For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[Italian Bills]

29 minutes ago, chongli said:

You lost me at:

 

"90% of us wish a change".

My bad. Sorry

[Avisan]

6 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

Your point about going 13-4 last year on a tougher schedule is a valid point. Which makes this year even more mindboggling. I feel sorry for Josh and the workload being placed at his feet. Seems the Bills are a bit too enamored with Josh making low key WRs in to somebody like he did with Mack Hollins

Newsflash: We're still on pace to go 13-4 or better

 

The "fire McDermott!" stuff after every loss is kind of amusing, this is two years in a row of Josh getting sloppy with the ball in his hands when Diggs is in the building.  Offense couldn't stop shooting itself in the foot, and I was pretty sure something exactly like the red zone interception was coming after the OPI call based on Allen's body language.

 

3x turnovers is tough to overcome without great play outside of them, and we were strictly okay.  Maye's plays were mostly made off-script, which means the script was working.  Tre can't quite keep up anymore and we kept getting burned by it.  Tough to blame coaching when our biggest struggles came from player deficiencies.

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I put the statistics in another thread and wont do it here but McDermotts defenses have given up 1 more point on average in the playoffs than Belichick's have all time.    Brady takes his team down the field and wins the AFC championship last year because he recognizes the blitz pre snap.   The same fricking blitz mind you Josh didnt recognize again last night.    The Patriots didnt win championships because Belichick is a genius, the Patriots won championships because they had the best at all time under center.   

 

The Bills defense in the playoffs seems to never come up with a big stop in a key moment. The Pats defense with Bill did. The INT at the goal line in the Super Bowl vs Seattle. Shutting the Falcons out after they built a huge lead which allowed Brady to bring them back. It was a combination of Brady and the Pats defense that was leading the way to the Super Bowl wins. Until McDermott finally wins one and I am starting to have doubts that he will then he will be known for his playoff failures highlighted by 13 seconds and not the winning regular seasons. The media both local and national are pointing that out more and more as the years go by.

[bmur66]

6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I am. We’re witnessing his last season as OC. He’ll either have McD’s team or some other team as HC. Why not us?

What do you see that makes you think he is Head Coach material? I've never even seen him standing on the sidelines. I don't see much innovation or anything special other than no. 17 taking over the game at times.

[Gregg]

It could be worse. Look at how the Eagles lost their first game yesterday blowing a big lead in the 2nd half.

[Johnnycage46]

5 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Josh has never been better at QB since he became OC and that is with a WR corp that has been meh majority of the time. I would rather he run the ship and he have stability for the offense like KC then what we have now.

It is a conference loss and division loss. The team in KC wins these games especially at home none the less. Again since 2019 it has been the same story so why expect anything different because they will lose other games also. This was a needed win to buffer for the future which they pissed away again. 

 

This is what people seems to not realize. Nobody (nobody who is being honest with themselves) expected the Bills to go undefeated. But, to get the 1 seed, we likely need to get to minimum 13 wins, if not 14. Losing a game early in the season, at home, to a team you "should beat" is the problem. We have other tougher games to play still.

[corta765]

5 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Wasn’t a great game by Joe Brady by any means and Babich/McD has a lot to answer for as well, but let’s be real. Patriots never would’ve won without heavy assistance from the refs. Every time the Bills sniffed the red zone there was a holding call or phantom offensive PI. Patriots had 0 flags going into the 3rd quarter. Constantly going from 2nd and 2 to 2nd and 12 is hard to overcome. That’s why 1st down plays are so important to get those 4-5 yard runs that Cook has been excellent at. 

The penalties finished relatively even with a ton for each side, blaming refs is cheap even if they sucked. In the end don't turn the ball over 3 times, have a defense not allowed back to back TD drives right after your offense does and you probably win.

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, Gregg said:

It could be worse. Look at how the Eagles lost their first game yesterday blowing a big lead in the 2nd half.

 

True, they also just won the Super Bowl last year and another one in 2017. So, I would imagine their fans, while pissed they lost, can at least be happy about that.

[corta765]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

This is what people seems to not realize. Nobody (nobody who is being honest with themselves) expected the Bills to go undefeated. But, to get the 1 seed, we likely need to get to minimum 13 wins, if not 14. Losing a game early in the season, at home, to a team you "should beat" is the problem. We have other tougher games to play still.

Exactly.

Margins are razor thin. A loss to Atlanta is not nearly as impactful as one to the Pats who is conference and in division. I actually figured we would lose later in NE as that is tough, to blow it at home is inexcusable and just a repeat of the same old sh*t.

[BillzFreak]

3 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Josh has never been better at QB since he became OC and that is with a WR corp that has been meh majority of the time. I would rather he run the ship and he have stability for the offense like KC then what we have now.

It is a conference loss and division loss. The team in KC wins these games especially at home none the less. Again since 2019 it has been the same story so why expect anything different because they will lose other games also. This was a needed win to buffer for the future which they pissed away again. 

I understand what you're saying because we have seen it so many times. But my whole point is we have no idea how things will shake out at the end. KC could go out and lose to the jags today. This loss sucks because we never want to give a division rival hope I get it, but there's allot of football left. There is going to be flukey losses for teams and injuries. I feel the frustration myself but know there's so much more that's going to happen by the end of this season. 

[uticaclub]

It’s only year 9 of the process, have some patience 

[Gregg]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

True, they also just won the Super Bowl last year and another one in 2017. So, I would imagine their fans, while pissed they lost, can at least be happy about that.

 

Good point. I would welcome a change at HC if the Bills fall short again in the playoffs. But since I am not Terry Pegula my opinion means nothing. 

[corta765]

Just now, BillzFreak said:

I understand what you're saying because we have seen it so many times. But my whole point is we have no idea how things will shake out at the end. KC could go out and lose to the jags today. This loss sucks because we never want to give a division rival hope I get it, but there's allot of football left. There is going to be flukey losses for teams and injuries. I feel the frustration myself but know there's so much more that's going to happen by the end of this season. 

And my point is after 7 seasons plus there is no reason to expect anything different when the result again is the same. They have poured god knows how much into a defense which at best is opportunistic vs bad to average teams and sucks regularly vs good teams or QBs that can move.

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, corta765 said:

And my point is after 7 seasons plus there is no reason to expect anything different when the result again is the same. They have poured god knows how much into a defense which at best is opportunistic vs bad to average teams and sucks regularly vs good teams or QBs that can move.

 

I still don't understand how professional NFL front office folks, can't accidentally hit on some defensive picks. They just seem so awful at it.

[Southern McButterpants]

Funny how everyone is quick to fire McD, but no one holds Bean accountable for the lack of talent on the defense. NOTHING has paid off on the defense (except maybe Cole Bishop). Getting tired of the D being crap, despite all of the investments.

[corta765]

1 minute ago, Southern McButterpants said:

Funny how everyone is quick to fire McD, but no one holds Bean accountable for the lack of talent on the defense. NOTHING has paid off on the defense (except maybe Cole Bishop). Getting tired of the D being crap, despite all of the investments.

That is a different discussion I am open to, but that is after the season. McD now would be a start.

[Sweats]

4 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

It’s only year 9 of the process, have some patience 

 

 

 

 

I hear that year 10 is where we really start seeing results........we lie in wait for 9 years where no one suspects anything and then year 10 is where it all happens.

 

Wait and see.......next year's OUR year.

[James Can Cook]

lol everyone saying McVay. Didn’t they just lose at home against a team of backups? A game they should have won. Sounds familiar.

[MJS]

24 minutes ago, corta765 said:

This team and coach has nothing to say otherwise that they won't fail like every other year. At some point when the same result is the same result you throw your hands up and say enough. They are wasting the most talented QB they will ever have in my lifetime so it would be nice for someone to show a damn pulse in the org.

Come on. Josh Allen was just as much a part of the problem as anyone else in that game.

[thenorthremembers]

12 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

The Bills defense in the playoffs seems to never come up with a big stop in a key moment. The Pats defense with Bill did. The INT at the goal line in the Super Bowl vs Seattle. Shutting the Falcons out after they built a huge lead which allowed Brady to bring them back. It was a combination of Brady and the Pats defense that was leading the way to the Super Bowl wins. Until McDermott finally wins one and I am starting to have doubts that he will then he will be known for his playoff failures highlighted by 13 seconds and not the winning regular seasons. The media both local and national are pointing that out more and more as the years go by.

 

The Bills offense had the ball to win the game last year in the AFC Championship game.    Josh didnt recognize a blitz and lost the game.   The year before that Bass misses a field goal to tie the game.  The year before that the offense scored 10 points to lose to the Bengals.   People point to McDermott because he is easier to hate than Allen.    Two of three years they've been in the game to win it.   What more do you want than to have your franchise QB with the ball in the 4th quarter to win a game?

Edited 1 hour ago by thenorthremembers