colin Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 hours ago, chris heff said: No I’m not, I’m saying that the using the Ebonics pronunciation of racist to deny racism is at the very least ironic. To deny that racism exists is like denying any issue, for example denying a health issue, it isn’t going away. To claim racism is always the definitive argument from any black person is a generalization. History demonstrates that racism is often a valid argument when it comes to discrimination. That discrimination can then manifest itself in many different ways. Since this is Bills football site, I’d like to relate a couple of things. When I was in high school some friends and I went to a Bills game at the Rockpile., after the game we were walking to Delaware Avenue to catch a bus. A few black children were playing on the sidewalk, a car with two white couples leaving the game purposely drove a high speed into a slushy puddle and soaked the kids. They wouldn’t have done that had the children been white. Cookie Gilchrist boycotted the AFL All Star game in New Orleans in 1965 because of segregation. He was inexplicably traded that same year to Denver. why do you think that was? The Bills Drafted James Harris in 1969, he became just the second black QB to start a game in the NFL, the first being Marlon Briscoe. Briscoe was by far the best QB on Denver’s roster in 1968. When told he would no longer be the QB he forced a trade to Buffalo where he agreed to play WR. Do you think Briscoe may have had a point that he had been discriminated against? those events happened closer to the dropping of the atom bomb by the us on japan than shadeur's birth. 1
Augie Posted October 1 Posted October 1 15 minutes ago, HOUSE said: You are very lucky to have your mother at this age. If she has a lot of money I will gladly take her out..🤪 Indeed! She has enough…..for you. 1
chris heff Posted October 1 Posted October 1 5 minutes ago, colin said: those events happened closer to the dropping of the atom bomb by the us on japan than shadeur's birth. “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it”. If you don’t think that those events are relevant today, go back and read any thread on this site pertaining to Lamar Jackson.
MJS Posted October 1 Posted October 1 41 minutes ago, chris heff said: Not you or me, go back and read the original post I responded to. Nobody is
gobills404 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 On 9/30/2025 at 2:21 PM, nuklz2594 said: If Shaddeur was white...non story You’re right. The attention Shedeur gets in the media has nothing to do with his dad being famous or the way he acts. It’s because he’s the first black QB in NFL history and we all hate him for it. 1
chris heff Posted October 1 Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, gobills404 said: You’re right. The attention Shedeur gets in the media has nothing to do with his dad being famous or the way he acts. It’s because he’s the first black QB in NFL history and we all hate him for it. You forgot the hype leading up to the draft. All that aside, why is Rex getting so much slack? He is one of the biggest blowhards ever. Speaking of overrated.
boyst Posted October 1 Posted October 1 6 hours ago, chris heff said: No I’m not, I’m saying that the using the Ebonics pronunciation of racist to deny racism is at the very least ironic. To deny that racism exists is like denying any issue, for example denying a health issue, it isn’t going away. To claim racism is always the definitive argument from any black person is a generalization. History demonstrates that racism is often a valid argument when it comes to discrimination. That discrimination can then manifest itself in many different ways. Since this is Bills football site, I’d like to relate a couple of things. When I was in high school some friends and I went to a Bills game at the Rockpile., after the game we were walking to Delaware Avenue to catch a bus. A few black children were playing on the sidewalk, a car with two white couples leaving the game purposely drove a high speed into a slushy puddle and soaked the kids. They wouldn’t have done that had the children been white. Cookie Gilchrist boycotted the AFL All Star game in New Orleans in 1965 because of segregation. He was inexplicably traded that same year to Denver. why do you think that was? The Bills Drafted James Harris in 1969, he became just the second black QB to start a game in the NFL, the first being Marlon Briscoe. Briscoe was by far the best QB on Denver’s roster in 1968. When told he would no longer be the QB he forced a trade to Buffalo where he agreed to play WR. Do you think Briscoe may have had a point that he had been discriminated against? Sir this is a Wendy's. And it's 2025. 3
chris heff Posted October 1 Posted October 1 9 minutes ago, boyst said: Sir this is a Wendy's. And it's 2025. And yet things never change. 1
cle23 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 10 minutes ago, chris heff said: And yet things never change. The NFL is now a majority black players. The time you describe had a huge majority of white players. Black players make up around 60% of the NFL while making up around 15% of the US population. Times have changed drastically. 1
boyst Posted October 1 Posted October 1 15 minutes ago, chris heff said: And yet things never change. Yeah, I know what you mean. I went outside after work and the whole neighborhood was in their smoking jackets smoking while getting ready for the klan meeting and bopping out to the latest Oak Ridge Boys tune.
chris heff Posted October 2 Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, cle23 said: The NFL is now a majority black players. The time you describe had a huge majority of white players. Black players make up around 60% of the NFL while making up around 15% of the US population. Times have changed drastically. He can’t play quarterback in this league, doesn’t have the aptitude, he needs to change positions, become a wide receiver. Who am I talking about? Marlon Briscoe or Lamar Jackson?
Simon Posted October 2 Posted October 2 10 minutes ago, boyst said: Yeah, I know what you mean. I went outside after work and the whole neighborhood was in their smoking jackets smoking while getting ready for the klan meeting and bopping out to the latest Oak Ridge Boys tune. Well, North Carolina is a Cigarette State 2
boyst Posted October 2 Posted October 2 17 minutes ago, chris heff said: He can’t play quarterback in this league, doesn’t have the aptitude, he needs to change positions, become a wide receiver. Who am I talking about? Marlon Briscoe or Lamar Jackson? Ryan leaf? Tim Tebow? Shane Falco? 1
chris heff Posted Thursday at 12:25 AM Posted Thursday at 12:25 AM 5 minutes ago, boyst said: Ryan leaf? Tim Tebow? Shane Falco? “Sir this is Wendy’s, and it’s 2025.”
boyst Posted Thursday at 12:27 AM Posted Thursday at 12:27 AM 1 minute ago, chris heff said: “Sir this is Wendy’s, and it’s 2025.” Lol ok boomer. I just gave you examples of qbs who had harsh criticism coming out. Tebow especially. He was so black.
stevestojan Posted Thursday at 12:38 AM Posted Thursday at 12:38 AM A QB’s mom embarrassingly tweets about Rex Ryan and only four pages in, we’re talking about the Klan and smoking jackets. Never change, TBD. Never change.
chris heff Posted Thursday at 12:40 AM Posted Thursday at 12:40 AM 7 minutes ago, boyst said: Lol ok boomer. I just gave you examples of qbs who had harsh criticism coming out. Tebow especially. He was so black. Leaf, Falco and Tebow were bad quarterbacks and should have changed positions. Briscoe, after his one season as a quarterback, should have been given a chance and are you really comparing Leaf, Falco and Tebow to Jackson?
Simon Posted Thursday at 12:54 AM Posted Thursday at 12:54 AM 15 minutes ago, stevestojan said: A QB’s mom embarrassingly tweets about Rex Ryan and only four pages in, we’re talking about the Klan and smoking jackets Hey, I'm smokin' in any jacket... 2
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