BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 9 minutes ago, teef said: so harvard is ok now? interesting. i'm always for looking into if there's any real correlation or not, but i'm going to go with the recommendations the academy of obstretrics , academy of peds, etc who haven't backed this at all. it it worth looking into? sure. do i think it's anything at all other than confusing some people? yup. You asked if there was anything new. I showed you what is very new. And then you responded with snark. Refreshing. Was Harvard, Stanford and Oxford ok when this came out? https://gbdeclaration.org/ The answer is no. Why? Politics. As far as those particular medical associations go and their recommendations. I'd be quite skeptical on their claims of "following the science" only. Heavily politicized orgs. 1 1 1
pennstate10 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) 57 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: From August 20, 2025. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/ Published in journal form August 14th. https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0 I’m taking a stab in the dark and guessing that you haven’t read either of those links. Evidence for a link is very weak. Moreover, look at the conflict of interest statement. The dean of Harvard public health declared a conflict because he’d served as an expert witness testifying Tylenol was bad. What is the reaction of non partisan observers around the globe? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx2rk10ep0o Summary: Trump has no medical training whatsoever, and his off the cuff remarks are a clear danger to public health. Edited September 23 by pennstate10 Clarified posts after merged 1 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Where the smart money is right now https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tylenol-maker-kenvue-shares-bounce-080043547.html
Pokebball Posted September 23 Posted September 23 18 hours ago, Homelander said: You're going to take medical advice from this guy? You think he wrote what he's reading from?
BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: I’m taking a stab in the dark and guessing that you haven’t read either of those links. Evidence for a link is very weak. I'm guessing you take a lot of stabs in the dark that are dead wrong. They published their results showing an association. They said more study is needed. Science. Crazy! 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Moreover, look at the conflict of interest statement. The dean of Harvard public health declared a conflict because he’d served as an expert witness testifying Tylenol was bad. 😂 So his scientific research has informed him that acetaminophen can be harmful in certain doses and patient populations, he then testified as such as an expert witness, and then disclosed in a research paper that he did so. The horror of transparency!
BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Let me link you to a bunch of non partisan observers. See look here, the BBC says so! 😂 Btw I've never defended Trump or his significant lack of scientific acumen. But just look at the TDS patients swoop in anyway.
pennstate10 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm guessing you take a lot of stabs in the dark that are dead wrong. They published their results showing an association. They said more study is needed. Science. Crazy! 😂 So his scientific research has informed him that acetaminophen can be harmful in certain doses and patient populations, he then testified as such as an expert witness, and then disclosed in a research paper that he did so. The horror of transparency! So you’ve read the article eh? What was their major criticism of the two Ahlqvist papers, which were the largest studies, and showed either no or minimal Tylenol effect? Why did they highlight the Baker 2020 study when it didn’t meet their stated criteria of >500 patients? what are the clear limitations of using cord blood or meconium Tylenol concentrations as measures of Tylenol use?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Let me link you to a bunch of non partisan observers. See look here, the BBC says so! 😂 Btw I've never defended Trump or his significant lack of scientific acumen. But just look at the TDS patients swoop in anyway. you defend trump almost every post and disseminate his propaganda. just love the superman cartoons. keep it up minion.
BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Just now, pennstate10 said: So you’ve read the article eh? What was their major criticism of the two Ahlqvist papers, which were the largest studies, and showed either no or minimal Tylenol effect? Why did they highlight the Baker 2020 study when it didn’t meet their stated criteria of >500 patients? what are the clear limitations of using cord blood or meconium Tylenol concentrations as measures of Tylenol use? I'm not here to do your homework Sue. Questions: How many research papers have you published? What journals? Why is disclosing conflicts of interest bad?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: So you’ve read the article eh? What was their major criticism of the two Ahlqvist papers, which were the largest studies, and showed either no or minimal Tylenol effect? Why did they highlight the Baker 2020 study when it didn’t meet their stated criteria of >500 patients? what are the clear limitations of using cord blood or meconium Tylenol concentrations as measures of Tylenol use? He won't care about being called out. He's shameless, just like his hero. Just now, BillsFanNC said: I'm not here to do your homework Sue. Questions: How many research papers have you published? What journals? Why is disclosing conflicts of interest bad? so why aren't you at work doing science? The world needs you😂 3
The Frankish Reich Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: He won't care about being called out. He's shameless, just like his hero. so why aren't you at work doing science? The world needs you😂 You do know that he has taken his talents to the burgeoning field of Medical Research Supply Sales and Maintenance? 1
Doc Brown Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, teef said: my question is why now? is there new evidence that shows there is a possible link? it's been the standard for pregnant women for 20 years so what's changed? They appointed RFK Jr. as HHS. I'm sure he means well but my god you've got to give us convincing data before making an announcement like that. 3
The Frankish Reich Posted September 23 Posted September 23 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They appointed RFK Jr. as HHS. I'm sure he means well but my god you've got to give us convincing data before making an announcement like that. I do believe that Barron is on the spectrum, and that is why Trump is obsessed with autism. No man wants to blame his old sperm. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7396152/ 1
Wacka Posted September 23 Posted September 23 I think that the moms of several of the most ignored people on PPP were popping tylenol like M&Ms when the posters were "developing". It's a warning like those on all of the meds you take and only to pregnant women. I can't take NSAIDS because of my kidney. I was told to take only tylenol even before my transplant. I look at ay tropical type drink to be sure it doesn't have grapefruit in it. Grapefruit will inactivate my anti-rejection meds. The prostate med I take says that women of child bearing age should not handle it. 3
The Frankish Reich Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, Wacka said: I think that the moms of several of the most ignored people on PPP were popping tylenol like M&Ms when the posters were "developing". It's a warning like those on all of the meds you take and only to pregnant women. I can't take NSAIDS because of my kidney. I was told to take only tylenol even before my transplant. I look at ay tropical type drink to be sure it doesn't have grapefruit in it. Grapefruit will inactivate my anti-rejection meds. The prostate med I take says that women of child bearing age should not handle it. So you've hit on the problem here. I imagine the recommendation that came to Trump/RFK probably was something like this: a warning label. Advice to seek guidance from your doctor if you are pregnant before taking Tylenol. You'd want someone to at least ballpark the relative risks of, say, letting a 102 degree fever resolve on its own vs. taking Tylenol to bring it down right away. But Trump: tough it out, ladies! Don't take Tylenol. Just don't take it. 1
nedboy7 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 18 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You can't form coherent thoughts now, let alone when your 80. Sheesh. Stop insulting the prezodunt bra. 6 minutes ago, Wacka said: I think that the moms of several of the most ignored people on PPP were popping tylenol like M&Ms when the posters were "developing". It's a warning like those on all of the meds you take and only to pregnant women. I can't take NSAIDS because of my kidney. I was told to take only tylenol even before my transplant. I look at ay tropical type drink to be sure it doesn't have grapefruit in it. Grapefruit will inactivate my anti-rejection meds. The prostate med I take says that women of child bearing age should not handle it. You definitely sound like you’re qualified to be a top lever bureaucrat in the Trump administration. The stuff that comes out is brilliant. 1
teef Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: You asked if there was anything new. I showed you what is very new. And then you responded with snark. Refreshing. Was Harvard, Stanford and Oxford ok when this came out? https://gbdeclaration.org/ The answer is no. Why? Politics. As far as those particular medical associations go and their recommendations. I'd be quite skeptical on their claims of "following the science" only. Heavily politicized orgs. snark? i was being serious. a few months ago a certain group was blasting anything that came out of harvard, and now that same school should cause us to be concerned. i'm always concerned about new health info, so if it needs to be looked at so be it. that being said...nothing is new. physicians across all specialties are blasting the news as having no real foundation. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 40 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: You do know that he has taken his talents to the burgeoning field of Medical Research Supply Sales and Maintenance? i thought he moved on to paid maga shill. 31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I do believe that Barron is on the spectrum, and that is why Trump is obsessed with autism. No man wants to blame his old sperm. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7396152/ I'm thinking Eric for sure. He musta been one flk (funny looking kid). 1
BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 14 minutes ago, teef said: snark? i was being serious. a few months ago a certain group was blasting anything that came out of harvard, and now that same school should cause us to be concerned. i'm always concerned about new health info, so if it needs to be looked at so be it. that being said...nothing is new. physicians across all specialties are blasting the news as having no real foundation. Well it wasn't anything and everything coming out of Harvard. It was calling out blatantly antisemitic policies and not giving them access to government funding because of it. 1
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