A Different Vibe from McDermott

[T master]

11 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

I know you don't get much from McDermott, the prototypical coach speaking guy. But somehow I detect a different tone starting this year's first Wednesday presser. Notice how he repeated the theme of looking to get better as the season goes along. I believe he said it 4 times in this single presser. Not much of the type he typically says like "in order to win, you have to have the fundamentals" blah blah. You can take it two ways. For those looking for positives, you can say McDermott matured in that it really does not matter how you start, it's how you finish, as in playing your best going into the playoff and having injury stuff lining up for you. For those looking for negatives, you may say McDermott is already preparing us for a loss coming Sunday because he's focusing on the big picture of finding the right guys and preparing the young guys, especially rookies that we have to count on, for later in the playoff.

 

 

 

What the yah hoo hater fans that want instant gratification that would complain about something even when this team wins a SB will never understand is a 7 year HCing career you are still learning things each and every year but all of that be damned if you are the HC of the Buffalo Bills !!

 

No matter if you've taken the team from the dregs of the league to have a winning team every year makes no difference to the haters . Like the guy that was the second one here to post after your initial post it's apparent he is one of those that I speak of and I cannot wait to say to all the haters here when he leads this team to a SB victory that they can go P**S up a rope !! 

 

But like I said no matter the out come win or lose those folks won't give him any credit because that's just the way those folks are no matter what good comes from any situation they will follow their own personal narrative of doom and gloom no matter the leader of the team .

 

But as long as he continues to do what he has been doing I'm sticking by him he's a Bills DNA guy through and through !! GO BILLS !!!

Edited September 4 by T master

[Gregg]

5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

This is highly encouraging, but hopefully for the right reasons. As I've been saying for years, the regular season is an extension of the pre-season for us. I really don't care about the individual outcome of a given game during the regular season anymore. As long as you get 10+ wins, which I expect they will based on Josh alone, I'm all good.

What matters to me is that I see them building on something throughout the season, evolving in terms of playbook, technique and execution. The elite teams aren't showing you the same gameplan in the playoffs that they had in September. They look like a baseball team in game 7 of the world series, pulling out all kinds of tricks and playing their best ball. Make Bosa inactive for the first 10 games - seriously. I know they won't, but they should. I don't need him stacking stats in September. I need him for 5-10 critical snaps in January.

Use this season as a way to accelerate the growth of our young players, because if we have any hope of taking a next step this year, it's because 2-3 young players have blossomed into all-pro level players.

 

10 wins won't get them the #1 seed. They probably will need 12 or 13 for that. I think the only way this team has a shot at getting to the Super Bowl is if all their playoff games are played in OP and they get WC weekend off. I don't want a playoff game at Arrowhead or Baltimore. The chances the Bills win there in the playoffs are not good. The Bills have the best homefield advantage in the NFL, they need to take advantage of that come playoff time.

[uticaclub]

15 minutes ago, T master said:

What the yah hoo hater fans that want instant gratification that would complain about something even when this team wins a SB will never understand is a 7 year HCing career you are still learning things each and every year but all of that be damned if you are the HC of the Buffalo Bills !!

 

No matter if you've taken the team from the dregs of the league to have a winning team every year makes no difference to the haters . Like the guy that was the second one here to post after your initial post it's apparent he is one of those that I speak of and I cannot wait to say to all the haters here when he leads this team to a SB victory that they can go P**S up a rope !! 

 

But like I said no matter the out come win or lose those folks won't give him any credit because that's just the way those folks are no matter what good comes from any situation they will follow their own personal narrative of doom and gloom no matter the leader of the team .

 

But as long as he continues to do what he has been doing I'm sticking by him he's a Bills DNA guy through and through !! GO BILLS !!!

People have given McDermott a lot of credit over the years, but its ***** or get off the pot time.

[boyst]

I always will wonder if we had oneore year of hardass Marrone to clean the place up then when he would ultimately fall short in the next year or two get us the coach that got us over the hump instead of rex Ryan. 

[LarryMadman]

Instant gratification? Lol..... how long should we wait? Allen is pushing 30 and will have been our QB for 8 years this year and he is the best performing QB of all time in the playoffs and its not even close, to have that and still fail, nah get out of here, Sean can go. Stick your instant gratification where the sun dont shine. McDermott has failed Josh time and again and its time to not fail, if he fails again this year sean needs to get out!

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, LarryMadman said:

Instant gratification? Lol..... how long should we wait? Allen is pushing 30 and will have been our QB for 8 years this year and he is the best performing QB of all time in the playoffs and its not even close, to have that and still fail, nah get out of here, Sean can go. Stick your instant gratification where the sun dont shine. McDermott has failed Josh time and again and its time to not fail, if he fails again this year sean needs to get out!

 

What about Beane? The WR's and TE's are average. The OL is solid but from the skill positions its Allen and Cook who are the top playmakers. Shakir is a good WR and would make an excellent #3 and a good #2 but he shouldn't be the Bills #1 WR. We all know about the problems with the defense. Beane spent all offseason trying to strengthen this side of the ball. McDermott deserves his share of the blame for the playoff failures, but Beane is the GM, and he put this roster together. The Bills have an elite level QB with a good but not great roster. 

[Buffalo Boy]

11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

What about Beane? The WR's and TE's are average. The OL is solid but from the skill positions its Allen and Cook who are the top playmakers. Shakir is a good WR and would make an excellent #3 and a good #2 but he shouldn't be the Bills #1 WR. We all know about the problems with the defense. Beane spent all offseason trying to strengthen this side of the ball. McDermott deserves his share of the blame for the playoff failures, but Beane is the GM, and he put this roster together. The Bills have an elite level QB with a good but not great roster. 

Which is the age old question. Is Beane in control or is McBeane in control?

 

[uticaclub]

6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

This is highly encouraging, but hopefully for the right reasons. As I've been saying for years, the regular season is an extension of the pre-season for us. I really don't care about the individual outcome of a given game during the regular season anymore. As long as you get 10+ wins, which I expect they will based on Josh alone, I'm all good.

What matters to me is that I see them building on something throughout the season, evolving in terms of playbook, technique and execution. The elite teams aren't showing you the same gameplan in the playoffs that they had in September. They look like a baseball team in game 7 of the world series, pulling out all kinds of tricks and playing their best ball. Make Bosa inactive for the first 10 games - seriously. I know they won't, but they should. I don't need him stacking stats in September. I need him for 5-10 critical snaps in January.

Use this season as a way to accelerate the growth of our young players, because if we have any hope of taking a next step this year, it's because 2-3 young players have blossomed into all-pro level players.

We still need to force passing down for Bosa to see the field. Miller didn’t see the field in the AFCCG because it was always 3rd & short. No amount of pass rush will fix a terrible secondary

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Which is the age old question. Is Beane in control or is McBeane in control?

 

 

Terry Pegula said when they were hired that both men have equal power and report to him. Neither one of them is the boss of the other.

[twoandfourteen]

1 hour ago, T master said:

What the yah hoo hater fans that want instant gratification that would complain about something even when this team wins a SB will never understand is a 7 year HCing career you are still learning things each and every year but all of that be damned if you are the HC of the Buffalo Bills !!

 

No matter if you've taken the team from the dregs of the league to have a winning team every year makes no difference to the haters . Like the guy that was the second one here to post after your initial post it's apparent he is one of those that I speak of and I cannot wait to say to all the haters here when he leads this team to a SB victory that they can go P**S up a rope !! 

 

But like I said no matter the out come win or lose those folks won't give him any credit because that's just the way those folks are no matter what good comes from any situation they will follow their own personal narrative of doom and gloom no matter the leader of the team .

 

But as long as he continues to do what he has been doing I'm sticking by him he's a Bills DNA guy through and through !! GO BILLS !!!

“Instant gratification”?

 

McDermott has had seven seasons with arguably the best QB in NFL history and has not even managed a Super Bowl appearance. 

 

Allen turns 30 in May. He has three — maybe four, if he doesn’t get hurt — years left in his prime before a rapid decline sets in. 

 

How much longer are you going to give McDermott and Beane to keep “learning things”?

 

I don’t even care if they win the ring or not right now, but they HAVE to get to the Super Bowl this year — otherwise Terry needs to throw both of them overboard. 

[JP51]

10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

So did the Bucs with Gruden.

 

 

11 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Colts went to Super Bowl with Caldwell right after Dungy left….

and the cowboys with Switzer

[Gunner]

10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

So did the Bucs with Gruden.

Gruden took Dungy's Bucs to a SB win but his attitude destroyed the team shortly afterwards. Dungy's Bucs were a tight knit group, much like McD's Bills.

[PoundingDog]

13 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

McDermott has had seven seasons with arguably the best QB in NFL history

Mmmm I don't know about that statement. There is a QB whose last name rhymes with homes is pretty good. 

 

Looking back at Brady's time in NFL, he kind of blocked a lot of "arguably the best QB' from getting to the superbowl. The good thing is I see Allen is continuously improving his game, partly because he has a target in front of him. Last year you see a noticeable improvement. Listening to his interview before the Ravens game, he sounded much more mature (not going for home run, taking short completions to start games). So sounded like he himself knew he was NOT the greatest QB in NFL history in the past few years.

 

 

[BarleyNY]

12 hours ago, QB Bills said:

We get at least one of these threads every season.

 

He's the same guy he's always been and always will be. The Bills will have to win the super bowl in spite of him, not because of him.

Let’s hope. 

[foreboding]

12 hours ago, QB Bills said:

We get at least one of these threads every season.

 

He's the same guy he's always been and always will be. The Bills will have to win the super bowl in spite of him, not because of him.

We have the team and the culture we have, because of him. Remember the decades of futility and revolving doors of coaches. Sure, he has lost to the Chiefs, with depleted defenses and the same as almost every other team in the NFL.

[uticaclub]

17 minutes ago, Gunner said:

Gruden took Dungy's Bucs to a SB win but his attitude destroyed the team shortly afterwards. Dungy's Bucs were a tight knit group, much like McD's Bills.

Was Dungy the GM that build that team? Who gives a ***** if it fell apart after they won the Super Bowl? Did Gruden’s attitude destroy the team or is it impossible to keep an entire defensive unit together? 

[Don Otreply]

12 hours ago, H2o said:

McDermott knows the NFEL has already scripted an opening week loss to the Ravens, who will avenge their Playoff defeat, as the mighty Lamar Jackson will begin his campaign towards a 3rd MVP and first SB ring. 

Damn that Tom Grossi script writer guy, he has it in for us…, 

[twoandfourteen]

28 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

Mmmm I don't know about that statement. There is a QB whose last name rhymes with homes is pretty good. 

 

Looking back at Brady's time in NFL, he kind of blocked a lot of "arguably the best QB' from getting to the superbowl. The good thing is I see Allen is continuously improving his game, partly because he has a target in front of him. Last year you see a noticeable improvement. Listening to his interview before the Ravens game, he sounded much more mature (not going for home run, taking short completions to start games). So sounded like he himself knew he was NOT the greatest QB in NFL history in the past few years.

 

 

 

Notice, I said “arguably”. Josh is definitely in the conversation and a legitimate case could be made for it. 

 

Swap Allen and Mahomes — give 17 Andy Reid, a competent GM, and elite receiving options and Allen would have 3-4 rings as well. 

 

Allen can do everything Mahomes can do. Mahomes cannot do everything Allen can do. 

[Augie]

13 hours ago, QB Bills said:

We get at least one of these threads every season.

 

He's the same guy he's always been and always will be. The Bills will have to win the super bowl in spite of him, not because of him.

 

If you don’t believe that people can learn and grow in life and in their careers, you are missing some important stuff in life. Josh is better than he was 5-7 years ago, why can’t the same be true of others? I mean, other than your frustration blinding you? 

[twoandfourteen]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

If you don’t believe that people can learn and grow in life and in their careers, you are missing some important stuff in life. Josh is better than he was 5-7 years ago, why can’t the same be true of others? I mean, other than your frustration blinding you? 

 

Because no Head Coach/QB pairing has ever made it to a Super Bowl after not doing it in the first five seasons. 

 

History says that if it hasn’t happened by now, it’s never going to happen with these two together.