A Different Vibe from McDermott

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 9/3/2025 at 9:31 PM, H2o said:

McDermott knows the NFEL has already scripted an opening week loss to the Ravens, who will avenge their Playoff defeat, as the mighty Lamar Jackson will begin his campaign towards a 3rd MVP and first SB ring. 

😬 this is straight from Steven Spielberg

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 9/4/2025 at 8:40 AM, LarryMadman said:

Instant gratification? Lol..... how long should we wait? Allen is pushing 30 and will have been our QB for 8 years this year and he is the best performing QB of all time in the playoffs and its not even close, to have that and still fail, nah get out of here, Sean can go. Stick your instant gratification where the sun dont shine. McDermott has failed Josh time and again and its time to not fail, if he fails again this year sean needs to get out!

Allen’s had 5 prime years. Actually, he’s not even midway thru his prime yet either. He didn’t come out of the gate the MVP 40+ TD beast he is now. Took him a few years to acclimate, but we all saw the incredible flashes. My point is… 5 years is really not that much. You’d expect him to have one, but it’s not some insane fact that he doesn’t. A lot of people forget the LUCK aspect of a championship team. The ball hasn’t bounced our way at all. 

[twoandfourteen]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen’s had 5 prime years. Actually, he’s not even midway thru his prime yet either. He didn’t come out of the gate the MVP 40+ TD beast he is now. Took him a few years to acclimate, but we all saw the incredible flashes. My point is… 5 years is really not that much. You’d expect him to have one, but it’s not some insane fact that he doesn’t. A lot of people forget the LUCK aspect of a championship team. The ball hasn’t bounced our way at all. 

 

He turns 30 next May. 

 

The way that kid plays, he has two or three years (if he doesn’t get hurt) left in his “Superman” window. 

[LarryMadman]

3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen’s had 5 prime years. Actually, he’s not even midway thru his prime yet either. He didn’t come out of the gate the MVP 40+ TD beast he is now. Took him a few years to acclimate, but we all saw the incredible flashes. My point is… 5 years is really not that much. You’d expect him to have one, but it’s not some insane fact that he doesn’t. A lot of people forget the LUCK aspect of a championship team. The ball hasn’t bounced our way at all. 

Sounds like excuses to me and trying to justify McDermotts continued failings. 

[BananaB]

16 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen’s had 5 prime years. Actually, he’s not even midway thru his prime yet either. He didn’t come out of the gate the MVP 40+ TD beast he is now. Took him a few years to acclimate, but we all saw the incredible flashes. My point is… 5 years is really not that much. You’d expect him to have one, but it’s not some insane fact that he doesn’t. A lot of people forget the LUCK aspect of a championship team. The ball hasn’t bounced our way at all. 

Bounced our way,  Hahahahaha!!!! We took the lead with 13 seconds left and lost. Bills aren’t cursed, it has nothing to do with luck…. The D fold in big situations

[Rockinon]

On 9/4/2025 at 10:24 AM, twoandfourteen said:

 

Because no Head Coach/QB pairing has ever made it to a Super Bowl after not doing it in the first five seasons. 

 

History says that if it hasn’t happened by now, it’s never going to happen with these two together. 

History said what the Bills and Allen have all ready done, couldn't be done. But it happened. The number of records that Allen has shattered is amazing. In my opinion, the only real reason McD is getting so much flack is that the defense has slumped. This isn't necessarily on him though. He has a pretty long history of being a damn good defensive coach and has an ability to get good to great performance from average talent. The narrative that he doesn't have the leadership ability seems grossly over hyped.  These players love playing for their coach and that speaks volumes and IMHO is way more important than all of the hot takes I keep reading from armchair GMs.

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, Rockinon said:

History said what the Bills and Allen have all ready done, couldn't be done. But it happened. The number of records that Allen has shattered is amazing. In my opinion, the only real reason McD is getting so much flack is that the defense has slumped. This isn't necessarily on him though. He has a pretty long history of being a damn good defensive coach and has an ability to get good to great performance from average talent. The narrative that he doesn't have the leadership ability seems grossly over hyped.  These players love playing for their coach and that speaks volumes and IMHO is way more important than all of the hot takes I keep reading from armchair GMs.

In the end he won’t be remembered for how much his players love him, it will be if he’s one a Super Bowl or not. I have no problem with his leadership, I have a problem with the system he’s running on D that’s continues to let this team down in big moments and  big games. 

Edited September 6 by BananaB

[Rockinon]

8 minutes ago, BananaB said:

In the end he won’t be remembered for how much his players love him, it will be if he’s one a Super Bowl or not. I have no problem with his leadership, I have a problem with the system he’s running on D that’s continues to let this team down in big momyand big games. 

Well I hope he ends up with more than just one a Super Bowl but when his career ends he can say he won multiple.

 

I have no idea what "momyand" is.

Edited September 6 by Rockinon

[twoandfourteen]

1 hour ago, Rockinon said:

History said what the Bills and Allen have all ready done, couldn't be done. But it happened. The number of records that Allen has shattered is amazing. In my opinion, the only real reason McD is getting so much flack is that the defense has slumped. This isn't necessarily on him though. He has a pretty long history of being a damn good defensive coach and has an ability to get good to great performance from average talent. The narrative that he doesn't have the leadership ability seems grossly over hyped.  These players love playing for their coach and that speaks volumes and IMHO is way more important than all of the hot takes I keep reading from armchair GMs.

 

You can keep your “vibes”.

 

I’m after “Rings”. 

[Rockinon]

5 hours ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

You can keep your “vibes”.

 

I’m after “Rings”. 

You aren't going to get it with a different coach. Who exactly do you think is going to come in and do a better job? 

[DuckyBoys]

I'm more concerned that were still trying to win with the exact scheme on defense.  We've had Brady retool the offense to a run based ball control to cut down on turnovers and control time of possession On defense its still a small defense which relies on mistakes by the other team and pressure from the front 4.  We've spent the past 4 seasons constantly trying to find the players to make that happen and honestly the talent on defense is probably worse.  

 

Maybe a change at head coach or at least bring in a defensive coordinator and let him set the tone and not just by McDermotts patsy before Allen's body gives out  Or bring in a elite pass catcher

[boyst]

On 9/4/2025 at 10:26 AM, Buffalo Boy said:

13 seconds wasn’t on “ depleted defense” it was on the coach. And no other team has lost to them in the playoffs so egregiously and with such a QB performance 

People were saying last years eagles lost too many starters. The year before siriani was on his way out. Roseman kept loading up on defenders that weren't paying off and taking big risks.

 

We can keep saying we need to give Beane more time and McDermott isn't the problem. But, at some point these two need to get the job done after 8+ years.

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said:

I'm more concerned that were still trying to win with the exact scheme on defense.  We've had Brady retool the offense to a run based ball control to cut down on turnovers and control time of possession On defense its still a small defense which relies on mistakes by the other team and pressure from the front 4.  We've spent the past 4 seasons constantly trying to find the players to make that happen and honestly the talent on defense is probably worse.  

 

Maybe a change at head coach or at least bring in a defensive coordinator and let him set the tone and not just by McDermotts patsy before Allen's body gives out  Or bring in a elite pass catcher

Feels like we played a ton more man in the playoffs last year but I’m going from memory.  Really looked a lot different than bills chiefs games of playoffs past to my eye 

Edited September 7 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[LarryMadman]

13 hours ago, Rockinon said:

You aren't going to get it with a different coach. Who exactly do you think is going to come in and do a better job? 

Here we go with this stupid question again, right, because there is nobody out there better than Sean. Before any of these guys were coaches did anybody anywhere know how good or bad they would do? For that matter did anybody know how good Sean would be during the regular season and an absolute liability in the playoffs. Did anybody know how good Josh Allen was going to be or should we have just stuck with Tyrod and Nate? Enough with this dumb question already,but but but who you gonna find better! 

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Here we go with this stupid question again, right, because there is nobody out there better than Sean. Before any of these guys were coaches did anybody anywhere know how good or bad they would do? For that matter did anybody know how good Sean would be during the regular season and an absolute liability in the playoffs. Did anybody know how good Josh Allen was going to be or should we have just stuck with Tyrod and Nate? Enough with this dumb question already,but but but who you gonna find better! 

 

So, what’s your answer to the stupid question? The way you make fun of the question, it must be a great answer. Who is your guy? What is his name? What is he doing today? This will be awesome to learn! 

[Buffalo Boy]

38 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

So, what’s your answer to the stupid question? The way you make fun of the question, it must be a great answer. Who is your guy? What is his name? What is he doing today? This will be awesome to learn! 

And Again,

Vrabel

BB

Harbaugh

Johnson

Brady

 

Everytime the answer has been given, for years now, McD apologists cling to him like Rose on the piece of flotsam at the end of Titanic

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

And Again,

Vrabel

BB

Harbaugh

Johnson

Brady

 

Everytime the answer has been given, for years now, McD apologists cling to him like Rose on the piece of flotsam at the end of Titanic

 

I’m not impressed by your list or your thinking. Harbaugh is a maybe, but he wears out his welcome fairly quickly. BB is a joke, Vrabel might build culture, but we have that. What has he won as a HC? I don’t think taking the risk of rolling the dice on a guy who has never held the job of HC is a wise gamble. Hell, you have Brady on there and he’s only been a coordinator for one year. 

 

To be clear, I’m not a McD apologist. I’d fire him this morning if we had a better shot with someone else, but I don’t see that guy out there, just a bunch of maybes. I’m not blinded by hate and frustration. 

[FireChans]

Basically the only coach the team McD folks would hire is Andy Reid.

 

But, you know, if Andy Reid is willing to quit the Chiefs and go to the Bills, who knows if he would do that here?

 

Plus, he's old.

 

better to just stick with McD!

[DrDawkinstein]

37 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m not impressed by your list or your thinking. Harbaugh is a maybe, but he wears out his welcome fairly quickly. BB is a joke, Vrabel might build culture, but we have that. What has he won as a HC? I don’t think taking the risk of rolling the dice on a guy who has never held the job of HC is a wise gamble. Hell, you have Brady on there and he’s only been a coordinator for one year. 

 

To be clear, I’m not a McD apologist. I’d fire him this morning if we had a better shot with someone else, but I don’t see that guy out there, just a bunch of maybes. I’m not blinded by hate and frustration. 

 

Vrabel not only builds culture like McD, but also has what McD lacks. He is a Belichick disciple and knows the rule book forwards and backwards, and has beat BB at his own game using loop holes and angles to squeak out wins when his players need him most, and is great at in-game decisions. He lead a team with Ryan freaking Tannehill at QB to the #1 seed twice. Imagine what he could do with Josh Allen making it all that easier.

 

As far as rolling the dice on a first time HC... McD was never a HC before Buffalo either, and now you refuse to even consider getting rid of him.

 

My man, you are abslutely being a McD apologist. We've laid out a bunch of very good replacement candidates and you poke a single hole in each one and cling to it. I dont believe that you'd fire him if we had a better shot with someone else. That's just a convenient line since EVERYONE is a maybe.

 

McD isnt a maybe tho. He's proven he cant get it done. No blind hate or frustration here. Just calmly looking at the reality of recent history.

Edited September 7 by DrDawkinstein

[Augie]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Vrabel not only builds culture like McD, but also has what McD lacks. He is a Belichick disciple and knows the rule book forwards and backwards, and has beat BB at his own game using loop holes and angles to squeak out wins when his players need him most, and is great at in-game decisions. He lead a team with Ryan freaking Tannehill at QB to the #1 seed twice. Imagine what he could do with Josh Allen making it all that easier.

 

As far as rolling the dice on a first time HC... McD was never a HC before Buffalo either, and now you refuse to even consider getting rid of him.

 

How many rings does Vrabel have? I’m told that’s all that counts. (Don’t worry, it was rhetorical.) 

 

And we have paid the price breaking in a new HC already. People can and do grow in their jobs. That’s a real thing. I don’t see a point in starting over unless it’s a clear upgrade. None of those fit the bill for me, but then I don’t take it as personally and emotionally as some here.