Illegal Streaming Site Streameast Taken Down

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, Johnny Bravo said:

Which billionaire is “stealing” from you?

 

And by stealing, I don’t mean some new made up definition of stealing like charging more than you think you should pay.  Which billionaire is taking what is legally yours and giving you nothing in return?

 

Do you own stock in an NFL team or work for YouTube TV? You are on this crusade to prove that all these people illegally streaming an NFL product that the NFL chooses to make cost a lot and fragmented across many services are morally inferior to you and that people streaming NFL games illegally are a symptom of moral decline in society. It really isn't that deep nor symptomatic of anything larger other than this popular product has become much more inaccessible due to the fragmentation of media rights and the NFL's own choosing, so people use technology to pirate games. 

 

The argument that the cost of piracy gets passed down to those who pay for the service legally is very much disproven in this case. So you can't also say that this is something that gets passed down to regular consumers much like other instances of shoplifting. 

For many piracy is simply not because of an unwillingness to pay but rather convenience and simplicity. LeBron James whose own league gives him their version of League Pass for Free (and a man who is a billionaire) was seen during one of his sons high school games using Stream East to watch the end of a game during half time of his son's high school game. So there's clearly an issue with accessibility not only people just wanting a "free ride". 

 

It is not a societal issue that people don't really take any sort of moral issue with bootlegging NFL games despite the fact that it is technically stealing. In this case most people feel that it is a victimless crime (not in a literal sense) and that if the NFL cared about the issue enough they would probably have taken more money from ESPN to offer the product cheaper. If the NFL wants to try to take down streamers fine I don't have an issue with the NFL doing so. But don't make it out to be a bigger issue than it is because you are projecting something onto it that isn't there. 

[BVBILLS]

Anyone remember when all TV was free? Where are my rabiit ears? lol

[Psautcsk]

7 minutes ago, BVBILLS said:

Anyone remember when all TV was free? Where are my rabiit ears? lol

Do rabbit ears pick up over the hare broadcasts?

[Metal Man]

16 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

Do rabbit ears pick up over the hare broadcasts?

 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

My take:

 

There are no good options to pay for what I want and only what I want (Bills games) out of market. Could I pay for the full streaming package, sure. Could the owners pay for their stadiums fully with the revenue from their business operations, yes. Do they, no. I can't blame them, our elected representatives allow them to do that. It would certainly be the moral thing for the owners to do but they want to maximize profits. I take the same approach here, I'm just trying to maximize my profits and doing my fiduciary duty to myself.

[atomicpwrd]

21 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

And Im just saying Sunday Ticket is way overpriced and the NFL wants it that way.

I agree!

21 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The Premium is for NFL Sunday Ticket, the owners particularly Kraft want that to be something that costs a lot of money. Everything else they didn't give a ***** about. Spread it around nickel and dime consumers to make as many TV packages as possible. 

 

The NFL has made their product into 10 different consumer products (11 if you count NFL+ but that is truly an add on)

 

1- AFC Games Sunday Afternoons in market (CBS)

2- NFC Games Sunday Afternoons in market (FOX)

3- Sunday Night Football National Games (NBC)

4- Monday Night Football National Games (ABC/ESPN)

5- Thursday Night Football National Games (Amazon)

6- NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market (YouTube TV)

7- NFL Network Exclusive Games (NFLN)

8- Netflix Christmas Day Games (Netflix)

9- NFL Redzone (Various)

10- Peacock Exclusive game (Peacock)

That's insane just how fragmented this is.

Yep, I agree...its ridiculous.

[BullBuchanan]

4 hours ago, Johnny Bravo said:

Thats a very convenient definition of greed.   Such a horrible crime and one that, since you have neither power nor the ability to exploit, you can never be guilty of.  

It will always be some other guy who is being greedy, but never you-even when you choose to take or use a product without paying for it.

Convenient yet not untrue. The exploitation of power is the root of many ills.

Edited September 4 by BullBuchanan

[BillsVet]

11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I would actually like to know what kind of cost people would see as fair? If $522 is too expensive, how much lower do you think it would have to be for the large majority of illegal streamers to start paying for it? I'm genuinely curious.

 

My take is that almost no price drop would be enough to reduce the number of illegal streamers. Because once you've decided that you're entitled to the content for free, there's no reason to pay any amount of money for it as long as you have that free access.

 

Agree HD.  Much of this thread can be summarized as a debate between 2 types of people.  Those who reason through moral, ethical and legal considerations to these streams and those who are limited to:

 

I like football because it makes me happy.  What makes me happy is good.  I deserve good things.  Good things should not cost money.  Greedy people charge money for football.  Therefore I am entitled to free football because it is good, makes me happy, and bad people are bad.  

[BullBuchanan]

3 hours ago, Johnny Bravo said:

Which billionaire is “stealing” from you?

Every single one of them.

[Walking Tall]

Why is it the owners that are always labeled greedy?

 

How about the players? Someone has to pay those 55 million dollar a year salaries.

[BullBuchanan]

23 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

Why is it the owners that are always labeled greedy?

 

How about the players? Someone has to pay those 55 million dollar a year salaries.

Because the owners are the ones with all the power. It's an Employer-employee relationship.

[Dick_Cheney]

4 hours ago, Johnny Bravo said:

I want to steal your car.  You probably have a nicer home than I do so I feel justified.

 

tell me why I’m wrong.

 

Because I'm not a billionaire or a multinational corporation and apparently you missed the entire crux of my argument?

[BigDingus]

Well darn, I had no idea it even existed. Sounds more reliable than methstreams or whatever the heck I stumbled on a while back 😅

[BigDingus]

On 9/3/2025 at 10:19 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

 

LOL ok.  

 

Yeah I get that this is a prevailing view these days - theft from big companies is fine because they're greedy.  I don't agree that it's fine, nor do I agree that it's victimless, but again, I understand that it's a commonly-held core belief now.

 

It's a commonly held belief because it's true. But if your logic is correct, shutting down Streameast should result in huge price cuts, right? 

 

I mean over 100 million people were pirating streams off this website each month, so now these giant corporations will make so much more money & pass that on to consumers!

 

You know, just like Netflix lowered prices after they cracked down on password sharing! 

 

Wait, I'm just finding out that Netflix increased prices 3 times in the last 3 years, all while reporting record profits each time. If anything, I'd sooner expect streaming services to blame tariffs somehow rather than lower prices. 

[BullBuchanan]

4 hours ago, Johnny Bravo said:

I want to steal your car.  You probably have a nicer home than I do so I feel justified.

 

tell me why I’m wrong.

You're doing a great job of proving your own argument false here. If you take someone else's car, you now have their car and they have lost theirs.

You really see how that doesn't happen when someone shares their video stream with you?

[Old Coot]

On 9/3/2025 at 10:58 AM, Logic said:

I remember when they shut down Napster and it ended illegal music downloading forever!

Suing your potential clients is never a good business model.

[Harold Jackson]

4 hours ago, Johnny Bravo said:

No, they are not taking advantage of me.  And they are not taking advantage of you.  This perpetual victim mentality is so sad.

 

The NFL are offers a product at a price.  My 30 plus years of Bills fandom doesn’t give me the right to take that product without paying for it.

 

There have been many years in the past when I couldn’t afford Sunday Ticket, so guess what?  I didn’t get to watch the games live like I wanted to.  No one was screwing me over.  Now I can afford it and I get to watch the games live.  Maybe in the future my circumstances will change again and I won’t be able to afford it-so I won’t watch.

 

its football.  It’s the definition of a luxury.  If you can’t afford it or think it is overpriced, find something else fun to do on Sundays. 

It's only a luxury because corporate greed decided to make it one.

It was free with your television purchase for many years.

 

 

 

[nevadabillsfan22]

I use NFLWEBCAST will see if it is down this weekend always had  trouble with Streamseast.

[Jukester]

2 hours ago, BVBILLS said:

Anyone remember when all TV was free? Where are my rabiit ears? lol

Yeah, I remember the days of the dial without a remote. Actually had to get off the couch and walk to the tv 😳. We have come a long way lol

 

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[billsfan714]

6 hours ago, Dan said:

Absolutely inaccurate.  Downloaded refers to the content being hosted on the internet and you download it and have a copy on your device.  When you stream something… there is no copy on your computer or phone.  You watch the stream… then it’s gone.   You can’t watch it again unless you stream it again. 
 

This is one of the problems with some movie streaming services.  You can pay to “own” a movie and stream it anytime, but it’s a different fee to actually download it. Problem is you can’t always stream the movie for a variety of reasons so do you really own it?
 

The pricing is akin to the old days of renting a movie at blockbuster vs buying the movie and having a copy forever.   Different price points, different uses for the content.  But even in those days people would rent movies and copy them.   Just like we all used to record songs off the radio and make our favorite mix tapes.   
 

Back to the point, watching an illegal streams isn’t an illegal act. Streaming it is.  Watching it is just condoning or supporting that illegal act.   But, since the beginning of time people been wanting something for nothin. It’s human nature.  I still contend the NFL is driving people to these stream sites with their multi platform streaming and pricing model.   

This times a thousand.   To all the people acting like its some serious crime, thank you to the poster above for putting it in perspective.   Ever taped a tv show or movie and gave it to a relative--you just stole.  Burned a CD, same thing.   Recorded an album off FM radio back in the day--you stole. Made a copy of a cassette, you stole.  My dad was an Eldrige Club member and in the 70s when they would get a bus and have the club go to a Bills game, they loaded us kids up with beers under our ponchos--yes my dad stole from Ralph Wilson by not buying beer at concession prices.  Its all relative.  You know what they say about glass houses.

 

For us out of town fans, if you add up Sunday ticket, amazon, peacock, the price is rapidly reaching what a season ticket was in the upper deck a few years ago.   Maybe some of the defenders can police the movie theaters to see who smuggled in a box of milk duds and stole from the theater.

 

The old model, you watched the games and watched commercials, that how the league made money, from the networks selling advertising.  Now you pay a fee and watch commercials.  Just like in the old days you bought season tickets, now you pay a personal license fee for the right to buy season tickets so they can build new stadiums with more luxury boxes.  Their increasing ways to maximize profits knows no end.    

Edited September 4 by billsfan714