SirAndrew Posted August 27 Posted August 27 11 hours ago, boyst said: Let's keep at this. This is a woman who cries about being yourself, who celebrated being the awkward kid growing up By all accounts from her classmates until she disenrolled from school she was quite popular. She was a tall cute blonde, of course she was. But she said she was bullied, but I doubt it was any different than any other teenage girl. She said she had eating issues, but what teenage girl didn't? Sure, I get it she's capitalizing on an image. But it's hypocrisy. It's no different than lizzo who body shames people and now is getting surgery to look better and on ozempic to cut her weight. Taylor also got surgery, pretty funny for a woman who is supposed to be all about being your natural self. And then she talks about how she grew up middle class, when she was a rich girl. No different than kid Rock who talks about growing up and knowing the common Man struggle. But he grew up with parents who owned a car dealership in upper middle class at the very least in the suburbs of detroit. Taylor Swift is about as fake as can be She preaches authenticity and being your sincere self when she is nothing more than a dancing puppet for her own profit The day I give a crap about your opinion is the day that I will jump off a bridge. Great post, describes why I can’t stand popular modern music. It’s created using a cult leader mindset of producing catnip for the masses. There’s no individual artistic expression, it just regurgitates thoughts of the fanbase. I’m old enough to remember when bands released albums the fanbase hated, because they followed their heart. Almost every act had these albums, Swift never will because it’s so carefully crafted. 1 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: Great post, describes why I can’t stand popular modern music. It’s created using a cult leader mindset of producing catnip for the masses. There’s no individual artistic expression, it just regurgitates thoughts of the fanbase. I’m old enough to remember when bands released albums the fanbase hated, because they followed their heart. Almost every act had these albums, Swift never will because it’s so carefully crafted. those that can DO. Those that can't Criticize those who can . cult leader mindset. LOL This thread has jumped the shark. the girl is smart talented and very popular. wow the woman is in her 30's she will NEVER produce an unpopular album now they are fortune tellers too lol give me a break Edited August 28 by muppy Quote
SirAndrew Posted August 28 Posted August 28 32 minutes ago, muppy said: those that can DO. Those that can't Criticize those who can . cult leader mindset. LOL This thread has jumped the shark. the girl is smart talented and very popular. wow the woman is in her 30's she will NEVER produce an unpopular album now they are fortune tellers too lol give me a break That’s fair, but this isn’t a case of “those who can’t criticize those who can”. It’s just musical taste being very subjective. As a music nerd it bums me out that Swift is seen as the pinnacle of musical talent in 2025. 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 28 Posted August 28 I find this whole thread to be batshit crazy. They are going to get married and it has absolutely no effect on any of our lives. 1 2 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I find this whole thread to be batshit crazy. They are going to get married and it has absolutely no effect on any of our lives. Of course it does! When we choke down this garbage: https://nypost.com/2025/08/27/lifestyle/how-to-get-food-freebies-to-celebrate-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-engagement/ 😔😟 I just got diabeetus: 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) 13 hours ago, SirAndrew said: Great post, describes why I can’t stand popular modern music. It’s created using a cult leader mindset of producing catnip for the masses. There’s no individual artistic expression, it just regurgitates thoughts of the fanbase. I’m old enough to remember when bands released albums the fanbase hated, because they followed their heart. Almost every act had these albums, Swift never will because it’s so carefully crafted. It has always been that way... Ever see how Paul McCartney bangs out a song. It was online for a while, how "Get Back" was made... McCartney was even pissed Harrison showed up late, then right to business popping out the song. I don't really like the process anymore than you do... But some good music is made. We know how yummy hot dogs 🌭 taste, do we really need to see how they are made? Edited August 28 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28 Posted August 28 We all got this creep-o to thank for creating the "Wall of Sound" technique that keeps people hooked: The game really isn't any different today... Quote
SoTier Posted August 28 Posted August 28 11 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It has always been that way... Ever see how Paul McCartney bangs out a song. It was online for a while, how "Get Back" was made... McCartney was even pissed Harrison showed up late, then right to business popping out the song. I don't really like the process anymore than you do... But some good music is made. We know how yummy hot dogs 🌭 taste, do we really need to see how they are made? You can go back even further than McCartney. Colonel Tom Parker managed every aspect of Elvis Presley's career for his entire career. Between 1961 and 1967, the Beatles manager Brian Epstein orchestrated their rise to superstardom. In Detroit, Barry Gordy's had a stable of singers, musicians, and songwriters cranking out "Motown Sound" hit after hit. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted August 28 Posted August 28 53 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: We know how yummy hot dogs 🌭 taste, do we really need to see how they are made? Sahlens hot dogs are so overrated. 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted August 28 Posted August 28 9 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I find this whole thread to be batshit crazy. They are going to get married and it has absolutely no effect on any of our lives. This is nothing compared to the rest of the country. Which is why I think we are getting closer and closer to Idiocracy! Quote
Bill from NYC Posted August 28 Posted August 28 14 hours ago, SirAndrew said: That’s fair, but this isn’t a case of “those who can’t criticize those who can”. It’s just musical taste being very subjective. As a music nerd it bums me out that Swift is seen as the pinnacle of musical talent in 2025. I fully agree but it isn't her fault. She is just a lucky young woman with a certain amount of talent (I'm not sure how much because I don't know one of her songs) who came along at the right time. My daughter and her husband flew to Scotland to see one of her concerts. I don't understand this. If Jerry Garcia was alive and healthy, I would not fly to Scotland to see the Grateful Dead even if I was as rich as Bezos, and I'm a big Dead Fan. They were able to afford this trip but it makes no sense to me. Then again, I went to Alabama for a football game and it cost me a few thousand and my wife gets Amazon deliveries every day, so I suppose I'm a hypocrite. 1 Quote
SoTier Posted August 28 Posted August 28 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I fully agree but it isn't her fault. She is just a lucky young woman with a certain amount of talent (I'm not sure how much because I don't know one of her songs) who came along at the right time. My daughter and her husband flew to Scotland to see one of her concerts. I don't understand this. If Jerry Garcia was alive and healthy, I would not fly to Scotland to see the Grateful Dead even if I was as rich as Bezos, and I'm a big Dead Fan. They were able to afford this trip but it makes no sense to me. Then again, I went to Alabama for a football game and it cost me a few thousand and my wife gets Amazon deliveries every day, so I suppose I'm a hypocrite. Thirty years ago, I took time off work, stood in line for two hours on a cold, windy day in Albany NY to get a bracelet that let me come back two days later and stand in line for three hours on an only slightly less frigid day to spend a small fortune (at the time) on 4 nose-bleed tickets to see Garth Brooks. I wouldn't stand in line to see Taylor Swift only because I'm old and don't go to concerts (or sporting events) because it's way too much trouble. 1 Quote
Augie Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) 8 hours ago, US Egg said: Sahlens hot dogs are so overrated. I got some Sahlen’s dogs at the grocery store recently and they were not what I remembered, even from just a few years ago. It was the first time I was ever disappointed with them. Coulda’ been a bad day/batch, but I’m in no hurry to try again. EDIT: But we WILL be going to Ted’s next week! . Edited August 28 by Augie 1 Quote
US Egg Posted August 28 Posted August 28 52 minutes ago, Augie said: I got some Sahlen’s dogs at the grocery store recently and they were not what I remembered, even from just a few years ago. It was the first time I was ever disappointed with them. Coulda’ been a bad day/batch, but I’m in no hurry to try again. Agree, it seems to be of late, bland and casings tough. Wife now has to peel the submucosa off for grandkids and me. Quote
Augie Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, US Egg said: Agree, it seems to be of late, bland and casings tough. Wife now has to peel the submucosa off for grandkids and me. Does she cut up all your food? There was something about the taste that just wasn’t….the same or right or something. Maybe it was my expectations, but I’ll hit Ted’s next week and see if I become inspired. Edited August 28 by Augie Quote
BillsFooteball Posted August 28 Posted August 28 6 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I fully agree but it isn't her fault. She is just a lucky young woman with a certain amount of talent (I'm not sure how much because I don't know one of her songs) who came along at the right time. My daughter and her husband flew to Scotland to see one of her concerts. I don't understand this. If Jerry Garcia was alive and healthy, I would not fly to Scotland to see the Grateful Dead even if I was as rich as Bezos, and I'm a big Dead Fan. They were able to afford this trip but it makes no sense to me. Then again, I went to Alabama for a football game and it cost me a few thousand and my wife gets Amazon deliveries every day, so I suppose I'm a hypocrite. Assuming this was her most recent tour, your daughter went to the most popular, greatest performance tour in our lifetime. I’m sure they enjoyed. Quote
US Egg Posted August 29 Posted August 29 10 hours ago, Augie said: Does she cut up all your food She cuts the crust off the bread, makes me smiley face pancakes, cook me whatever I wish.My job is to get out the tv trays and find some show to eat by, presently PAWN STARS. She cleans up dinner while I take the arduous task of putting away the tv trays. She cuts the lawn, stains the deck, snow blows the driveway, pays the bills, does all the grocery shopping, brings me my meds2x daily. I think that paints the picture……it’s the price she had to pay to go to Italy next month. That, and learn Italian, which she did. 1 Quote
boyst Posted August 29 Posted August 29 11 hours ago, BillsFooteball said: Assuming this was her most recent tour, your daughter went to the most popular, greatest performance tour in our lifetime. I’m sure they enjoyed. Holy batshit crazy balls This is hardly true. Sure the revenue was there but it is subjective. Quantity doesn't equal quality. As a tour, sure it was huge and popular. It was a masterful performance. She can put on a helluva show and I remember back almost 10-12 years ago when I wouldn't back down to @Buftex about her talent and career to exceed Beyonce saying she has more talent (she does, her art is far more popular). But, by individual accounts it's all subjective. Her tour was ginormous but doesn't mean it was the best. Quote
SoTier Posted August 29 Posted August 29 14 hours ago, US Egg said: Agree, it seems to be of late, bland and casings tough. Wife now has to peel the submucosa off for grandkids and me. I have always thought the Sahlens' skins tough, so I'm a Ball Park Franks fan. Quote
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