All 22 Clips from Bears Preseason game.

[MikePJ76]

I have been scattering these in various threads.  I am just going to make a thread for them and add as I go.

 

Here is the bishop play where he (They) gave up the Touchdown

 

Bishop covering Odunze in the slot

 

Moore getting open on a crosser on 3rd down but ball goes to Latu.

 

Moore getting open again on an arrow route but the ball is tipped.

 

Hancock seeing the run and making the tackle for a loss

 

Hancock making a play on the back in the crowd inside the 5

 

Dwayne Carter, Dorian Wiliams and Hoecht blowing up a screen  (i forgot to remove the audio here, was listening to sal)

 

Strong and Hancock appear to communicate before the play but then one of them makes a mistake here and doesn't pick up the underneath crossing route. Coach Addae is immediately yelling at one of them.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by MikePJ76

[Sojourner]

I’m surprised there was even 22 clips to show…

 

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[MikePJ76]

Safeties appear to make a mistake here, seems like Hancock but I am not qualified to say.

 

 

Gore is wide open and White doesn't throw it to him and takes the sack.

 

Hancock with another excellent tackle inside the five

 

Moore open yet again and the ball is air mailed.  

 

Edited 1 hour ago by MikePJ76

[SoonerBillsFan]

15 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I have been scattering these in various threads.  I am just going to make a thread for them and add as I go.

 

Here is the bishop play where he (They) gave up the Touchdown

 

Bishop covering Odunze in the slot

 

Moore getting open on a crosser on 3rd down but ball goes to hawes.

 

Moore getting open again on an arrow route but the ball is tipped.

 

Hancock seeing the run and making the tackle for a loss

 

Hancock making a play on the back in the crowd inside the 5

 

Dwayne Carter, Dorian Wiliams and Hoecht blowing up a screen  (i forgot to remove the audio here, was listening to sal)

 

Strong and Hancock appear to communicate before the play but then one of them makes a mistake here and doesn't pick up the underneath crossing route. Coach Addae is immediately yelling at one of them.

Why would you subject yourself to this?

 

 

[TFBillsfan]

My gosh Damar is almost 20 yards back from the LOS and still gives up a TD on a horrible tackle. SMH

[Sojourner]

Just got done watching the game and whether he makes it or not, I liked what Gore Jr. put out there. All-22 showing that as well. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Moore getting open, as expected.

Bishop got absolutely toasted on that touchdown. I hope for his sake he's still playing hurt. 

[MikePJ76]

ok I have to get back to work.  I will watch the second half and add some plays later.

 

I will say this after watching the all 22, Mike White was Terrible.  The interior of the oline struggled.  Strong and Hancock made some mental mistakes it appears that led to blown coverages.  Strong is a poor tackler and looks uncomfortable chasing the ball carrier in open space.  Hoecht looks like he is going to have some issues playing the run based on this first half, which means nothing.

 

Dorian williams was all over and looked to be playing with the most energy of anyone on the team. 

 

Moore was open repeatedly and did not get a catchable ball or got no ball.  He is a lock for the roster.

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

ok I have to get back to work.  I will watch the second half and add some plays later.

 

I will say this after watching the all 22, Mike White was Terrible.  The interior of the oline struggled.  Strong and Hancock made some mental mistakes it appears that led to blown coverages.  Strong is a poor tackler and looks uncomfortable chasing the ball carrier in open space.  Hoecht looks like he is going to have some issues playing the run based on this first half, which means nothing.

 

Dorian williams was all over and looked to be playing with the most energy of anyone on the team. 

 

Moore was open repeatedly and did not get a catchable ball or got no ball.  He is a lock for the roster.

Still got to take advantage of the opportunities when getting them.  This has kind of been the story of his career.  

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Mat68 said:

Still got to take advantage of the opportunities when getting them.  This has kind of been the story of his career.  

how could he take adavantage of a situation where the ball isn't thrown to him or is thrown over his head....or as in the one play was tipped and knocked down?

 

[Rubes]

Great stuff, thanks. There were actually some decent things there, receivers and RBs were getting open. Mike White was just terrible, though, as was the interior OL.

 

FYI, that third video in the initial post was to Latu, not Hawes.

 

[BuffaloMatt]

They should do an all 22 on the coaching plan for this game as it was non-existent. Back up D was on field for 40 minutes. Offense 0-8 on third and 0-2 on fourth. Brillant game planning wound up injuring Hancock the only bright spot on D. Following Saturday's third and final pre-season game Dane jackson should be cut.

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

I have been scattering these in various threads.  I am just going to make a thread for them and add as I go.

 

Here is the bishop play where he (They) gave up the Touchdown

 

Bishop covering Odunze in the slot

 

Moore getting open on a crosser on 3rd down but ball goes to Latu.

 

Moore getting open again on an arrow route but the ball is tipped.

 

Hancock seeing the run and making the tackle for a loss

 

Hancock making a play on the back in the crowd inside the 5

 

Dwayne Carter, Dorian Wiliams and Hoecht blowing up a screen  (i forgot to remove the audio here, was listening to sal)

 

Strong and Hancock appear to communicate before the play but then one of them makes a mistake here and doesn't pick up the underneath crossing route. Coach Addae is immediately yelling at one of them.

 

 

I love these clips because it shows a lot of things. First Bishop doesn’t usually line up in the slot. 
 

First clip was cover 1, Looks like Bishop and the other DB decide to Banjo cover it and Bishop bites to hard on the outside move and gets beat hard inside. 
 

2nd clip Bishop just gets beat by Odunze on an out route. Again we won’t see Bishop a ton in the slot playing man. 
 

The 3rd clip Latu is actually the right read. The LBs switch it off and actually Moore makes a mistake. Bills call a mesh which is a man beater but Moore keeps running into the defender versus sitting down in the vacant space and finally settles in front of the the LB

 

The Hancock play in the run game is nice but the two DTs get washed 4 yards back right off the snap 

 

 

[Mat68]

7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

how could he take adavantage of a situation where the ball isn't thrown to him or is thrown over his head....or as in the one play was tipped and knocked down?

 

The ones he dropped when he was open.  This is Moore since Ole Miss.  He creates separation there is always a but.  His qb play… His usage.  At the end of the day his catch percent of his targets is mid 50%.  Similar to players that have roughly double his depth of target.  It’s not always something else.  At a point after 4-5 years it is him.  For a guy who is fight for a role its not great.  Yes getting separation is half the equation.  Making the play is the other half.  For an underneath pass catcher his consistency is not what you want.  Those drops are what has plagued his career.  

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I love these clips because it shows a lot of things. First Bishop doesn’t usually line up in the slot. 
 

First clip was cover 1, Looks like Bishop and the other DB decide to Banjo cover it and Bishop bites to hard on the outside move and gets beat hard inside. 
 

2nd clip Bishop just gets beat by Odunze on an out route. Again we won’t see Bishop a ton in the slot playing man. 
 

The 3rd clip Latu is actually the right read. The LBs switch it off and actually Moore makes a mistake. Bills call a mesh which is a man beater but Moore keeps running into the defender versus sitting down in the vacant space and finally settles in front of the the LB

 

The Hancock play in the run game is nice but the two DTs get washed 4 yards back right off the snap 

 

 

Thats not bishop getting beat in the second clip.  Bishop is on odunze over the middle.

 

Erik Turner just pointed out that because the bills didn't game plan they just let bishop take OZ the wr there in the TD play, he said in a real game the bills would not let him take oz there and would end up taking kmet.

 

 

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

Thats not bishop getting beat in the second clip.  Bishop is on odunze over the middle.

 

Erik Turner just pointed out that because the bills didn't game plan they just let bishop take OZ the wr there in the TD play, he said in a real game the bills would not let him take oz there and would end up taking kmet.

 

 

Yea that’s my bad it’s more about trying to highlight that the Bills were working and experimenting last night on things they may or may not want to do later. There were also about 4-5 zone blitzes by the Bills where DL were dropping into coverage I noticed. The Bills were very unserious about this game while the Bears were trying to establish the stuff they want to run during the season . It was very un pretty to watch for sure but you could see it really from play 1 on 

[947]

A week ago, I'd have been OK with Mike White being our QB2, I was so wrong. The guy absolutely blows. I don't think Mitch is good enough to win a game either, but he is the far superior option.

[Jauronimo]

13 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Yea that’s my bad it’s more about trying to highlight that the Bills were working and experimenting last night on things they may or may not want to do later. There were also about 4-5 zone blitzes by the Bills where DL were dropping into coverage I noticed. The Bills were very unserious about this game while the Bears were trying to establish the stuff they want to run during the season . It was very un pretty to watch for sure but you could see it really from play 1 on 

I'm glad I saw this post.  Looks like I can unplug the toaster and bring it back downstairs to the kitchen.

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

46 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Moore getting open, as expected.

Bishop got absolutely toasted on that touchdown. I hope for his sake he's still playing hurt. 

A friend of mine was at the game and he said that Bishop looked like he was favoring his injury.  Probably should not have been out there and it explains his early exit from the game.  He also said that Shavers looked really fast and physical against press coverage.  He also said that the camp bodies were pathetic and looked lost in the secondary.

[Mat68]

2 minutes ago, 947 said:

A week ago, I'd have been OK with Mike White being our QB2, I was so wrong. The guy absolutely blows. I don't think Mitch is good enough to win a game either, but he is the far superior option.

Mitch will win an ugly game but win.  Mike White is a 3rd qb.  PS 3rd Qb.  I want Buffalo to draft a day 3 qb simply to make the pres season watchable again.