Gen-Z is cooked - it was by design so you’ll demand socialism

[Big Blitz]

All sped up by COVID and the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION 

 

 

 

 

This is the biggest crisis in America.  
 

Trump can’t fix this overnight ignore the lib bs that he should have fixed this by now.  
 

 

NEVER FORGET the Branch Covidians did this.  

[Albwan]

NEVER FORGET the Branch Covidians did this.  

Aka creepy white liptards

[BillsFanNC]

It took the Marxists nearly 100 years to get to where they are now in this country. Fully infesting every institution and branch of government from local to federal. How did they do it? They embraced the fight each and every day through the years.

 

They're not going away in one orange term or with 10 more anti communist Presidents.

 

This scourge upon our country will NEVER relent and the fight will continue long after each and every one of us on this insignificant corner of a Bills message board are long gone into the great beyond.

 

Embrace the fight as they did and will continue doing. Celebrate the wins against evil and don't let the Ls discourage you.

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

[reddogblitz]

Not so sure some of this is not exaggerated.  Getting your first house was never easy or at least hadn't been in the last 45 Years or so.   When I bought my first house on 1986, interest rates were 11.5%.  Sure prices were lower, but the payments were high due to interest rates.

 

I know several young people who have been able to buy a house in the last few years.  They had to save up and work hard and maybe live further out, but they did it.

 

Or, if they were to join the military for 3 years, when they get out they could buy a house with 1% down and a lower interest rate.  Worked for me.

Edited 19 hours ago by reddogblitz

[Big Blitz]

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Well if that was the plan (it wasn't) then it failed miserably.

Americans under the age of 30 voted for Harris by 4 points (50 percent Harris – 46 percent Trump), though young men and women diverged dramatically, with men under 30 voting for Trump by 16 points (41 percent Harris – 57 percent Trump), and women under 30 voting for Harris by 24 points (59 percent Harris – 35 percent Trump). 

 

I remember somebody saying "it's the economy stupid" re elections.  and it's true.  No surprise that young women supported anyone but trump.  He sees them as chattel.

17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Well, this is a  shocker.  Who ever thought car dealers would try to rip you off.  must have just started doing this....

tommy eyerolls!  where you been?  getting your eyelids raised?

Edited 11 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Well if that was the plan (it wasn't) then it failed miserably.

Americans under the age of 30 voted for Harris by 4 points (50 percent Harris – 46 percent Trump), though young men and women diverged dramatically, with men under 30 voting for Trump by 16 points (41 percent Harris – 57 percent Trump), and women under 30 voting for Harris by 24 points (59 percent Harris – 35 percent Trump). 

 

I remember somebody saying "it's the economy stupid" re elections.  and it's true.  No surprise that young women supported anyone but trump.  He sees them as chattel.

Well, this is a  shocker.  Who ever thought car dealers would try to rip you off.  must have just started doing this....

tommy eyerolls!  where you been?  getting your eyelids raised?

Kamala couldn't even spell economy. Please go into great detail about her economic policies? Spoiler alert......she had none.

[JDHillFan]

19 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Well if that was the plan (it wasn't) then it failed miserably.

Americans under the age of 30 voted for Harris by 4 points (50 percent Harris – 46 percent Trump), though young men and women diverged dramatically, with men under 30 voting for Trump by 16 points (41 percent Harris – 57 percent Trump), and women under 30 voting for Harris by 24 points (59 percent Harris – 35 percent Trump). 

Now compare all that to how Biden did with those age groups in 2020. Do you see any change from 2020 to 2024? In what direction do you see change?

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/07/g-s1-33331/unpacking-the-2024-youth-vote-heres-what-we-know-so-far

 

here’s an article that you and I helped fund.

Edited 11 hours ago by JDHillFan

[sherpa]

24 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

Well, this is a  shocker.  Who ever thought car dealers would try to rip you off.  must have just started doing this....

tommy eyerolls!  where you been?  getting your eyelids raised?

 

Did you actually read what that kid posted?

He's complaining about them suggesting financing a car purchase when he's prepared to pay cash, and then states they want just under 20% interest.

He's either an idiot, or he's lying.

I see dealership commercials all the time, and they advertise 3.5 to 5.5% rates. He is quoting credit card rates, which you would have to be a moron to even consider.

Since you can get over 4% on simple money market funds, seems quite reasonable.

Further, if you offer cash you don't have to sit and listen to anything. If they don't want it, and they all will, just leave.

Seems like a full class idiot to me.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

19 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Did you actually read what that kid posted?

He's complaining about them suggesting financing a car purchase when he's prepared to pay cash, and then states they want just under 20% interest.

He's either an idiot, or he's lying.

I see dealership commercials all the time, and they advertise 3.5 to 5.5% rates. He is quoting credit card rates, which you would have to be a moron to even consider.

Since you can get over 4% on simple money market funds, seems quite reasonable.

Further, if you offer cash you don't have to sit and listen to anything. If they don't want it, and they all will, just leave.

Seems like a full class idiot to me.

Yes, I read it. Blitz was using it as an example of how bad it is for gen z. R u surprised it’s untrue?  I bought my current car with cash. They tried to talk me into an awful lease deal. 

[Roundybout]

It’s the supply, stupid. 
 

We are millions of units short of where we need to be to meet demand. 
 

It’s over regulation to protect property values. 

18 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

It took the Marxists nearly 100 years to get to where they are now in this country. Fully infesting every institution and branch of government from local to federal. How did they do it? They embraced the fight each and every day through the years.

 

They're not going away in one orange term or with 10 more anti communist Presidents.

 

This scourge upon our country will NEVER relent and the fight will continue long after each and every one of us on this insignificant corner of a Bills message board are long gone into the great beyond.

 

Embrace the fight as they did and will continue doing. Celebrate the wins against evil and don't let the Ls discourage you.

 

 

 

You’re never going to win. Globalism and liberalism always wins. 
 

You cannot address the challenges of the future with the ideology of the past. 

[Taro T]

35 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Did you actually read what that kid posted?

He's complaining about them suggesting financing a car purchase when he's prepared to pay cash, and then states they want just under 20% interest.

He's either an idiot, or he's lying.

I see dealership commercials all the time, and they advertise 3.5 to 5.5% rates. He is quoting credit card rates, which you would have to be a moron to even consider.

Since you can get over 4% on simple money market funds, seems quite reasonable.

Further, if you offer cash you don't have to sit and listen to anything. If they don't want it, and they all will, just leave.

Seems like a full class idiot to me.

 

If the kid has a horrible credit rating, could see them offering him a ridiculously high interest rate.  And he'd be very wise to stick to his guns and pay cash or walk out to another dealer.  (As you suggest at the end.)  Cousin had a friend that had a couple of bankruptcies in his past; he ended up having payments on a 5 year old car that were more than those for much nicer new cars.

 

But the real money for dealerships is in selling the extras: warranties, undercoating, paint sealants, etc.  And their service department makes way more money than the car sales department does.

Edited 10 hours ago by Taro T

[yall]

32 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Yes, I read it. Blitz was using it as an example of how bad it is for gen z. R u surprised it’s untrue?  I bought my current car with cash. They tried to talk me into an awful lease deal. 

Yeah they want you to finance, obviously. But having worked in the Auto industry and knowing people that still do, they won't broom you off the lot just because you want to pay cash. They certainly won't be horrified. 

 

A sale is a sale. And frankly, you won't even deal with the interest rate until you get to the negotiation phase. If you tell a salesperson you're paying cash, their eyes will light up and they'll show you anything on the lot. 

 

That post is hyperbolic bull####.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, yall said:

Yeah they want you to finance, obviously. But having worked in the Auto industry and knowing people that still do, they won't broom you off the lot just because you want to pay cash. They certainly won't be horrified. 

 

A sale is a sale. And frankly, you won't even deal with the interest rate until you get to the negotiation phase. If you tell a salesperson you're paying cash, their eyes will light up and they'll show you anything on the lot. 

 

That post is hyperbolic bull####.

Yeah seriously, why wouldn’t a dealer be thrilled to have guaranteed money instead of the risk of the person defaulting on the auto loan?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, yall said:

Yeah they want you to finance, obviously. But having worked in the Auto industry and knowing people that still do, they won't broom you off the lot just because you want to pay cash. They certainly won't be horrified. 

 

A sale is a sale. And frankly, you won't even deal with the interest rate until you get to the negotiation phase. If you tell a salesperson you're paying cash, their eyes will light up and they'll show you anything on the lot. 

 

That post is hyperbolic bull####.

They wanted me in a short term lease. They make more if you trade every couple years.  Then they get you on the residual. Then they get you on financing . Then they get you on wear and tear. I once returned a low clearance sports car that they charged me $300 for scratches under the bumper!  It’s shady business. And they’ll show just about anybody anything on the lot. 
 

I once had a very wealthy patient who always wore overalls and had a chaw of tobacco in. He went to the merc dealer and was looking around. The salesman told him not to worry. He couldn’t afford them. He spit tobacco juice on one and said “I’ll take this one”.

[sherpa]

22 minutes ago, yall said:

 

That post is hyperbolic bull####.

It absolutely is.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

23 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Yeah seriously, why wouldn’t a dealer be thrilled to have guaranteed money instead of the risk of the person defaulting on the auto loan?

They get kickbacks and use the car as collateral, so they get more $$ when you finance.

[T&C]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Funny but true. I've been looking for a 5-10K car for just around town... a 20 mile range, no roadtrips. 3 of the places I went wouldn't sell unless I financed. I might look to facebook marketplace...