For those saying “this is what we voted for…”

[stevestojan]

Boyst, you SOB! I even thought about the spelling and still missed it. 

[Homelander]

51 minutes ago, K D said:

So you think it's ok to exploit illegal migrants for cheap labor? That's pretty messed up

 

You’re deflecting. No one said it’s okay to exploit anyone. What I did say is that Trump’s policies are hurting the very people who voted for him - farmers are facing labor shortages, lost markets from trade wars, and rising costs. If you care about American farmers, the focus should be on policies that actually help them, not culture war distractions. Blaming immigrants doesn’t fix tractors or harvest crops.

[Homelander]

37 minutes ago, boyst said:

I voted for Trump and would again because we need a better education system in this country. We need people who know aisle from isle. Trump will fix this! MSGA!

 

I'm an independent libertarian (notice the lower case L). Trump was the lesser of two evils. Everyone hates him that has power... I hate everyone that has the power over this country and has held it in the uniparty for 40-50 years. So, yeah, hopefully checks and balances can be restored to the presidency. Maybe one day the Senate will get the head out of their ass but that isn't likely since the 17th amendment destroyed what was a fabric of our Republic. The house is a joke in every way. The state governments are still holding on by a shred of chance, but only some states and not all.

 

California, Colorado New York, Michigan, Washington, Hawaii are all too far gone one way down the aisle. Nebraska, ND, SD, Oklahoma, and several other states are still doing just what they were 100 years ago. This is a good thing because states should choose their own whole being a part of the larger Republic. But, since Lincoln that's all been screwed up, too.

 

I'd vote for Trump again because Democrats and the bull#### they pull is far more disgraceful to humanity than the Trump Administration. Honoring George Floyd all over the country today, smeaing Kavanaugh, Russia hoax, the Clinton and Obama mafia (back to back with the Bush family), is all ridiculous.

 

Anyone else would be better than another politician. 

 

Trump is so powerful.

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

7 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

Trump is so powerful.

 

 

You a a sad, broken person.

[Doc]

12 hours ago, Homelander said:

This is what they voted for

 

 

 

LOL!  You don't want us to post a "This is what you voted for" with Biden and Harris clips.  It wouldn't end well for you.

 

11 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

I don’t understand why we can’t all agree that the lefts identity politics is absurd and harmful while at the same time admit Trumps ideology has turned concerningly authoritarian. Why would anyone blindly support either side. I understand if you lean right and voted for Trump. Makes sense.  But the trumpers on here will defend everything he does to no end. Biden’s dementia doesn’t mean Trump should have free rein in ruling the country. 

 

What is authoritarian?  O more precisely, more authoritarian than his predecessors?

[ComradeKayAdams]

16 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

I ignore Donald's rhetoric (he's a professional salesman and pitch artist after all).  I look at his actions.

 

His words are populist, transformative and unconventional.

 

His actions/policies are fairly similar to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. He's looked into Putin's eyes and seen his soul. He's for supply side economics. He thinks deficits don't matter. He makes a stink about DEI/Affirmative Action/Political Correctness. And so on, and so on.

 

All the tariff shenanigans are just the virtue-signaling and grandstanding. W would have executed the same things quietly via smoky backrooms using the Bretton Woods architecture. But then he wouldn't have gotten as much credit or burnished his personal brand.

 

He has successfully repackaged and sold the Country Club GOP's agenda, because JEB! and his ilk were too hooked on West Wing re-runs, and because Donald's part of the Country Club. 

 

Yup, I basically see Trumpism the same way: rebranded Reaganism and an inevitable consequence of late-stage neoliberalism. It’s always some new culture war topic that divides and conquers the American people when election season arrives: gay marriage, a war on Christmas, illegal immigrants, “dudes” wearing super cute dresses, etc…

 

I figure this thread will quickly reach the conclusion that we are all given a binary presidential choice, and most of us are employing what we believe to be a “lesser of two evils” electoral strategy. It’s then a basic human psychological reflex to defend and justify our choices up to the point when reality can no longer be ignored.

 

An important question worth exploring is “why” we ended up with these two particular choices in the first place: Trump versus Biden/Harris. The short answer: see “Citizens United v. FEC” (2010). The long answer: see “Democracy in America” (1840) by Alexis de Toqueville.

 

My only caveat here with anything Toqueville is that he is widely credited as perceiving Americans to be fundamentally “good” people. I would strongly challenge that assertion at every step along the way in American history, well past 1840. A society worth saving never even considers denying universal human rights to undocumented immigrants, nor does it obsess over its collective 401(k) status as its government funds an active genocide in Gaza. Growing up against a post-9/11 political backdrop, it was readily apparent that fascism is simply imperialism turned inward. Call it “God’s divine will” or call it “karma,” but we Americans deserve Donald Trump and everything that is to unfold.

 

On that note…um, happy Memorial Day??

 

14 hours ago, muppy said:

he is changing things alright. and his boy Elon Musk too. NOONE saw him coming IMO

 

maybe Im wrong it often happens

 

*shrugs*

 

did you read the trillions with a fooking T SPENDING he is proposing for our country? saving money> OMGoodness LOL

 

THUD.

 

That's me dropping dead at the thought of he caring about anything but his rich friends.

 

FACT: PPP is a better place with Muppy involved.

[Westside]

Leftists didn’t care about the deficit when we were giving billions of dollars to ILLEGAL immigrants. Only when Americans are the recipient of tax cuts do the leftists lose their minds. 

[muppy]

what is up with the HATE in here it fooking reeks of it

 

desperate times call for desperate measures I guess

 

can I get an amen from the PPP chorus??

 

MAGA!!!!! Hold up yer FIST

 

LOL

[Coffeesforclosers]

14 minutes ago, Westside said:

Leftists didn’t care about the deficit when we were giving billions of dollars to ILLEGAL immigrants. Only when Americans are the recipient of tax cuts do the leftists lose their minds. 

 

Yeah, we can point fingers all day.  In fact that's what our elites are counting on us to do.

 

The fact of the matter is the deficits keep on exploding, regardless of who is in office.

 

There are no adults left to put in the room.

Edited Monday at 02:04 PM by Coffeesforclosers

[muppy]

21 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Yeah, we can point fingers all day.  In fact that's what our elites are counting on us to do.

 

The fact of the matter is the deficits keep on exploding, regardless of who is in office.

 

There are no adults left to put in the room.

so much tribal grandstanding in this thread. MAGA will defend Donald trumps actions  until  it is so obvious he was wrong people will have to wake Up and accept Responsibility for agreeing to  back such a person

 

he doesn't know what he is doing. I'm convinced he flies by the seat of his pants making it up as  he goes and so if it works heap allll the praises. If it fails Blame all your party foes.

 

LOL

 

if his plans works and our country is made great  (Made greater HOW). and richer. for who though LOL

 

I will accept it. right now we are in a mess of mierda IMHO

 

I laugh instead of cry

I will NOT cut MEDICARE 

 

Donald trump

 

remember this phrase.

 

SMH

Edited Monday at 02:25 PM by muppy

[Westside]

19 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Yeah, we can point fingers all day.  In fact that's what our elites are counting on us to do.

 

The fact of the matter is the deficits keep on exploding, regardless of who is in office.

 

There are no adults left to put in the room.

Your sudden concern about the budget seems very TDS to me.

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, muppy said:

 

if his plans works and our country is made great I will accept it.              right now we are in a mess of mierda IMHO

 

 

 

Pretty gracious of you Steve   

 

Just kidding.

 

Happy Memorial Day !

 

 

 

 

.

[US Egg]

With Trump as President flying the flag is viewed as a form of zealotry akin to flying the Confederate flag.

 

Edited Monday at 04:29 PM by US Egg

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Pretty gracious of you Steve   

 

Just kidding.

 

Happy Memorial Day !

 

 

 

 

.

do u know what is really quite funny about this? my given full name is Marjorie.

 

with MTG being one of the biggest MAGA trolls out there. She gives Marjorie a Bad name.

 

Im Bitter about it too tbh

 

cheers 🙂

 

m

Edited Monday at 02:28 PM by muppy

[B-Man]

 

 

My mistake Ms. Muppy,

 

I completely blanked and thought that the original post was from Stevestojan.

 

Lo siento

[Pokebball]

13 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

I don’t understand why we can’t all agree that the lefts identity politics is absurd and harmful while at the same time admit Trumps ideology has turned concerningly authoritarian. Why would anyone blindly support either side. I understand if you lean right and voted for Trump. Makes sense.  But the trumpers on here will defend everything he does to no end. Biden’s dementia doesn’t mean Trump should have free rein in ruling the country. 

I'm not sure anyone is "blindly" supporting either side. When there are a dozen business owners in the boardroom and the vote behind that door is 7-5, they all come out supporting that vote as if it was 12-0, right? That's the way it is.

[njbuff]

Homolander/BillSlime continues with his moronic takes that everybody laughs at.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

18 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

I ignore Donald's rhetoric (he's a professional salesman and pitch artist after all).  I look at his actions.

 

His words are populist, transformative and unconventional.

 

His actions/policies are fairly similar to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. He's looked into Putin's eyes and seen his soul. He's for supply side economics. He thinks deficits don't matter. He makes a stink about DEI/Affirmative Action/Political Correctness. And so on, and so on.

 

All the tariff shenanigans are just the virtue-signaling and grandstanding. W would have executed the same things quietly via smoky backrooms using the Bretton Woods architecture. But then he wouldn't have gotten as much credit or burnished his personal brand.

 

He has successfully repackaged and sold the Country Club GOP's agenda, because JEB! and his ilk were too hooked on West Wing re-runs, and because Donald's part of the Country Club. 

I don't see this at all.  trump is unique if not only for Jan 6.  He fomented an insurrection against our democracy unparalleled in our history other than by the actions of the traitors in the civil war.  None of the country club, establishment R's were gauche and purposefully showy.  A pine covered porch on a grand old house in Maine has been replaced by gold toilets and trophy wives.  Oakhill and Augusta and the Masters have been replaced by mar a lago, doral and the Saudi based LIV tour.  Most importantly, seasoned advisors and cabinet members have been replaced by totally unqualified tv news presenters and podcasters who swear loyalty.  Cheney was awful but at least he was seasoned.

 

Real R's rarely drastically cut social spending because they knew it could result in unrest and conflict that could also injure their well heeled contingency.  Welfare is cheaper than quelling rioting.  They never publicly hung out with white supremacists and hate group leaders.  They never tried to alienate our allies, especially Europe and NATO.  They never attacked academia and science head on.  Yes, they wrongly believed in trickle down economics would work but trump doesn't believe it.  he doesn't care.  Finally, the old fashioned conservatives never engaged in the level of self dealing and corruption trump has.  Most had tooo much respect for their and their families' legacies.  trump doesn't care.

[TH3]

20 hours ago, stevestojan said:

This is one of the better posts I’ve seen here in some time. 👍

No it’s not…you asked about dt promises and is this what you voted for…seems to me nobody is answering your question…it more sleepy joe trans people and pointing to the left

[stevestojan]

2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

No it’s not…you asked about dt promises and is this what you voted for…seems to me nobody is answering your question…it more sleepy joe trans people and pointing to the left

I believe if you read the posts, in general, most state they voted for the party and the policies (both of which I disagree with, but at least we’re discussing politics) and just put up with the mouthpiece. Many said they wish he would shut up or a similar sentiment.