These utility bills are too dang high

[Johnny Hammersticks]

30 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Maybe if your wife didn’t keep the bagels in the toaster so long, your bill would be a little more reasonable. 
 

Might have to invest in a solar powered toaster if she keeps it up, Guys!  🤬

[Steptide]

I know someone who got 2 electric bills for $1200. This was in a 2 bedroom apartment. Rochester gas and electric basically shrugged their shoulders and said pay it. I'm very surprised these electric bills arnt a bigger topic. Obviously something isn't right 

[ALF]

Called NYSEG about huge increase over last year but same usage. They said cost of natural gas almost doubled and a lot of electricity is produced by natural gas plants. Delivery costs more due to upgrade of old grid .  Exporting liquified  nat gas is more profitable due to boycott of Russian nat gas. New smart meter is not the problem. 

[Shamrock]

Don’t visit Australia then!

 

We sell gas to Japan, made an energy guarantee deal. They don’t pay tax on 56% of the gas they get. They have so much they can re-sell to Korea and Taiwan, oh, and they sell it back to us! 
 

Our government sux.

[Steptide]

5 hours ago, ALF said:

Called NYSEG about huge increase over last year but same usage. They said cost of natural gas almost doubled and a lot of electricity is produced by natural gas plants. Delivery costs more due to upgrade of old grid .  Exporting liquified  nat gas is more profitable due to boycott of Russian nat gas. New smart meter is not the problem. 

Problem is, natural gas isn't what's making the bills high, it's the electricity part of it. Gas really hasent gone up that much in the last few years, electricity has 

[ALF]

21 hours ago, Steptide said:

Problem is, natural gas isn't what's making the bills high, it's the electricity part of it. Gas really hasent gone up that much in the last few years, electricity has 

 

Ok this is my NYSEG bill in Niagara County  , Same usage 4/24 and 4/25 ,    $263  4/24 ,   $437  4/25

 

4/24 Gas supply $.29 per unit  ,   4/25  $.61 per unit

 

4/24 Elec supply  $.065 per KWH   4/25  $.12 per KWH

 

cost of natural gas supply doubled causing electric supply to double (approx)

 

Natural gas runs most electric supply plants.  You can shop for different suppliers at fixed or variable price thru ESCO , but delivery company stays the same , for me NYSEG  . This is just my bill as an example , your supply and delivery costs can be a lot different. I use NYSEG variable cost  electric and natural gas supplies.

 

AI Overview

In 2023, natural gas accounted for 43% of electricity generation in the United States. This makes it the single-largest source of energy used for electricity generation in the country.

Edited yesterday at 09:30 AM by ALF

[Steptide]

9 hours ago, ALF said:

 

Ok this is my NYSEG bill in Niagara County  , Same usage 4/24 and 4/25 ,    $263  4/24 ,   $437  4/25

 

4/24 Gas supply $.29 per unit  ,   4/25  $.61 per unit

 

4/24 Elec supply  $.065 per KWH   4/25  $.12 per KWH

 

cost of natural gas supply doubled causing electric supply to double (approx)

 

Natural gas runs most electric supply plants.  You can shop for different suppliers at fixed or variable price thru ESCO , but delivery company stays the same , for me NYSEG  . This is just my bill as an example , your supply and delivery costs can be a lot different. I use NYSEG variable cost  electric and natural gas supplies.

 

AI Overview

In 2023, natural gas accounted for 43% of electricity generation in the United States. This makes it the single-largest source of energy used for electricity generation in the country.

You're probably right. I'm not an expert by any means. Looking at my bills, the gas portion has stayed pretty much the same, it's the electric part that has gone through the roof. Either way it's absurd. People getting bills for thousands of dollars is crazy. Something is whack 

[TBBills Fan]

10 hours ago, ALF said:

 

Ok this is my NYSEG bill in Niagara County  , Same usage 4/24 and 4/25 ,    $263  4/24 ,   $437  4/25

 

4/24 Gas supply $.29 per unit  ,   4/25  $.61 per unit

 

4/24 Elec supply  $.065 per KWH   4/25  $.12 per KWH

 

cost of natural gas supply doubled causing electric supply to double (approx)

 

Natural gas runs most electric supply plants.  You can shop for different suppliers at fixed or variable price thru ESCO , but delivery company stays the same , for me NYSEG  . This is just my bill as an example , your supply and delivery costs can be a lot different. I use NYSEG variable cost  electric and natural gas supplies.

 

AI Overview

In 2023, natural gas accounted for 43% of electricity generation in the United States. This makes it the single-largest source of energy used for electricity generation in the country.

Just wait to you see how much your electric supply cost with NYSEG is in November, December, January and Feb. Last year it was peaking close to 30 cents per kWh

 

I have clients that don't take into account how much of their usage occurs during those months when they charge you 4-5 times more than throughout the rest of the year 

 

The smart ones do, the ones that aren't so smart are like well your fixed rate is about what I'm paying now in April, so we will ride out.  Ok good luck on that 

Edited yesterday at 07:38 PM by TBBills Fan