CincyBillsFan Posted Saturday at 11:12 PM Posted Saturday at 11:12 PM 3 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: And even more elementary than that, you should understand the difference between the meaning of the words, "would" and "could." Also, you should understand the importance of owning what you say instead of weaseling out of it through equivocation and rationalization. What I said was that not resigning Hollins would be the straw that broke the camels back, "IF and it's still a big IF, the Bills fall apart and miss he playoffs". And I believe this and am not backing away one inch. If you want to play GOTCHA go ahead and have at it but at least use the entire sentence I posted to complain about whether or not I should have said "could" instead of "would". Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Saturday at 11:35 PM Posted Saturday at 11:35 PM (edited) 18 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: What I said was that not resigning Hollins would be the straw that broke the camels back, "IF and it's still a big IF, the Bills fall apart and miss he playoffs". And I believe this and am not backing away one inch. If you want to play GOTCHA go ahead and have at it but at least use the entire sentence I posted to complain about whether or not I should have said "could" instead of "would". As in your earlier posts about Joe Brady, you have a tendency to use vague language and then change the meaning to suit the moment. It takes the form of "that's not what I meant." Edited 16 hours ago by Sierra Foothills 1 Quote
Psautcsk Posted Saturday at 11:41 PM Posted Saturday at 11:41 PM 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Of all the bad decisions and missed picks Beane has had, not re-signing Mack Hollins isn't going to be what costs him his job. From the sounds of it, they made Hollins an offer and it was Hollins's choice to head to New England. Maybe Hollins and his representative told the Bills the offer the Patriots made and Beane passed. Maybe Hollins got the offer and jumped on it. But no one can force a guy to stay if he wants to go. Maybe Hollins thought the Pats were on a different trajectory than the Bills. 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) On 11/14/2025 at 10:38 PM, steven50 said: Andree Reed was the most productive Bills receiver in history not Diggs. Diggs ranks around 5th Andre Reed never even had a back to back 1000 yard season. Diggs topped Reed's career best season twice in 4 years, and is the only Buffalo Bill with 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons. The only thing Reed has on Diggs is he played here longer. Also, over his last seven years, across 11 playoff games, reed averaged 42 YPG and had 0 touchdowns. Edited 20 hours ago by BullBuchanan 1 Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Andre Reed never even had a back to back 1000 yard season. Diggs topped Reed's career best season twice in 4 years, and is the only Buffalo Bill with 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons. The only thing Reed has on Diggs is he played here longer. Also, over his last seven years, across 11 playoff games, reed averaged 42 YPG and had 0 touchdowns. It’s quite possible I watched every game Reed played…I had no idea he never went b2b 1000 yrd seasons. Stay sober my friends Quote
The Jokeman Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said: It’s quite possible I watched every game Reed played…I had no idea he never went b2b 1000 yrd seasons. Stay sober my friends It's not soberness it's over valuing the greatness of times gone by. Everybody remembers Doug Flutie at times in 1998 but everyone wants to forget how bad he was in parts of 1998 and most of 1999. Quote
steven50 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Andre Reed never even had a back to back 1000 yard season. Diggs topped Reed's career best season twice in 4 years, and is the only Buffalo Bill with 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons. The only thing Reed has on Diggs is he played here longer. Also, over his last seven years, across 11 playoff games, reed averaged 42 YPG and had 0 touchdowns. Andree reed played 16 games a season for Buffalo, Diggs played 17 (except for 2020). That's like saying every running back that has more yards then OJ or Earl Campbell is better then they were. Andree reed was also slot receiver who made his money going across the middle in an age were he knew he would be murdered as soon as he caught the ball. No "defenseless receiver" rules back then. For ***** and giggles I googled "Best Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" and "greatest Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" You seem to be the only one in the world that ranks Diggs first. In fact Diggs shows up 3rd or 4th on most lists, not even second. Reed is in the hall of fame. Its a coin toss if Diggs will ever make it there. 2 1 Quote
LEBills Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 7 minutes ago, steven50 said: Andree reed played 16 games a season for Buffalo, Diggs played 17 (except for 2020). That's like saying every running back that has more yards then OJ or Earl Campbell is better then they were. Andree reed was also slot receiver who made his money going across the middle in an age were he knew he would be murdered as soon as he caught the ball. No "defenseless receiver" rules back then. For ***** and giggles I googled "Best Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" and "greatest Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" You seem to be the only one in the world that ranks Diggs first. In fact Diggs shows up 3rd or 4th on most lists, not even second. Reed is in the hall of fame. Its a coin toss if Diggs will ever make it there. Only 16 games in 2022 due to Damar too Diggs averaged more yards per game and a higher percentage of his qbs yards than Reed did. Reed was very good and had great longevity but I agree with Bull, Diggs was better just brief. 1 Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: It's not soberness it's over valuing the greatness of times gone by. Everybody remembers Doug Flutie at times in 1998 but everyone wants to forget how bad he was in parts of 1998 and most of 1999. No, I literally wasn’t sober during Reeds playing years. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, steven50 said: Andree reed played 16 games a season for Buffalo, Diggs played 17 (except for 2020). That's like saying every running back that has more yards then OJ or Earl Campbell is better then they were. Andree reed was also slot receiver who made his money going across the middle in an age were he knew he would be murdered as soon as he caught the ball. No "defenseless receiver" rules back then. For ***** and giggles I googled "Best Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" and "greatest Buffalo Bills wide receivers of all time" You seem to be the only one in the world that ranks Diggs first. In fact Diggs shows up 3rd or 4th on most lists, not even second. Reed is in the hall of fame. Its a coin toss if Diggs will ever make it there. He was so great that you can't even spell his name correctly. If google says it though... 1 Quote
2003Contenders Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, LEBills said: Only 16 games in 2022 due to Damar too Diggs averaged more yards per game and a higher percentage of his qbs yards than Reed did. Reed was very good and had great longevity but I agree with Bull, Diggs was better just brief. It's difficult comparing receiving stats from the modern era versus what teams were doing back in the 80s and 90s when Reed played. The passing game is far more prominent and sophisticated these days, and the rules have been changed quite a bit to help the passing game. But you point is well taken: when Diggs' heart was int it, he was one of the best receivers this organization ever had. Quote
Pete Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I’d take Moulds all day over Diggs. Elbert Domenion probably too. He averaged 27 yards a catch in 1964! 42 catches, 1139 yards, 10 TDs in a 14 game season 1 Quote
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