4th&long Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 A date that is not on his calendar, tax day. First time a former president has stood criminal trial in US history. Fun times ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Should be interesting but this is easily the weakest case against him. Given the delay tactics for the other cases, there’s a non-zero chance he’s acquitted in Manhattan and the election occurs before the more serious and easier cases against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 ⬆️ Two supporters of weaponizing the justice system against a political opponent. Aka useful idiots. TDS has broken them. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 8 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ Two supporters of weaponizing the justice system against a political opponent. Aka useful idiots. TDS has broken them. Spin it how you would like. When I sad fun times that was sarcasm. Although if he committed a crime he deserves to be prosecuted, I am not looking forward to how it will further divide the country. And with all the claims about how much the charges are helping him in the polls and getting re elected why all the crying and false claims about weaponizing the justice system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Spin it how you would like. When I sad fun times that was sarcasm. Although if he committed a crime he deserves to be prosecuted, I am not looking forward to how it will further divide the country. And with all the claims about how much the charges are helping him in the polls and getting re elected why all the crying and false claims about weaponizing the justice system? This is a stupid take. Be better, try harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Westside said: This is a stupid take. Be better, try harder. Obviously you had no answer to the question. Not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 20 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Obviously you had no answer to the question. Not surprised. That wasn’t a question, it was a stupid comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 at this point. the one thing we can all agree on: That the NY courts are a beacon for blind justice and the results will be valid and so strong they can't be appealed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 43 minutes ago, Westside said: This is a stupid take. Be better, try harder. Whatever dude? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Westside said: That wasn’t a question, it was a stupid comment. He actually did ask a stupid question. With each subsequent unprecedented indictment of a former President and presidential candidate with rising poll numbers, why do you falsely believe that the DOJ under his opponent and the blatantly partisan DA's and AG's have weaponized against him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 9 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ Two supporters of weaponizing the justice system against a political opponent. Aka useful idiots. TDS has broken them. Damn fool who didn't read comment suggesting that Trump may be ACQUITTED in the Stormy Daniels hush money trial. Why keep your mouth shut when you can post something inane 40 times a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 ⬆️ Another supporter of a weaponized justice system....to save our democracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Why do you protect corrupt politicians? Bribem would be broke if he didn’t skim his ten percent from our country and other countries as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Another of a litany of Trump smear narratives the msm keeps afloat regardless of significance or legitimacy. No doubt the same goes here, but, at least in here the salvos are fired from and at both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just to follow this⬆️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Westside said: Why do you protect corrupt politicians? Bribem would be broke if he didn’t skim his ten percent from our country and other countries as well. He scammed, defrauded NYS out of $455 million... Why do YOU protect corrupt businesspeople AND politicians? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 8:58 AM, BillsFanNC said: He actually did ask a stupid question. With each subsequent unprecedented indictment of a former President and presidential candidate with rising poll numbers, why do you falsely believe that the DOJ under his opponent and the blatantly partisan DA's and AG's have weaponized against him? There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. Just another day at the office for the ret@rded sh!tlibs on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Well you've got the commie narrative down. Congrats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 11:21 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: See below: On 3/26/2024 at 3:09 PM, US Egg said: Just to follow this⬆️ Dems are big mad about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Doc said: See below: Dems are big mad about this. They're always mad about something. Thinking about it socialists and socialist countries are the most miserable people, and for good reason. What's there to hope for? Everybody sitting around shouting party slogans at each other keeping tabs on each other making sure everyone is pretending to believe things are great. There's no incentive to do anything productive. It's the pinnacle of mediocrity. Its the democrats vision for America. Edited March 27 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 36 minutes ago, Doc said: Dems are big mad about this. Looking like Dems hoax came up aces for Trump, they thought he didn’t have any cards left to play. Queen Letitia and her jokers no doubt looking to deal out another rigged investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Doc said: See below: Dems are big mad about this. Then fork over the $455 million he defrauded? Why is he begging for money. The lawsuit must been adjudicated properly: And he is committing more fraud. $455 million is a drop in bucket with $6 billion: Why is he stressed for begging for cash. Use the $6 billion... Oh yeah... Paper kitty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Then fork over the $455 million he defrauded? Why is he begging for money. The lawsuit must been adjudicated properly: And he is committing more fraud. $455 million is a drop in bucket with $6 billion: Why is he stressed for begging for cash. Use the $6 billion... Oh yeah... Paper kitty... It wasn't. And will be overturned on appeal. That won't help in the interim. But reducing it to $175M did and he probably had that within the first week. Edited March 28 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I love how useful idiots think that billionaires have hundreds of millions just sitting around in cash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Then fork over the $455 million he defrauded? Why is he begging for money. The lawsuit must been adjudicated properly: And he is committing more fraud. $455 million is a drop in bucket with $6 billion: Why is he stressed for begging for cash. Use the $6 billion... Oh yeah... Paper kitty... That tweet is unfair. Trump isn’t a fascist. Fascism requires believing in an ideology, something that Trump is completely incapable of doing due to his crippling NPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: I love how useful idiots think that billionaires have hundreds of millions just sitting around in cash. Ex-wife Amazon chick just wrote a check for $600 million to charity. Is she not a billionaire? Come on, he's worth $6 billion? TPegs bought the Bills for $1.5 billion with a check. Of course billionaires have a 1/2 billion in cash... OR they aren't billionaires if they don't, just millionaires. I mean... This is what he's accused of, right, inflating his wealth, lying about it and making money off the fraud he claims to be. Anyway, let's just say he's just a 6 billionaire... He can't come up with 1/12 his worth in cash. I can come up with 1/12 my worth in cash. 😆 CORRECTION: NOT accused of convicted of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Ex-wife Amazon chick just wrote a check for $600 million to charity. Is she not a billionaire? Come on, he's worth $6 billion? TPegs bought the Bills for $1.5 billion with a check. Of course billionaires have a 1/2 billion in cash... OR they aren't billionaires if they don't, just millionaires. I mean... This is what he's accused of, right, inflating his wealth, lying about it and making money off the fraud he claims to be. Anyway, let's just say he's just a 6 billionaire... He can't come up with 1/12 his worth in cash. I can come up with 1/12 my worth in cash. 😆 CORRECTION: NOT accused of convicted of. I think it’s obvious he has never had as much money as he claims. That is why he has never released his taxes. The guy is obviously a fraud. I find it comical that people try to defend him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Ex-wife Amazon chick just wrote a check for $600 million to charity. Is she not a billionaire? Come on, he's worth $6 billion? TPegs bought the Bills for $1.5 billion with a check. Of course billionaires have a 1/2 billion in cash... OR they aren't billionaires if they don't, just millionaires. I mean... This is what he's accused of, right, inflating his wealth, lying about it and making money off the fraud he claims to be. Anyway, let's just say he's just a 6 billionaire... He can't come up with 1/12 his worth in cash. I can come up with 1/12 my worth in cash. 😆 CORRECTION: NOT accused of convicted of. 2 hours ago, 4th&long said: I think it’s obvious he has never had as much money as he claims. That is why he has never released his taxes. The guy is obviously a fraud. I find it comical that people try to defend him. Was she expected to cough-it-up in 30 days? And most of her money is in Amazon stock, not real estate. Far easier to sell fairly quickly. Anyway, if you remain unconvinced, check out what Mark Cuban (no fan of Trump) said about billionaires having half a billion in cash on hand. In short, they don't have it and need time to get it, and more than 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, 4th&long said: I think it’s obvious he has never had as much money as he claims. That is why he has never released his taxes. The guy is obviously a fraud. I find it comical that people try to defend him. And that's why there's a judgement against him. Illegally making money on lies. Confidence game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: And that's why there's a judgement against him. Illegally making money on lies. Confidence game. Trump University! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Was she expected to cough-it-up in 30 days? And most of her money is in Amazon stock, not real estate. Far easier to sell fairly quickly. Anyway, if you remain unconvinced, check out what Mark Cuban (no fan of Trump) said about billionaires having half a billion in cash on hand. In short, they don't have it and need time to get it, and more than 30 days. Too bad... Boo hoo. How long has this case dragged on. They ruled on it before October he defrauded NYS... The recent ruling was just the penalty stage. He had years. Failing to plan is planning to fail. I am just a simple dick. I can access, or someone will bond me for 1/12 of my net worth. 125 dolla ain't much! LoL... Edited March 28 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Too bad... Boo hoo. How long has this case dragged on. They they ruled in before October he defrauded NYS... The recent ruling was just the penalty stage. He had years. Failing to plan is planning to fail. I am just a simple dick. I can access, or someone will bond me for 1/12 of my net worth. 125 dolla ain't much! LoL... I'm still confused by this entire case. What loss did NYS incur as a result of being "defrauded"? This appears to be a crime without a victim. Edited March 28 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm still confused by this entire case. What loss did NYS incur as a result of being "defrauded"? This appears to be a crime without a victim. This can't become standard practice: "There's dusk and dawn, and then there's night and day," University of Michigan business law professor Will Thomas said. "The attorney general will probably push back by saying even if these were sophisticated actors, this behavior was so transparently fraudulent that it can't be standard practice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm still confused by this entire case. What loss did NYS incur as a result of being "defrauded"? This appears to be a crime without a victim. Did you look it up? What laws apply to this and why they were written? Or are you one of those people that doesn’t understand something and just ***** about it and tries to say the doj has been weaponized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Too bad... Boo hoo. How long has this case dragged on. They ruled on it before October he defrauded NYS... The recent ruling was just the penalty stage. He had years. Failing to plan is planning to fail. I am just a simple dick. I can access, or someone will bond me for 1/12 of my net worth. 125 dolla ain't much! LoL... No need to cry for Trump. The reduction to $175M was a boon for him. 59 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This can't become standard practice: "There's dusk and dawn, and then there's night and day," University of Michigan business law professor Will Thomas said. "The attorney general will probably push back by saying even if these were sophisticated actors, this behavior was so transparently fraudulent that it can't be standard practice." LOL! A "business law professor" opining shows you the difference between theory and practice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: Did you look it up? What laws apply to this and why they were written? Or are you one of those people that doesn’t understand something and just ***** about it and tries to say the doj has been weaponized? I understand clearly. Maybe you don't. There is no victim. The State of New York was not defrauded. They lost nothing. They weren't even a party to the arrangement and I'd argue in a civil case the State doesn't even have legal standing to bring the case as a plaintiff. The banks holding the loans were not defrauded. In fact, they provided testimony FOR the defense. They lost nothing. But the Judge would have none of that. In civil cases plaintiffs are compensated for damages along with penalty judgments. The banks claim no harm so does the State get the money? For what? Seriously, on appeal this case is going to get thrown out. For the rationale I say and then some. I wouldn't surprised if the Judge and Prosecutor get censured by the court on top of it. And then Trump is going to sue the Judge, the Prosecutor, and the State of NY and those idiots are going to cost the taxpayers millions in judgments. What do they care? Its not Leticia's money. If you're a resident of NYS its coming out of your pocket. Otherwise, in the future, if mis-representing the value of your property on business records, in this case a loan application is a crime, then everybody that fills out and signs a home equity loan application that estimates the value of their home is more than the bank's appraiser says its worth is committing a "crime" in the State of NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I understand clearly. Maybe you don't. There is no victim. The State of New York was not defrauded. They lost nothing. They weren't even a party to the arrangement and I'd argue in a civil case the State doesn't even have legal standing to bring the case as a plaintiff. The banks holding the loans were not defrauded. In fact, they provided testimony FOR the defense. They lost nothing. But the Judge would have none of that. In civil cases plaintiffs are compensated for damages along with penalty judgments. The banks claim no harm so does the State get the money? For what? Seriously, on appeal this case is going to get thrown out. For the rationale I say and then some. I wouldn't surprised if the Judge and Prosecutor get censured by the court on top of it. And then Trump is going to sue the Judge, the Prosecutor, and the State of NY and those idiots are going to cost the taxpayers millions in judgments. What do they care? Its not Leticia's money. If you're a resident of NYS its coming out of your pocket. Otherwise, in the future, if mis-representing the value of your property on business records, in this case a loan application is a crime, then everybody that fills out and signs a home equity loan application that estimates the value of their home is more than the bank's appraiser says its worth is committing a "crime" in the State of NY. We’ll see how it plays out. I would doubt they would charge him and a judge rule against him if he didn’t break a law. I could be wrong of course. He will have his day in court again, and again and again and again and again and again and again. Your post will be brought back up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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