newcam2012 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Augie said: OUCH! That really stings! 😂 Tell me, who do you replace McD with? Why are they a slam dunk to get better results than the guy with the best winning % in franchise history? Sell me. Please try. Without a solution it’s just more whining. Do you realize that it’s the same few posters going round in circles here? Augie, I think you can lead this Bills team to a playoff birth. Just ride Josh Allen and you will do just as well or better than McD. See the point? A little bit of coaching competence is all it takes. Just now, newcam2012 said: Augie, I think you can lead this Bills team to a playoff birth. Just ride Josh Allen and you will do just as well or better than McD. See the point? A little bit of coaching competence is all it takes. Wlima Flintstone or a pet rock might even get the job done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, newcam2012 said: Augie, I think you can lead this Bills team to a playoff birth. Just ride Josh Allen and you will do just as well or better than McD. See the point? A little bit of coaching competence is all it takes. you beat me too it, I was going to say I can probably lead them to the playoffs with Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Can I mute or block him? If on a computer, just hover the mouse cursor over his name near his trademark vomit smily and a popup box will appear with the option to ignore him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) McDermott has a .640 all time win percentage just behind Andy Reid .641. McDermott’s win percentage is better than Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Bill Cower, Sean McVay, Pete Carroll, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells just to name to a few. He took over a losing culture and we have been a consistent winner since. Lesser coaches have been able to win the Super Bowl so there is no reason to think that he could not win it. Only 1 team wins in the end each year and it takes playing your best at the end of season, a few bounces to go your way and to be relatively healthy. It is not like he has been unable to win in the playoffs as he has essentially been beaten by Andy Reid and the Chiefs most years. So if the Chiefs want to swap Reid for McDermott, sure I’ll do it but that ain’t happening. The chances of actually getting an upgrade to McDermott are slim. The team is much more likely to take a step back rather than finding the coach that can actually outcoach Reid. Sure McDermott can be rigid at times, but more often than not he is able to adapt and correct mistakes. I think he has some degree of self awareness and he has improved as a coach. He was aggressive during the Chiefs game and other than who actually carried the ball on the fake punt, I had no issues with his coaching performance. Essentially, our big time players like Diggs, Oliver and Cook failed to make enough plays and we lost by 3 points having a completely depleted defense on the back 7. It is disappointing losing to the Chiefs again, but realistically most every other team in the league has done so too in the last 5-6 years. I thought the team rallied around McDermott this year and that showed me something. I understand the frustration but it really makes no sense to get rid of the bird in hand that has this team as a contender year in and year out. Edited January 24 by racketmaster 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Augie said: OUCH! That really stings! 😂 Tell me, who do you replace McD with? Why are they a slam dunk to get better results than the guy with the best winning % in franchise history? Sell me. Please try. Without a solution it’s just more whining. Do you realize that it’s the same few posters going round in circles here? Belichick - 6 Super Bowl wins 9 Super Bowl appearances. He is also a better DC than Sean. Harbaugh - took the 49ers to the Super Bowl. Won a National Championship at Michigan. These are two coaches who would be an upgrade over Sean. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, phypon said: If on a computer, just hover the mouse cursor over his name near his trademark vomit smily and a popup box will appear with the option to ignore him. How about on an android phone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: I though you were leaving, why do you keep coming back????? I’m free to go where I like, when I like. Right now you’re amusing me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: How about on an android phone? Not sure on that one. I'm only using the computer here. Maybe a long press on his name?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, racketmaster said: McDermott has a .640 all time win percentage just behind Andy Reid .641. McDermott’s win percentage is better than Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Bill Cower, Sean McVay, Pete Carroll, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells just to name to a few. He took over a losing culture and we have been a consistent winner since. Lesser coaches have been on the Super Bowl so there is no reason to think that he could not win it. Only 1 team wins in the end each year and it takes playing your best at the end of season, a few bounces to go your way and to be relatively healthy. It is not like he has been u able to win in the playoffs as he has essentially been beaten by Andy Reid and the Chiefs most years. So if the Chiefs want to swap Reid for McDermott, sure I’ll do it but that ain’t happening. The chances of actually getting an upgrade to McDermott are slim. The team is much more likely to take a step back rather than finding the coach that can actually outcoach Reid. Sure McDermott can be rigid at times, but more often than not he is able to adapt and correct mistakes. I think he has some degree of self awareness and he has improved as a coach. He was aggressive during the Chiefs game and other than who actually carried the ball on the fake punt, I had no issues with his coaching performance. Essentially, our big time players like Diggs, Oliver and Cook failed to make enough plays and we lost by 3 points having a completely depleted defense on the back 7. It is disappointing losing to the Chiefs again, but realistically most every other team in the league has done so too in the last 5-6 years. I thought the team rallied around McDermott this year and that showed me something. I understand the frustration but it really makes no sense to get rid of the bird in hand that has this team as a contender year in and year out. Marvin Lewis..... Just now, Augie said: I’m free to go where I like, when I like. Right now you’re amusing me. are you, are you on drugs? You said you were leaving, you know what, nevermind. Im done with you. Its like talking to a child at this point....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: Belichick - 6 Super Bowl wins 9 Super Bowl appearances. He is also a better DC than Sean. Harbaugh - took the 49ers to the Super Bowl. Won a National Championship at Michigan. These are two coaches who would be an upgrade over Sean. Belichick is a no, in my book. Too old, he’d want control he should not have, and I just don’t like him. He’s just trying to get another 15 wins or whatever to pass Shula. You are not building anything with that. Harbaugh will get you wins. He will also wear you out. I don’t see him as a long term solution, but I’ll give you that he will win. At least, I expect him to. 4 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: are you, are you on drugs? You said you were leaving, you know what, nevermind. Im done with you. It’s like talking to a child at this point....... Yes. Yes it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, zow2 said: ESPN Get Up is still discussing the Bills failures this morning, Lol. The crew remain in disbelief as to how Buffalo didn't win that game. One person said its unreal that Poyer and Hyde will leave the Bills without a Super Bowl Championship there. Crazy eh. Then again it’s the defense that has let the team down in the games we been eliminated so it’s kind of on Hyde and Poyers shoulders as well. 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 minutes ago, racketmaster said: McDermott has a .640 all time win percentage just behind Andy Reid .641. McDermott’s win percentage is better than Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Bill Cower, Sean McVay, Pete Carroll, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells just to name to a few. He took over a losing culture and we have been a consistent winner since. Lesser coaches have been able to win the Super Bowl so there is no reason to think that he could not win it. Only 1 team wins in the end each year and it takes playing your best at the end of season, a few bounces to go your way and to be relatively healthy. It is not like he has been unable to win in the playoffs as he has essentially been beaten by Andy Reid and the Chiefs most years. So if the Chiefs want to swap Reid for McDermott, sure I’ll do it but that ain’t happening. The chances of actually getting an upgrade to McDermott are slim. The team is much more likely to take a step back rather than finding the coach that can actually outcoach Reid. Sure McDermott can be rigid at times, but more often than not he is able to adapt and correct mistakes. I think he has some degree of self awareness and he has improved as a coach. He was aggressive during the Chiefs game and other than who actually carried the ball on the fake punt, I had no issues with his coaching performance. Essentially, our big time players like Diggs, Oliver and Cook failed to make enough plays and we lost by 3 points having a completely depleted defense on the back 7. It is disappointing losing to the Chiefs again, but realistically most every other team in the league has done so too in the last 5-6 years. I thought the team rallied around McDermott this year and that showed me something. I understand the frustration but it really makes no sense to get rid of the bird in hand that has this team as a contender year in and year out. Making valid points will get you nowhere with this crowd. Sorry. It has been decided. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Augie said: Making valid points will get you nowhere with this crowd. Sorry. It has been decided. 🤷♂️ Marvin Lewis..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: I failed to mention that the Bills D line was as healthy as it's been all year. They failed to take advantage of the weaker KC tackles. They produced zero sacks on Mahomes and very limited pressure. In the second half, the Chiefs oline did a very good job with their run blocking schemes. Pacheco was quite successful running the ball vsca healthy Bills front. In essence, the Chiefs Oline was mostly successful vs the Bills healthy Dline. Everyone wants to talk about injuries which is true. However, the Bills Dline also failed to step up. This really hasn't been discussed much. Who is in charge of the defense? That's obvious but make your case for McD staying. I mean there is one to be made even if I disagree. Only one way that happens. I agree that our DL didn’t step up, but stopping run requires more than 4 guys. KC loaded the box to stop our run in 2nd half. Those 7 for KC, and the other 4, were healthy. You can call it an excuse but the D we put out there on game day would’ve lost us the games with Fish and Stillers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Marvin Lewis..... Would you like to expand on this? What about him? Are you pointing out that he had a .518 career winning percentage? Significantly lower than McD at .640. Do you want to point out that Lewis was 0-7 in the playoffs? I wish McD had a few more playoff wins, but he is 5-6, which says he belongs while it appears Lewis did not. You made me guess what your point is. That’s what I see regarding Marvin Lewis. I don’t see how that helps your case in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, racketmaster said: McDermott has a .640 all time win percentage just behind Andy Reid .641. McDermott’s win percentage is better than Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Bill Cower, Sean McVay, Pete Carroll, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells just to name to a few. He took over a losing culture and we have been a consistent winner since. Lesser coaches have been on the Super Bowl so there is no reason to think that he could not win it. Only 1 team wins in the end each year and it takes playing your best at the end of season, a few bounces to go your way and to be relatively healthy. It is not like he has been u able to win in the playoffs as he has essentially been beaten by Andy Reid and the Chiefs most years. So if the Chiefs want to swap Reid for McDermott, sure I’ll do it but that ain’t happening. The chances of actually getting an upgrade to McDermott are slim. The team is much more likely to take a step back rather than finding the coach that can actually outcoach Reid. Sure McDermott can be rigid at times, but more often than not he is able to adapt and correct mistakes. I think he has some degree of self awareness and he has improved as a coach. He was aggressive during the Chiefs game and other than who actually carried the ball on the fake punt, I had no issues with his coaching performance. Essentially, our big time players like Diggs, Oliver and Cook failed to make enough plays and we lost by 3 points having a completely depleted defense on the back 7. It is disappointing losing to the Chiefs again, but realistically most every other team in the league has done so too in the last 5-6 years. I thought the team rallied around McDermott this year and that showed me something. I understand the frustration but it really makes no sense to get rid of the bird in hand that has this team as a contender year in and year out. That's a fair point of view. I disagree with it but it's fair. There is ample evidence to think McD can't get us there. Of course, no one can predict what will happen. But one just can't ignore the facts. Also, I'm not afraid of a coaching change. I think it's flawed to think another coach wouldn't be as successful. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Augie said: All we have done is win since he arrived. He took the Bills to the playoffs prior to Josh arriving while ending the drought. He’s won the AFCE for four straight years. He has the highest winning percentage of ANY coach in franchise history. I don’t like whiney people who constantly need instant gratification. Lol, going into year 8 with no resolution in sight is instant gratification, hahahaha................whatever. What is your answer to getting over the hump and how long should this take? You won't answer because you don't have a viable answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The last game the defensive line made 0 tackles. With my eyes I see the same defensive line play over and over and never getting to Mahomes. Perhaps we needed someone to recognize the situation and try different things to help the line. More stunts, blitzes etc - anything to put more pressure on Mahomes and/or make a tackle. Time for a new defensive coordinator and to make McDermott function as Marv Levy who was a special teams guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, LarryMadman said: Lol, going into year 8 with no resolution in sight is instant gratification, hahahaha................whatever. What is your answer to getting over the hump and how long should this take? You won't answer because you don't have a viable answer! We are close, we just keep trying, IMO. We have been unfortunate in timing, as Andy Reid and the Chiefs are formidable competition in a big picture sense. I honestly hope Reid wins one more ring and retires, as has been talked about some. It’s true, we lost to the defending SB Champs by 3 points at home in the Divisional round of the playoffs. We missed a fairly easy FG to cement the loss. Sometimes in life $%#& happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Instant gratification? We Bills fans have been more than patient under McD. ESPN right now is talking about how they can't believe Poyer and Hyde don't have rings. The Bills team has lost 3 straight divisional playoff round games. McD is 5-6 in the playoffs and dismal past the wild card round. All this with Josh Allen. Come on man All the regular season wins and AFC East titles are secondary to playoff success. Sure it's a nice consolation prize if you will. Sure it makes regular season football fun to watch. Definitely a plus! If that's your goal then under McD Bills football is more enjoyable and successful. If your goal is to see a super bowl and win one then that's a whole different story. I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether McD can led his team to this path. The evidence is getting stronger and stronger that he can't. Just look at his playoff history. The Bengals and Burrow own the Bills The Chiefs and Mahomes own the Bills. McD and Beane have had no answers to beat either team come playoff time. News flash! Those teams aren't going anywhere. Soon Harbaugh and Chargers will own McD If Rodgers was healthy, the Jets and Saleh would own McD Payton and Denver will soon own McD Seems as though Jax owns McD and soon Houston with Ryans will own McD There is no end in sight to the playoff arse kickings with Mcd and unfortunatly Josh Allen will be the one who gets all the blame for not being able to win. The ship sailed at the end of .13 seconds and after a couple more failures it is pretty cemented McD is not the guy going forward. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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