Trump is incentivizing Putin to meddle (again) in 2024

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 10/30/2023 at 12:53 PM, Tiberius said:

Trump wants to be a tin horn dictator, that's obvious 

"Tin horn dictator" 😂.  Are you watching Bonanza reruns again? 

[BillStime]

22 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Back to the Russian narrative for the conspiracy folks

 

Then even tries to put a Russian spin on the validity of operation crossfire hurricane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hoax 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Back to the Russian narrative for the conspiracy folks

 

Then even tries to put a Russian spin on the validity of operation crossfire hurricane.

 

On 10/30/2023 at 1:38 PM, Doc said:

 

[Unforgiven]

[TSOL]

A take so hot you need oven mitts to open this thread. 

[B-Man]

I don’t know why anyone is surprised. 
 

Billslime rotates his Trump threads nightly, whether there is anything newsworthy or not. 
 

 

 

[Tiberius]

17 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

"Tin horn dictator" 😂.  Are you watching Bonanza reruns again? 

Bored yesterday? 

 

Did any people of color ever appear on Bonanza? 

[Tommy Callahan]

Greene was born Lyon Himan Green in Ottawa, Ontario,[2] to Jewish immigrants from the Russian Empire, Dora (née Grinovsky) and Daniel Green, a shoemaker

 

Landon was born Eugene Maurice Orowitz on October 31, 1936, in Forest Hills, a neighborhood of Queens, New York.[2][3] His parents were Peggy (née O'Neill; a dancer and comedian) and Eli Maurice Orowitz.

 

Blocker was drafted into the United States Army during the Korean War. He had basic training at Fort Polk, Louisiana, and served as an infantry sergeant in F Company, 2nd Battalion, 179th Infantry Regiment, 45th Infantry Division in Korea, from December 1951 to August 1952. He received a Purple Heart for wounds in combat.[4][5][6]

In addition to the Purple Heart, Blocker received the National Defense Service Medal, Korean Service Medal with two bronze campaign stars, Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation, United Nations Service Medal, Korean War Service Medal, and Combat Infantryman Badge.

 

Pernell Elven Roberts Jr. (May 18, 1928 – January 24, 2010) was an American stage, film, and television actor, activist, and singer. In addition to guest-starring in over 60 television series, he was best known for his roles as Ben Cartwright's eldest son Adam Cartwright on the Western television series Bonanza (1959–1965), and as chief surgeon Dr. John McIntyre, the title character on Trapper John, M.D. (1979–1986).[2][3]

Roberts was also known for his lifelong activism, which included participation in the Selma to Montgomery marches in 1965[2] and pressuring NBC to refrain from hiring White people to portray minority characters.

 

Victor Sen Young (born Victor Cheung Young or Sen Yew Cheung;

 

immigrants, vets, minorities. 

 

Just not the correct ones?

[Tiberius]

Trump and Putin 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/11/30/biden-foreign-disinformation-social-media-election-interference/

 

The U.S. federal government has stopped warning some social networks about foreign disinformation campaigns on their platforms, reversing a years-long approach to preventing Russia and other actors from interfering in American politics less than a year before the U.S. presidential elections, according to company officials.

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Meta no longer receives notifications of global influence campaigns from the Biden administration, halting a prolonged partnership between the federal government and the world’s largest social media company, senior security officials said Wednesday. Federal agencies have also stopped communicating about political disinformation with Pinterest, according to the company.

The developments underscore the far-reaching impact of a conservative legal campaign against initiatives established to avoid a repeat of the 2016 election, when Russia manipulated social media in an attempt to sow chaos and swing the vote for Donald Trump.

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

The usual voices already laying the groundwork for a grand conspiracy 

[BillStime]

Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

The usual voices already laying the groundwork for a grand conspiracy 

 

Trump: ‘I don’t see any reason why’ Russia would have interfered with election

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 11/17/2023 at 8:10 AM, Tiberius said:

Bored yesterday? 

 

Did any people of color ever appear on Bonanza? 

How did I miss this gem on 11/17? 🤣

 

Ben Cartwright didn’t see color, ya sick b*stard!  

[Tiberius]

25 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

How did I miss this gem on 11/17? 🤣

 

Ben Cartwright didn’t see color, ya sick b*stard!  

So that's a no? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

46 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So that's a no? 

I think the Irish scoundrel Callahan answered that for you above, ya tin horn sodbuster!  
 

Ironically, the show was considered a trailblazer as it was filmed in color at a time when most shows were exclusively offered in black and white. 🤯
 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Tiberius]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I think the Irish scoundrel Callahan answered that for you above, ya tin horn sodbuster!  
 

Ironically, the show was considered a trailblazer as it was filmed in color at a time when most shows were exclusively offered in black and white. 🤯
 

 

Ya, it was colored alright, white washed. As was most TV and movies 

 

The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke,  is unreal. Matt Dillion must have killed over a thousand men over the life of the show. The Rifleman was another one 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, it was colored alright, white washed. As was most TV and movies 

 

The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke,  is unreal. Matt Dillion must have killed over a thousand men over the life of the show. The Rifleman was another one 

Of course they were unreal, ya goober, you’re talking about television shows of the 1970s.   Not much has changed, or are you still thinking Queen Latifah actually is a former CIA dark ops specialist on The Equalizer? 
 

I’ll regret asking this, but what got ya focused on the casting decisions of network television circa 1950s-1975?  
 

Btw—as far as I can recall, I first heard the term “sodbuster” on The Rifleman and was thinking of that show when I used it earlier.  

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Of course they were unreal, ya goober, you’re talking about television shows of the 1970s.   Not much has changed, or are you still thinking Queen Latifah actually is a former CIA dark ops specialist on The Equalizer? 
 

I’ll regret asking this, but what got ya focused on the casting decisions of network television circa 1950s-1975?  
 

Btw—as far as I can recall, I first heard the term “sodbuster” on The Rifleman and was thinking of that show when I used it earlier.  

Not much has changed? That's silly in the extreme 

 

I'm into history, and films, tv series etc are interesting for their entertainment value and the historical situation they were created in. I love TCM 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Not much has changed? That's silly in the extreme 

 

I'm into history, and films, tv series etc are interesting for their entertainment value and the historical situation they were created in. I love TCM 

TV shows then were mostly unreal. TV shows today are mostly unreal.  It’s neither silly, nor extreme.  
 

Thanks for the explanation…that stuff doesn’t really do much for me, but I can see why it might be of interest to others.  

[Tiberius]

10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

TV shows then were mostly unreal. TV shows today are mostly unreal.  It’s neither silly, nor extreme.  
 

Thanks for the explanation…that stuff doesn’t really do much for me, but I can see why it might be of interest to others.  

I think you meant to say they are/were "unrealistic." I assure you they are "real," as they exist as artistic expression of the writers, actors and producers. 

 

Did Laurel and Hardy or Seinfeld represent "real life"? No, but so what, they are funny. Did the movie "Casablanca" represent a real war time situation? Not at all, but it was good drama with great acting, a good story with plot twists, and when Elsa Young calls Sam the black piano player a "boy" you really see how race relations played out in Hollywood. The movie Midway, one of my favs, was from the 1970's, and while it is telling the basic story of how the battle unfolded, it adds sympathetic section on a Navy fighter pilot who fell in love with a Japanese girl. Compare that to how the Japanese were depicted during the war, and it is interesting to many people. 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

 

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

I think you meant to say they are/were "unrealistic." I assure you they are "real," as they exist as artistic expression of the writers, actors and producers. 

 

Did Laurel and Hardy or Seinfeld represent "real life"? No, but so what, they are funny. Did the movie "Casablanca" represent a real war time situation? Not at all, but it was good drama with great acting, a good story with plot twists, and when Elsa Young calls Sam the black piano player a "boy" you really see how race relations played out in Hollywood. The movie Midway, one of my favs, was from the 1970's, and while it is telling the basic story of how the battle unfolded, it adds sympathetic section on a Navy fighter pilot who fell in love with a Japanese girl. Compare that to how the Japanese were depicted during the war, and it is interesting to many people. 

No, I didn't mean unrealistic.  This is what you said:

 

The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke,  is unreal. 

 

I replied in kind.  I don't ascribe to the theory you've shared in the rest of this post, but I can sort of understand the philosophical approach you've taken here in a movie setting.   On the other hand, I think the sympathy aspect of a fictional Japanese woman in love with a fictional Japanese girl during WW2 is to a certain extent, pandering. 

 

By the way--I used to love going to the cinema.  My wife and I enjoyed the escape, the suspension of reality and getting immersed in a good story.  Over the past few years, that's faded.  Could be because I'm older, of course, but listening to some of the actors/directors as 'activists' has tempered all that for me.  

 

We saw "Friends of the Hollow Moon" or whatever the Deniro/DeCaprio movie was called a few weeks back.  Someone set off  a fire alarm with about 15-20 minutes left and to be honest, fleeing the theater was probably the highlight of the movie for me.   On the other hand, we saw "The Holdovers" and liked it very much.  

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

No, I didn't mean unrealistic.  This is what you said:

 

The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke,  is unreal. 

 

 

So you took my specific example of me saying Matt Dillion killing a thousand people to be "unreal" and applied it to the whole genre? If you are going to copy me, at least do it correctly. 

16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

 

I   I don't ascribe to the theory you've shared in the rest of this post, but I can sort of understand the philosophical approach you've taken here in a movie setting.  

So you don't think the "theory"--it's not a theory--that Seinfeld can just be funny but it does not have to be realistic? Huh? Can you expand on that? 

18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

  On the other hand, I think the sympathy aspect of a fictional Japanese woman in love with a fictional Japanese girl during WW2 is to a certain extent, pandering. 

 

 

So what? Art, especially commercial art, is to an extent pandering. You have never watched a movie, tv show or documentary and enjoyed it because it suit your tastes, ideas or beliefs? If you say no, you are lying. Do you complain about how they pandered to your tastes? 

 

[Tiberius]

20 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

 

By the way--I used to love going to the cinema.  My wife and I enjoyed the escape, the suspension of reality and getting immersed in a good story.  Over the past few years, that's faded.  Could be because I'm older, of course, but listening to some of the actors/directors as 'activists' has tempered all that for me.  

 

 

Sounds like you don't like the new way writers create the art, and that would explain why you reacted to my reference to how minorities where written out of history in the old shows--which I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that was when you liked movies? You did like them, now you don't. Right? 

24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

 

We saw "Friends of the Hollow Moon" or whatever the Deniro/DeCaprio movie was called a few weeks back.  Someone set off  a fire alarm with about 15-20 minutes left and to be honest, fleeing the theater was probably the highlight of the movie for me.   On the other hand, we saw "The Holdovers" and liked it very much.  

Have not seen either. Didn't go to the Barbie movie? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you took my specific example of me saying Matt Dillion killing a thousand people to be "unreal" and applied it to the whole genre? If you are going to copy me, at least do it correctly. 

There is no conspiracy afoot to use the words you used to get ya.  If you didn't want to use the words you used, you should have used other, better words. 

 

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you don't think the "theory"--it's not a theory--that Seinfeld can just be funny but it does not have to be realistic? Huh? Can you expand on that? 

I think Seinfeld was a funny show, I still watch it.  I don't think it was real.  I think it was unrealistic, but only in the sense that it wasn't real people being filmed.  I do believe that 4 people could live in NYC, interact with themselves and others and hilarity could ensue.

 

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So what? Art, especially commercial art, is to an extent pandering. You have never watched a movie, tv show or documentary and enjoyed it because it suit your tastes, ideas or beliefs? If you say no, you are lying. Do you complain about how they pandered to your tastes? 

Interestingly, you sound an awful lot like Seinfeld's Mr. Bookman, Library Cop, here. 

 

I have watched shows that pander. I have enjoyed movies and tv shows that suited my tastes, ideas and beliefs.  If this fractures our relationship perhaps we were doomed from the start, like the guys in Sons of Anarchy (who are really just a couple guys who went to middle school in places like Council Bluffs, Iowa, or Sioux City Falls, SD). 

 

I don't complain because my wife won't listen.  

 

Thank you. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Sounds like you don't like the new way writers create the art, and that would explain why you reacted to my reference to how minorities where written out of history in the old shows--which I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that was when you liked movies? You did like them, now you don't. Right? 

Have not seen either. Didn't go to the Barbie movie? 

I thought when you introduced 1950s-era television casting decisions, I thought it was a very odd thing to do.  Like, let's say I was at a football game and complained about the officiating, and you said "Hey, Rosa Parks seemed like a real nice lady, huh?".  

 

Now that you mention it, no, I don't think minorities were "written out" of those old shows, I think minorities were never written in.  I think applying the standards of today to something that took place 60 years ago will almost lead to the same place, and that is this:  It wasn't like that then.  Chances are pretty high that if you, Tibsy himself, were part of the decision-making team back then, you would have made similar choices and not worried a lick about anyone or anything else. 

 

I didn't watch Barbie. I had no desire to watch Barbie.  I don't think I was the intended audience when Barbie was produced.  I think that's ok. 

[wnyguy]

16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

Btw—as far as I can recall, I first heard the term “sodbuster” on The Rifleman and was thinking of that show when I used it earlier.  

I remember the bad guy having a knife sheathed at the back of his neck below his hat. He would rub his chin which would allow his hand to be close to the knife and in a split second would be able to send the knife flying towards it's target. Good old Lucas McCain was somehow wise to the trick and as the bad guy started rubbing his chin the bad guy said, "Sodbuster just don't mind his own business," but before he could release his knife Lucas decked him with left hook.

[BillStime]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

No evidence presented.  Truth likely is Putin prefers ineffective senile old dummy Biden for second term as US becomes joke.

Edited December 19, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

9 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

No evidence presented.  Truth likely is Putin prefers ineffective senile old dummy Biden for second term as US becomes joke.

Sure he does:

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

29 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Sure he does:

 

So does a photo of Biden and Xi prove he sold us out to China?  Those are out there too.  Reality is that It's standard practice from US administrations, President, members of the cabinet and department of State, to meet and discuss issues with foreign officials, friend or foe alike and inferring some nefarious action is reaching. 

[BillStime]

48 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

So does a photo of Biden and Xi prove he sold us out to China?  Those are out there too.  Reality is that It's standard practice from US administrations, President, members of the cabinet and department of State, to meet and discuss issues with foreign officials, friend or foe alike and inferring some nefarious action is reaching. 

Your story is just not convincing - but it’s a very cute right wing talking point! 
 

But yes - keep bailing out Trump. The POS traitor praises Putin and “believes” Putin over our own intelligence.

 

 

 

PS: You do realize the only one fn praising Xi or China is this POS:

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillStime]

Conald best be careful...

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[Unforgiven]

Removing a candidate from ballots sounds ALOT more like meddling.

Just like hiding the Biden allegations. 

Stuffing ballot boxes..etc etc etc

 

Smells like alot of FEAR to me.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Unforgiven

[BillStime]

He's hoping and praying...

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Lmao 

 

Blue anon firing up this gem again.  

 

And they wonder why everyone laughs at them 

Edited January 23 by Tommy Callahan

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

He's hoping and praying...

 

 

More fuel for your fire.  If there is an attack I say it with 100% certainty you'll blame Trump for it.  Am I right?  It couldn't have anything to do with years after year of millions of unvetted border crossers under President Blunder. 

On 12/19/2023 at 9:02 AM, BillStime said:

Your story is just not convincing - but it’s a very cute right wing talking point! 
 

But yes - keep bailing out Trump. The POS traitor praises Putin and “believes” Putin over our own intelligence.

 

 

 

PS: You do realize the only one fn praising Xi or China is this POS:

 

You're the one making anecdotal associations between Trump and Putin without any specific facts or rational motive and my story is just not convincing?  

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

More fuel for your fire.  If there is an attack I say it with 100% certainty you'll blame Trump for it.  Am I right?  It couldn't have anything to do with years after year of millions of unvetted border crossers under President Blunder. 

You're the one making anecdotal associations between Trump and Putin without any specific facts or rational motive and my story is just not convincing?  

Who is causing all the terror in the Middle East and Ukraine?

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Wait.  For real blue anon is trying to dig this boondoggle of a narrative back?