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26 minutes ago, boyst said:

this proves my point. your viewpoint is firm and your thoughts are not able to be discussed. you would rather talk and speak than listen or work to find a solution.

 

this is the reason why society is failing. you are a part of the problem we face in this world. incase the emphasis isn't strong enough. YOU are the biggest part of the problem with this country. YOU AND EVERYONE LIKE YOU. thankfully, there are very few of you. sadly, you're the most vocal.


I have solutions. Many people have solutions. The solutions have all been dismissed as “anti-constitutional” 

20 minutes ago, aristocrat said:


based on reports this guy should have been kept in a mental hospital. Drug companies don’t want institutions open cause it might cost them money. Open em up 


Agreed. I’m all for more institutionalization with proper oversight so we don’t have another Suffer the Little Children situation.

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10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


The nra didn’t certify this guy fit to carry deadly weapons and train him to be a killer. Your savior government did. 
 

There is a significant problem here when our own government purported to have solutions for this is this complicit in this type of insanity. 
 

 

Oh no, they just made it easy for a crazy, Hamas style murderer, to get a weapon of mass murder, that's all 

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8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

 

Actual mass shooting database.  hundreds this year.

 

Noticed the spammer above didn't even reference the majority of them.

 

Why?  politics?  Race of victim?

 

 

 

 

 

oh #$%# off - I went to Wikipedia and listed them as they had them - gtfoh

 

 

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2 hours ago, Roundybout said:


“the government made him a schizophrenic” is just an incredible take. Way to go, buddy. 
 

I take it you’re one of the people who likes to wear a cowboy hat and pretend they’re gonna fight the war of independence? 

You don't live in reality do u?

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh no, they just made it easy for a crazy, Hamas style murderer, to get a weapon of mass murder, that's all 


and the government you love to tell you what to do trained him and sanctioned him as fit for access to military weapons. You want to blame a lobbying group? The government is directly responsible for this. 

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


and the government you love to tell you what to do trained him and sanctioned him as fit for access to military weapons. You want to blame a lobbying group? The government is directly responsible for this. 

Guns don't kill, the government does! 

 

Stupid 

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4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


and the government you love to tell you what to do trained him and sanctioned him as fit for access to military weapons. You want to blame a lobbying group? The government is directly responsible for this. 


This genuinely makes no sense. Please go outside. 

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7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I suspect a lot of gun people talk tough about what they would do in an active shooter situation.  But if you think about it, if you pull your gun out and start shooting, everyone else with a gun is going to think you're the shooter and shoot you.  

Interesting.  I never considered this aspect. 

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5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


and the government you love to tell you what to do trained him and sanctioned him as fit for access to military weapons. You want to blame a lobbying group? The government is directly responsible for this. 

 

Not only do you hate yourself and everything about your life - you hate this country.

 

GTFOH - go - go to North Korea where one size fits all - you'll fit in perfectly.

 

 

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Just now, BillStime said:

 

Not only do you hate yourself and everything about your life - you hate this country.

 

GTFOH - go - go to North Korea where one size fits all - you'll fit in perfectly.

 

 


No, he hates government. I think Somalia is a better fit for him. He can live out his libertarian wet dream there free of government tyranny and all the benefits that come with.

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11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Guns don't kill, the government does! 

 

Stupid 


It’s a fact this guy was trained to be lethal by the government and certified as fit to access military weapons for two decades. You don’t see there is a problem here that goes a little ***** further than some commercials with high Hefner holding a 12 gauge? 
 

Ffs for once you have clear lines to hold some institution accountable and you completely gloss over it, because it’s your god and savior.

 

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11 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


No, he hates government. I think Somalia is a better fit for him. He can live out his libertarian wet dream there free of government tyranny and all the benefits that come with.


How about you and your likeminded go live your socialist utopia in China and let us get back to closer to the original principles of not bowing to an aristocracy 

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


How about you and your likeminded go live your socialist utopia in China and let us get back to closer to the original principles of not bowing to an aristocracy 


Some of us don’t live in constant paralyzing fear of the government. 

7 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Yes more government and laws they selectively enforce is always the answer!! 


That’s right, the government is coming for you specifically. Buy 25 pounds of beans and five assault rifles and hide in your basement. 

11 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

LOL, the statist are all worked up this morning.

 

 

The dudes that wrote the constitution were libertarian. by today's standards.

 

but then again, that's why its attacked by every voice on the left. 

 

 


Yeah, the right wing loves the constitution until their MAGA cult leader breaks it, then it goes out the window. 

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1 minute ago, Roundybout said:


Some of us don’t live in constant paralyzing fear of the government. 


I know. But is that why the ones like you are such sycophants? Is it religious fear? I always assumed it was just lack of independence, general subservience, low iq, apathy, helplessness, executive functioning disorder. 
 

Fear probably explains a lot of the behaviors too. 
 

thanks. I finally learned something today about you and some of your folks intrinsic drivers. 

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Sadly, schizophrenia isn’t taken seriously until something bad happens.

 

Our laws have been constructed such that if their psychotic symptomology ends while institionalized, they are released on medications...the patients stops taking the meds and the symptoms reoccur. 


The psychiatrists and the legal officials and the public has to realize that chronic relapsers are in a different class of disease process and may need to be institutionalized for much longer periods...there need to be safeguards against political oppression using faked mental disease charges, however

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


I know. But is that why the ones like you are such sycophants? Is it religious fear? I always assumed it was just lack of independence, general subservience, low iq, apathy, helplessness, executive functioning disorder. 
 

Fear probably explains a lot of the behaviors too. 
 

thanks. I finally learned something today about you and some of your folks intrinsic drivers. 


Buddy you’ve never worked in government before if you actually fear them. 
 

As a proud bureaucrat I can safely say that incompetence is a problem, not malevolence. 

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55 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


I have solutions. Many people have solutions. The solutions have all been dismissed as “anti-constitutional” 


Agreed. I’m all for more institutionalization with proper oversight so we don’t have another Suffer the Little Children situation.

well, there is your problem, son.

 

if your solutions are not legal than they are not solutions, are they, bucko?

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1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

Our laws have been constructed such that if their psychotic symptomology ends while institionalized, they are released on medications...the patients stops taking the meds and the symptoms reoccur. 

 


I saw this unfold real time at work. It took some concerned folks going above and beyond to reach out to family to address it after several concerned observers reacted. It was exactly what you say. Stopped taking meds and started spiraling down a paranoid rabbit hole communicating very troubling and unhinged ideas to numerous people. 

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5 minutes ago, boyst said:

well, there is your problem, son.

 

if your solutions are not legal than they are not solutions, are they, bucko?

 

Sounds good, looking forward to more mentally ill domestic abusers killing 20+ people then. Thanks Republicans!

 

By the way, they’re absolutely legal solutions if you aren’t a staunch originalist. 

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6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Buddy you’ve never worked in government before if you actually fear them. 
 

As a proud bureaucrat I can safely say that incompetence is a problem, not malevolence. 


Expensive incompetence is absolutely the whole problem - when did I ever indicate otherwise? 
 

you being a bureaucrat makes  all the sense in the world- a sycophantic contributor to the theft and misappropriation of working people’s income. 

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


Expensive incompetence is absolutely the whole problem - when did I ever indicate otherwise? 
 

you being a bureaucrat makes  all the sense in the world- a sycophantic contributor to the theft and misappropriation of working people’s income. 


You live in daily fear of the government. Didn’t deny it at all. 
 

I’ll give you the same response I give the communists - I do my job because I have specialized technical skills to guide development. Let me know when the “workers of the world” ever want to get off their lazy asses and do it. 

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BREAKING from CBS News: MAINE LAW ENFORCEMENT BULLETIN: Maine State Police is attempting to locate Robert Card as a person of interest regarding a mass shooting incident at Schemeagees Bar and Grille Restaurant and the Sparetime Recreation in Lewiston.

 

Card is a trained firearms instructor believed to be in the Army reserve stationed out of Saco, ME

 

According to law enforcement, Card recently reported mental health issues including hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard base in Saco.  He was also reported to have been comitted to a mental health facility for 2 weeks in the summer of 2023.

 

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1717372423752888522

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I think the solution should be to take away everyone's guns.)  😐

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3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Sounds good, looking forward to more mentally ill domestic abusers killing 20+ people then. Thanks Republicans!

 

By the way, they’re absolutely legal solutions if you aren’t a staunch originalist. 

You are a few shades below dim, aren't you?

 

let's break this down as if it was ManningCast.

 

you open up with sarcasm which is a waste of time, particularly to me since so far i have thus engaged in reasonable conversation with you - something i do not have to do. so, please, don't waste time, mine or yours.

 

you then make a triumphant statement that is overbroad about mentally ill, domestic abuse murderers. this statement could be saved if you proffered any thought, even if not original, to solve this issue.

 

in your final statement you suggest there are legal solutions available but be sure to get that last little lick in to anyone who would dare challenge your superior arguments and intellect. you don't offer those possibilities or say much more besides creating an effect equal to a moan or grunt. your mouth may be open and making sounds but they're not reasonable to add to a conversation.

 

so, i propose that you're pretty awful at this and offer you a chance to try again. please, do better.  do much, much better.

 

good luck.

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19 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


You live in daily fear of the government. Didn’t deny it at all. 
 

I’ll give you the same response I give the communists - I do my job because I have specialized technical skills to guide development. Let me know when the “workers of the world” ever want to get off their lazy asses and do it. 


lol sure pal. I live in annoyance of how dysfunctional incompetent, useless and wasteful the government is, how much of my money they steal and misuse to no avail, while simultaneously deluded as you well illustrate into thinking they have a clue about how the real world operates. 
 

 The government drives the innovation 😂 is your vastly impressive technical aptitude wasting my money, operating a stapler, selecting the right color paint for urban dumpsters? 

 

now that we know you’re inefficient and incompetent professional leach, I’m sure your solutions work perfectly in the vacuum of your own mind. 

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20 minutes ago, boyst said:

You are a few shades below dim, aren't you?

 

let's break this down as if it was ManningCast.

 

you open up with sarcasm which is a waste of time, particularly to me since so far i have thus engaged in reasonable conversation with you - something i do not have to do. so, please, don't waste time, mine or yours.

 

you then make a triumphant statement that is overbroad about mentally ill, domestic abuse murderers. this statement could be saved if you proffered any thought, even if not original, to solve this issue.

 

in your final statement you suggest there are legal solutions available but be sure to get that last little lick in to anyone who would dare challenge your superior arguments and intellect. you don't offer those possibilities or say much more besides creating an effect equal to a moan or grunt. your mouth may be open and making sounds but they're not reasonable to add to a conversation.

 

so, i propose that you're pretty awful at this and offer you a chance to try again. please, do better.  do much, much better.

 

good luck.


Im not trying to argue, there’s nothing to argue about. 18 people are dead because a mentally unstable psychopath had easy access to a high powered rifle. I believe this is the only country on the planet where this happens regularly and we don’t even try to address the problem because of a bizarre reading of the 2nd Amendment that prevents even a national gun registry from seeing the light of day. So, here we are once again.

20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


lol sure pal. I live in annoyance of how dysfunctional incompetent, useless and wasteful the government is, how much of my money they steal and misuse to no avail. 
 

 The government drives the innovation 😂 is your vastly impressive technical aptitude wasting my money, operating a stapler, selecting the right color paint for urban dumpsters? 

 

now that we know you’re inefficient and incompetent professional leach, I’m sure your solutions work perfectly in the vacuum of your own mind. 


Criticize me all you want, but I love my job and having the opportunity to make the world a better place through my work. 

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Right… if only there were some paperwork and a database in this maniacs way. That would have prevented all of this. 
 

morons 


If he was registered on said database, then it flags when he gets checked into the mental ward and his guns are taken away. Simple. 
 

Shouldn’t have had them in the first place with his DV charge but hey.

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7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Criticize me all you want, but I love my job and having the opportunity to make the world a better place through my work. 

So the state supports you, and you support the state.

 

And are desperate to be owe of the owners or "controllers" in this new 15 minute city future.  Not stuck in it.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

So he's crazy and is allowed to have a gun. Good job NRA 

 

Again, the NRA didn't shoot anyone. If he had prior inpatient history, he should not have been legally allowed to possess a firearm. 

 

How that's on the NRA, let me know. 

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1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Interesting.  I never considered this aspect. 

I am sure there are sheepdogs amongst us.  

 

But the majority just want it for the last line.  IE, when your hiding waiting to be slaughtered like all these stories we read about.  instead of just praying, one has a chance.

 

Most would run, hide, barricade. (like the FBI and DHS train to) but after that.  it's nice to have something but prayers.

 

Guessing many in Maine are doing just that right now. shelter in place but got the gun handy.

 

 

 

 

 

crazy huh

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

I wonder if his military training was bit more than firearms safety instructor.

 

evade and escape, multiple targets.  

 

 

 

He was a petroleum specialist. 

 

That's basically someone who hauls fuel and pumps it. People who are elite soldiers aren't in that MOS. He would also not have any other training that would be anything special... at least with the US Army. 

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18 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Again, the NRA didn't shoot anyone. If he had prior inpatient history, he should not have been legally allowed to possess a firearm. 

 

How that's on the NRA, let me know. 

Oh sure they did. Like you, they want as many shootings as possible 

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