RobbRiddick Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 hours ago, newcam2012 said: You comparing the great Pats team with Buffalo? What are the similarities? Erm no, I'm saying teams often start badly but ultimately it has no bearing on their overall season. Instead of your Pats I'll use the bengals and burrow's 4 interceptions last season instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Robert Saleh isn't Rex Ryan. Rex took a team with Mark Sanchez to back to back AFCCG Salah has accomplished nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Erm no, I'm saying teams often start badly but ultimately it has no bearing on their overall season. Instead of your Pats I'll use the bengals and burrow's 4 interceptions last season instead Often teams start out badly and it does have a bearing on their overall season. Wouldn't you agree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Often teams start out badly and it does have a bearing on their overall season. Wouldn't you agree? The point is, a loss doesn't mean they're destined to miss the playoffs. Even though that will become the narrative by tuesday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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newcam2012 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: The point is, a loss doesn't mean they're destined to miss the playoffs. Even though that will become the narrative by tuesday morning That's a narrative made up in your mind. No one in their right mind who knows football would be saying the Bills aren't going to make the playoffs after losing on Monday night. Stop being ridiculous. If they go 0-2 or 0- 3 then the chatter will begin. Not after 1 loss to the Jets! Edited September 5, 2023 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 13 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: It’s not just the NY local media. There are so many open Jets fans in the national NFL media. Anytime that they are at all good, it’s the only thing that Rich Eisen, Mike Greenberg, and Rex Ryan want to talk about. In a related note, when did it become OK for national sports media figures to wear their fandom on their sleeves? 15 years ago, there were no Nick Wrights but now they’re everywhere. 15 years ago is the beginnings of social media and the smart phone. It expanded the sports talk landscape and now everyone can follow all of their favorite homer content creators. It also changed the formats TV sports talk to be more laid back and from the hip (like social media). Hence why you get TV commentators openly rooting for their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Rex took a team with Mark Sanchez to back to back AFCCG Salah has accomplished nothing Why the Salah hate? I don't get it. He seems to be on the same level as McD. Good motivators and weaker on the xs and os. Tough blue collar coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I don't expect much from Breece this season. Look how long it took Barkley to get back to his old form. I think that is a big reason why they went out and got Cook. I expect Cook and Carter will do a lot of the heavy lifting running the ball while Breece tries to regain his old form. It might take a year or so to get there like it did Barkley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 hours ago, BillsSbSoon said: Dj reed said today he thinks the jets defense could be historic. Hope the guys have that quote up for bulletin board material all week do teams really have bulletin boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Why the Salah hate? I don't get it. He seems to be on the same level as McD. Good motivators and weaker on the xs and os. Tough blue collar coaches. Because we're Bills fans and we're not supposed to like division rivals' coaches? This ain't rocket science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Because we're Bills fans and we're not supposed to like division rivals' coaches? This ain't rocket science. Strange mindset here. I'm not saying or advocating giving opposing coaches hugs and kisses. However, pushing hatred and rudeness isn't where I think fans should gravitate too. Have at it... 15 minutes ago, Gregg said: I don't expect much from Breece this season. Look how long it took Barkley to get back to his old form. I think that is a big reason why they went out and got Cook. I expect Cook and Carter will do a lot of the heavy lifting running the ball while Breece tries to regain his old form. It might take a year or so to get there like it did Barkley. Based on that premise, what's your viewpoint on Von Miller's return? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Because we're Bills fans and we're not supposed to like division rivals' coaches? This ain't rocket science. Shula and Belichick I can understand. They were/are both very good coaches and gave the Bills fits. Saleh is an average joe. He hasn't done anything. I hate the Jets and hope he fails but let's not put him on the hate level of Don and Bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Why the Salah hate? I don't get it. He seems to be on the same level as McD. Good motivators and weaker on the xs and os. Tough blue collar coaches. I don’t hate him. But he also has accomplished nothing and talks a big game. He’s won 11 games in two years and closed last season with a 6 game losing streak. No QB or not, that’s bad. His team scored 15 points total the last 3 games last year McDermott made the playoffs with a horrible roster. The Jets had the offensive and defensive rookie of the year last year and won 7 games. I expect the Jets to be better this year, but until then, Salah is just a HC with a poor record and good motivational speeches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Strange mindset here. I'm not saying or advocating giving opposing coaches hugs and kisses. However, pushing hatred and rudeness isn't where I think fans should gravitate too. Have at it... Based on that premise, what's your viewpoint on Von Miller's return? Hopefully Miller will get back into form by the end of the season and playoffs. It might take him some time to get back to where he was. Hard to predict with players coming back from these types of injuries. Edited September 5, 2023 by Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I don’t hate him. But he also has accomplished nothing and talks a big game. He’s won 11 games in two years and closed last season with a 6 game losing streak. No QB or not, that’s bad. His team scored 15 points total the last 3 games last year McDermott made the playoffs with a horrible roster. The Jets had the offensive and defensive rookie of the year last year and won 7 games. I expect the Jets to be better this year, but until then, Salah is just a HC with a poor record and good motivational speeches McD is 4-5 in the playoffs. His teams have choked away several playoff games. Jags, Texans, KC, and Cincinnati jump off the page. More specifically, his team wasn't ready to play vs Cincinnati. Excuses all you want that's on him! The coach has to have his team ready!!! KC and 13 seconds. Disaster on an epic level. McD choke job will go down in the NFL history books. McD hasn't gotten it done playoff time. He has largely failed and his subpar record supports that. McD is just a head coach with a poor playoff record and good motivational speeches. A coach that has one of the most talented QB in the league. A head coach that has no SB appearances and no rings. If you want to point to regular season records then McD is excellent. That is sufficient for many fans to support McD. That in itself makes many think McD is a great coach. Hello Marty S... A valid argument can be said that McD has under performed and has been out coached on the biggest stage. 14 minutes ago, Gregg said: Hopefully Miller will get back into form by the end of the season and playoffs. It might take him some time to get back to where he was. Hard to predict with players coming back for these types of injuries. Exactly. Take into account his age as well. The Bills need Von badly because the pass rush without him will likely not get it done. Edited September 5, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: That's a narrative made up in your mind. No one in their right mind who knows football would be saying the Bills aren't going to make the playoffs after losing on Monday night. Stop being ridiculous. If they go 0-2 or 0- 3 then the chatter will begin. Not after 1 loss to the Jets! Yes you're right, thank God the phenomenon of hot takes within the media hasn't yet reached the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: McD is 4-5 in the playoffs. His teams have choked away several playoff games. Jags, Texans, KC, and Cincinnati jump off the page. More specifically, his team wasn't ready to play vs Cincinnati. Excuses all you want that's on him! The coach has to have his team ready!!! KC and 13 seconds. Disaster on an epic level. McD choke job will go down in the NFL history books. McD hasn't gotten it done playoff time. He has largely failed and his subpar record supports that. McD is just a head coach with a poor playoff record and good motivational speeches. A coach that has one of the most talented QB in the league. A head coach that has no SB appearances and no rings. If you want to point to regular season records then McD is excellent. That is sufficient for many fans to support McD. That in itself makes many think McD is a great coach. Hello Marty S... A valid argument can be said that McD has under performed and has been out coached on the biggest stage. What does McDermotts playoff record have to do with Salah? At least he has one. McDermott has his shortcomings, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Salah has a .324 win percentage. McDermotts worst year he had a higher win pct. His playoff win pct is high than Salah's regular season win pct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 And in saleh’s two seasons, the jets have two last place finishes in the afc east. he can thanks Joe Douglas for giving him a chance. In his first season, Mcdermott made the playoffs with a team many thought was tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxbacker Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 19 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Has there been a more hyped team in recent memory? I mean we’ve had teams that people say that’s the consensus favorite and all but my goodness the New York media puts these people on a pedestal Ah, the Bills were pretty hyped up last year by the media. They just don't have the "NY" media behind them. Glad the Bills are not the talk this year to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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