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19 hours ago, boyst said:

You live that close and don't come to the TBDHOT?

 

I did miss last year tho...

 

I'm trying to drag Royale up to it this year. 

i live about 90 minutes door to door from the stadium.  i really would love to go at some point, but i'm to the point that the games i go to are very last minute, so it's gotten hard to plan anything.  last year was the first time in i don't know how many years i've missed a game.  

21 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

We were in NYC recently and the hotel bar had a Chardonnay that I thought was pretty good. I asked the bartender about it and was surprised to learn it was from the Finger Lakes region. I knew they had wineries, so I don’t know why it surprised me, but it did. I forget the name, but I’d drink that on a regular basis.

 

Side note: I asked why each glass was $22 since it said $15 on the wine list. They pointed out the fine print said $15 for a 3oz glass. Who on earth gets 3oz of wine? Would that evaporate before they get it to you??? I thought the 6oz was a light pour! 

The wineries around here have gotten very popular.  forbes recently did an article about the finger lakes, and specifically the town of geneva.  they're calling it the new, less expensive napa.  if you don't want to travel to the west coast, you can spend time on the finger lakes wineries and breweries.  if you're willing to drive and hour and a half to two hours, you can go to niagara on the lake in canada, which has it's own wine region.  fun tours, etc.  

 

that being said, $22 for a glass of finger lakes wine, (or any wine) is insane.  i get nyc prices, but my god.  i honestly don't love a lot of the wines from around here.  many tend to be sweet, but on occasion we find one we like at a winery and buy a case.  it's always very reasonable.

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14 minutes ago, teef said:

The wineries around here have gotten very popular.  forbes recently did an article about the finger lakes, and specifically the town of geneva.  they're calling it the new, less expensive napa.  if you don't want to travel to the west coast, you can spend time on the finger lakes wineries and breweries.  if you're willing to drive and hour and a half to two hours, you can go to niagara on the lake in canada, which has it's own wine region.  fun tours, etc.  

 

that being said, $22 for a glass of finger lakes wine, (or any wine) is insane.  i get nyc prices, but my god.  i honestly don't love a lot of the wines from around here.  many tend to be sweet, but on occasion we find one we like at a winery and buy a case.  it's always very reasonable.

 

Sweet is the enemy of good, and to be honest if I had heard finger lakes first I probably wouldn’t have ordered it. It was a pleasant surprise. 

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10 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

Enjoy your time on Canandaigua Lake! 

I used to love spending time there and in other areas of the Finger Lakes.  It's such a beautiful region.

 

Do yourself a favor and get a "Charlie Burger" at Charlies when you're there.

https://www.charliescanandaigua.com/

 

OMG, I miss NY food!

 

Ohhh, that opens up the flood gates for all my glutinous wishes! 

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6 hours ago, teef said:

 if you don't want to travel to the west coast, you can spend time on the finger lakes wineries and breweries.  if you're willing to drive and hour and a half to two hours, you can go to niagara on the lake in canada, which has it's own wine region.  fun tours, etc.  

 

that being said, $22 for a glass of finger lakes wine, (or any wine) is insane.  i get nyc prices, but my god.  i honestly don't love a lot of the wines from around here.  many tend to be sweet, but on occasion we find one we like at a winery and buy a case.  it's always very reasonable.

 

Not to cast stones here, but I don't think that region can produce top quality wines compared to other regions with longer growing seasons.

I am not criticizing them, I just don't think it is possible, but being familiar with the work, I am happy they are successful.

 

For bona fides. I have run a commercial vineyard on my property for seventeen years, and our 2017 grapes won a silver medal in the 2021 Virginia Governor's Cup.

I have ultimate respect for the folks in that region who do what I do here. 

The whites require less growing  season than the  Bordeaux red I grow here,  the odds are so stacked against them, and I would take a Virginia white at every choice.

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23 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Not to cast stones here, but I don't think that region can produce top quality wines compared to other regions with longer growing seasons.

I am not criticizing them, I just don't think it is possible, but being familiar with the work, I am happy they are successful.

 

For bona fides. I have run a commercial vineyard on my property for seventeen years, and our 2017 grapes won a silver medal in the 2021 Virginia Governor's Cup.

I have ultimate respect for the folks in that region who do what I do here. 

The whites require less growing  season than the  Bordeaux red I grow here,  the odds are so stacked against them, and I would take a Virginia white at every choice.

 

We are going to a wedding in north Georgia this weekend. Chateau Elan has their own winery and there are a number of them in the surrounding area. A friend who lives closer to that area has checked out most of the wineries and reports they are good people doing their best, but he wished he didn’t sign up for a subscription during a weak (and likely impaired) moment. 

 

I don’t think I’ll be drinking the local stuff much. And I will NOT be signing up for anything! We have a back log from Lambert Bridge near Healdsburg, CA. What a lovely town! You may be near or at least familiar with it. 

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52 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t think I’ll be drinking the local stuff much. And I will NOT be signing up for anything! We have a back log from Lambert Bridge near Healdsburg, CA. What a lovely town! You may be near or at least familiar with it. 

 

Ya. We used to live near Napa in our early years, which is what got me interested in viticulture.

I'm more a fan of Spanish, Italian and South American vintages, but to each his own.

 

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On 7/26/2023 at 7:08 PM, sherpa said:

 

Not to cast stones here, but I don't think that region can produce top quality wines compared to other regions with longer growing seasons.

I am not criticizing them, I just don't think it is possible, but being familiar with the work, I am happy they are successful.

 

For bona fides. I have run a commercial vineyard on my property for seventeen years, and our 2017 grapes won a silver medal in the 2021 Virginia Governor's Cup.

I have ultimate respect for the folks in that region who do what I do here. 

The whites require less growing  season than the  Bordeaux red I grow here,  the odds are so stacked against them, and I would take a Virginia white at every choice.

oh i get ya.  i wasn't so much talking about the quality of wine vs being able to visit a region much less expensive than napa.  i don't know much about wine, but i've never been a fan of ones that come from that region.

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On 7/25/2023 at 8:35 AM, Bill from NYC said:

I made reservations up there at a hotel on the lake. The pictures look great. When I take trips like this my primary goal is to relax, enjoy great scenery, and eat good food. I have never stayed in this reigon before and was wondering if any of you know much about the area.

 

Thanks. 

What weekend are you coming up to Canandaigua lake?

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We went to see Alison Krauss and Robert plant at CPAC last year and stayed at a relatives cabin on the lake.  Loved it.  Check to see if there's a show there.  Also there's a great diner in the town Hobart College is in.  On main st.  And a fantastic cheap Thai restaurant in Watkins Glen

This is worth the drive.  looks like they ended the lunch specials which were an amazing deal tho https://www.beyondmenu.com/47553/watkins-glen/thai-elephants-watkins-glen-14891.aspx

here's the diner.  great for breakfast

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g47777-d4004689-Reviews-Water_St_Cafe-Geneva_Finger_Lakes_New_York.html

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On 8/4/2023 at 11:14 PM, scuba guy said:

What weekend are you coming up to Canandaigua lake?

I got back last night. I stayed at the place on Lakeshore Drive next door to a brewery which had live music.  and directly if front of the boat that gives tours of the lake which was fairly interesting. The hotel is either new or recently bought and renovated by the Hilton people. They are still working on it (for instance, we couldn't use the balcony because mine was connected to a bridal suite lol and they are going to put up concrete dividers).

 

The area really is beautiful and the folks up there are friendly. That said, the money is pouring in. There were guests from all over the country, some with Porsches, etc. The food in the hotel was not appealing, but I do recommend a place called "Nolan's."  I had an IPA from Young Lions which was better than average. Breakfast at a really cool place. I think it was called "Patti's."

 

In all, we had a really nice time. We looked into reservations for next year and July and August were already booked. 

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On 7/26/2023 at 12:21 PM, teef said:

 

The wineries around here have gotten very popular.  forbes recently did an article about the finger lakes, and specifically the town of geneva.  they're calling it the new, less expensive napa.  if you don't want to travel to the west coast, you can spend time on the finger lakes wineries and breweries.  if you're willing to drive and hour and a half to two hours, you can go to niagara on the lake in canada, which has it's own wine region.  fun tours, etc.  

 

I would have called BS on this a month ago but just found out some work friends got married in Geneva as a destination wedding. Families are from Cleveland and Boston and this seemed like a good middle ground. They said was really well done and enjoyed it.

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On 8/6/2023 at 10:26 AM, Orlando Tim said:

I would have called BS on this a month ago but just found out some work friends got married in Geneva as a destination wedding. Families are from Cleveland and Boston and this seemed like a good middle ground. They said was really well done and enjoyed it.

just for clarification, the article was referring to the finger lakes in general as a cheaper napa, not just geneva.  my wife, (who works in geneva) and i were actually surprised that they used geneva as a talking point, as the lake it's on isn't as popular as the some of the others.  that said geneva has done a great job over the last decade improving the waterfront.  i've been to a couple of weddings in the area and have always had fun.

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On 8/6/2023 at 7:01 AM, Bill from NYC said:

I got back last night. I stayed at the place on Lakeshore Drive next door to a brewery which had live music.  and directly if front of the boat that gives tours of the lake which was fairly interesting. The hotel is either new or recently bought and renovated by the Hilton people. They are still working on it (for instance, we couldn't use the balcony because mine was connected to a bridal suite lol and they are going to put up concrete dividers).

 

The area really is beautiful and the folks up there are friendly. That said, the money is pouring in. There were guests from all over the country, some with Porsches, etc. The food in the hotel was not appealing, but I do recommend a place called "Nolan's."  I had an IPA from Young Lions which was better than average. Breakfast at a really cool place. I think it was called "Patti's."

 

In all, we had a really nice time. We looked into reservations for next year and July and August were already booked. 

Come up to Saratoga next august. 
 

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On 7/26/2023 at 7:08 PM, sherpa said:

 

Not to cast stones here, but I don't think that region can produce top quality wines compared to other regions with longer growing seasons.

I am not criticizing them, I just don't think it is possible, but being familiar with the work, I am happy they are successful.

 

For bona fides. I have run a commercial vineyard on my property for seventeen years, and our 2017 grapes won a silver medal in the 2021 Virginia Governor's Cup.

I have ultimate respect for the folks in that region who do what I do here. 

The whites require less growing  season than the  Bordeaux red I grow here,  the odds are so stacked against them, and I would take a Virginia white at every choice.

The Finger Lakes are most noted for their Rieslings. Both Dry and semi dry are quite good (great on a fall day). There are some top notch Chardonnay's though.

 

Sweet wines however are what floats the NY wine industry.

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