Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Crazy how people they fled communism don't want what the left is selling. And you had the last reply at nyt. That's like referencing Breitbart B man cited NYT. clearly didn't read article closely. the fact remains, D's have won the popular vote for prez for 20 years and the demographics, especially for the EC, are getting worse for the R's. Edited January 27, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Fact is people are fleeing Dem controlled states and cities. And why you federalist hate the ec, want to add sc and pr, and anything else to consolidate power at the deferral /presidential level. Where one has the least representation The ec was created to prevent the mob/you https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/net-domestic-migration-increased-in-united-states-counties-2021.html Edited January 27, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Did I miss where Florida got “whiter?” Lol Good candidates and an actual plan that makes soft independents feel safe and not that they’re voting for “crazy” Doc Oz or an “extremist” in Arizona. Once Hispanics continue to assimilate and realize Ds are anti Christian bigots and communists they come around. And deep blue states are getting purple. Only low info racist elitist whites that do what CNN tells them remains in places like Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania. Once they die out or retire to Florida they’ll go red. For a long time. Trump has been made so toxic - it’s an absolute miracle Ds have barely won anywhere. But they lost the House. They are losing groomer school boards everywhere. Once the GOP is clear of Lockdown Don (already happening) they won’t be able to run on “Orange man bad” anymore. Not that that works really. Governor Youngkin says hi! trump is still the fav among R voters. Many dems, including me, see that as a positive. He is definitely toxic to R's. Youngkin won in part because he distanced himself from him. That is also good. Edited January 27, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) That's a tough Argument when the left keeps championing wildly unpopular legislation that's actually hurting normies. But maybe if you put more big money into pacs, ballot harvesting the left can find these people that don't actually feel the economy like nursing homes,high schools and colleges. And don't forget the free narrative like Biden and college debt reduction.. Edited January 27, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, Chris farley said: That's a tough Argument when the left keeps championing wildly unpopular legislation that's actually hurting normies. But maybe if you put more big money into pacs, ballot harvesting the left can find these people that don't actually feel the economy like nursing homes,high schools and colleges. And don't forget the free narrative like Biden and college debt reduction.. demographics. it's the new, important buzz word and the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Wait - you’re upset that your party doesn’t appeal to the youth vote? Have you maybe asked yourself why? Have you seen what your party is focused on? Just look at the Governor of the armpit of America? That is not a winning ticket - no matter what @Doc and @B-Man tell you. Seek help I sure as Hell am never going to depend on the youth vote todays youth is soft & lazy they think like you that they are entitled just because they live in America & will truly work for nothing and depend on the gov't to take care of them like you do which is why you vote the way you do . Which when the S**T hits the fan i expect to have the likes of you to be knocking at the door for hand outs because of the things i listed in the paragraph above . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, T master said: I sure as Hell am never going to depend on the youth vote todays youth is soft & lazy they think like you that they are entitled just because they live in America & will truly work for nothing and depend on the gov't to take care of them like you do which is why you vote the way you do . Which when the S**T hits the fan i expect to have the likes of you to be knocking at the door for hand outs because of the things i listed in the paragraph above . Those lazy kids destroyed your red wave. Happy Friday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: demographics. it's the new, important buzz word and the topic of this thread. Let’s say you’re right. Let’s say the changing demographics support the Democratic Party. What’s the end game here? What’s the long term vision? I personally believe it’s pretty much ALL about getting to universal health care. After that, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Let’s say you’re right. Let’s say the changing demographics support the Democratic Party. What’s the end game here? What’s the long term vision? I personally believe it’s pretty much ALL about getting to universal health care. After that, who knows? Totally agree. I think the public is more ready for it. It is needed. Heard a report on NPR yesterday about the growth of concierge practices. About 10% of primary care docs are now concierge requiring yearly fees for access. usually between $2-5k. Tiered care is going to get more and more obvious. Don't blame the guys doing concierge at all in this awful corporate heal care system. In fact, I see one that I helped train. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, redtail hawk said: demographics. it's the new, important buzz word and the topic of this thread. The only demo that first the exodus. Is tax paying base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The only demo that first the exodus. Is tax paying base. well ok then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: B man cited NYT. clearly didn't read article closely. the fact remains, D's have won the popular vote for prez for 20 years and the demographics, especially for the EC, are getting worse for the R's. That is NOT what the NYT article said. That is what you are imagining, because it has been the narrative for decades. Please continue to spout your wishes, yes the Democrats have won the "popular vote" for 20 years, but that doesn't elect U.S. presidents, as you know (I hope) As the article does state, Latin and Asian voters are no longer automatic democrat party voters, as with African Americans, Texas, Florida continue to grow while California, Illinois, and New York are losing voters. THAT and that alone is why the Left hates the Electoral College. . . Edited January 27, 2023 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, B-Man said: That is NOT what the NYT article said. That is what you are imagining, because it has been the narrative for decades. Please continue to spout your wishes, yes the Democrats have won the "popular vote" for 20 years, but that doesn't elect U.S. presidents, as you know (I hope) As the article does state, Latin and Asian voters are no longer automatic democrat party voters, as with African Americans, Texas, Florida continue to grow while California, Illinois, and New York are losing voters. THAT and that alone is why the Left hates the Electoral College. . . based on the numbers from 2020 (which are real) this is a pessimistic interpretation in the NYT "These are substantial margins, but they are small enough that even decades of demographic shifts wind up costing the Republicans only a couple of percentage points." But even this pessimism doesn't change the conclusion that the demographic trend favors D's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 6 hours ago, BillStime said: Those lazy kids destroyed your red wave. Happy Friday! Red, Blue i really don't care who the person running is as long as their thoughts align with where i think the country needs to be that's why i'm registered independent . I vote for the lessor of 2 evils & Hillary is even a bigger POS than Trump was so that's why i voted that way & Joe is just totally lost so there's that . And now we are finding out Joe is just as bad if not worse than Trump IMHO he always was which he proved with all he has done to the country to this point Joe could care less about the best person for the job he has hired those who don't have a clue & appeal to groups that he wants to vote for him & they follow right along . So if that is what happens in 2 years and keeps someone (Other than Trump i hope) in office that like Joe hasn't a clue then we will all get exactly what the younger generations stupidity deserves but there again they won't even care and that's the true sad part !! Entitlement is all they as young people (and you) care about Work is a bad word ! You all just want what you can get for free so you don't have to work for it & that's what Joe & all like him are all about ! I'll almost bet your signed up for all the free bees because you hurt your back yrs ago & like thousands of others fleece the system every chance you get . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, T master said: Red, Blue i really don't care who the person running is as long as their thoughts align with where i think the country needs to be that's why i'm registered independent . I vote for the lessor of 2 evils & Hillary is even a bigger POS than Trump was so that's why i voted that way & Joe is just totally lost so there's that . And now we are finding out Joe is just as bad if not worse than Trump IMHO he always was which he proved with all he has done to the country to this point Joe could care less about the best person for the job he has hired those who don't have a clue & appeal to groups that he wants to vote for him & they follow right along . So if that is what happens in 2 years and keeps someone (Other than Trump i hope) in office that like Joe hasn't a clue then we will all get exactly what the younger generations stupidity deserves but there again they won't even care and that's the true sad part !! Entitlement is all they as young people (and you) care about Work is a bad word ! You all just want what you can get for free so you don't have to work for it & that's what Joe & all like him are all about ! I'll almost bet your signed up for all the free bees because you hurt your back yrs ago & like thousands of others fleece the system every chance you get . lmao - Fox News loves you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, T master said: Red, Blue i really don't care who the person running is as long as their thoughts align with where i think the country needs to be that's why i'm registered independent . I vote for the lessor of 2 evils & Hillary is even a bigger POS than Trump was so that's why i voted that way & Joe is just totally lost so there's that . And now we are finding out Joe is just as bad if not worse than Trump IMHO he always was which he proved with all he has done to the country to this point Joe could care less about the best person for the job he has hired those who don't have a clue & appeal to groups that he wants to vote for him & they follow right along . So if that is what happens in 2 years and keeps someone (Other than Trump i hope) in office that like Joe hasn't a clue then we will all get exactly what the younger generations stupidity deserves but there again they won't even care and that's the true sad part !! Entitlement is all they as young people (and you) care about Work is a bad word ! You all just want what you can get for free so you don't have to work for it & that's what Joe & all like him are all about ! I'll almost bet your signed up for all the free bees because you hurt your back yrs ago & like thousands of others fleece the system every chance you get . no entitlement here. I've unwillingly funded it with my work. and yes, there are takers that give almost nothing back to society. They are on both political spectrums and they are truly deplorable. Not supposed to say the truth out loud but it is the truth. they should be who the anger is directed at. They drag us all down and they too often are left unaccountable by both sides. Reminds me of a guy who wanted me to support his disability claim for back pain. I asked what hobbies he enjoyed. He said fishing (which I also love). Asked him about his tackle box and he told me he had a huge one. Described it thoroughly. Asked him about a boat and he told me he fishes out of his pontoon. Asked if he carries his tackle box onto his pontoon. "yes". He was neither young nor unique. No, to the disability claim. Just say No to cheaters and dumb crooks. It's a start. Edited January 28, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 21 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Totally agree. I think the public is more ready for it. It is needed. Heard a report on NPR yesterday about the growth of concierge practices. About 10% of primary care docs are now concierge requiring yearly fees for access. usually between $2-5k. Tiered care is going to get more and more obvious. Don't blame the guys doing concierge at all in this awful corporate heal care system. In fact, I see one that I helped train. So you would rather everyone get poor care than some get great care? You would rather have someone else decide your healthcare needs than do it yourself? In my area we have about 20 dentists of which 4 are top notch, 10ish are good, and the rest are garbage. I pay extra to stay with my top notch guy because I don't want deal with the garbage, why is that a problem to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 22 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Totally agree. I think the public is more ready for it. It is needed. Heard a report on NPR yesterday about the growth of concierge practices. About 10% of primary care docs are now concierge requiring yearly fees for access. usually between $2-5k. Tiered care is going to get more and more obvious. Don't blame the guys doing concierge at all in this awful corporate heal care system. In fact, I see one that I helped train. Thanks for the honesty. I’ve been saying it for years. Nobody is burning down cities so that drag queens can read to kids. The real core issues are universal healthcare…with a side of climate change. I’m not a big healthcare consumer (thank goodness) so I’m on the fence there. Climate change I believe to be fools errand in which people are being manipulated for profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for the honesty. I’ve been saying it for years. Nobody is burning down cities so that drag queens can read to kids. The real core issues are universal healthcare…with a side of climate change. I’m not a big healthcare consumer (thank goodness) so I’m on the fence there. Climate change I believe to be fools errand in which people are being manipulated for profit. In regards to universal healthcare I implore you to be against it. In any society where something important does not carry a financial incentive to be "better" it will ultimately stagnate at best and likely regress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Orlando Tim said: In regards to universal healthcare I implore you to be against it. In any society where something important does not carry a financial incentive to be "better" it will ultimately stagnate at best and likely regress. I understand and lean there. But I also know that we are currently not buying healthcare. We are buying health insurance. That’s where the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: In regards to universal healthcare I implore you to be against it. In any society where something important does not carry a financial incentive to be "better" it will ultimately stagnate at best and likely regress. 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: So you would rather everyone get poor care than some get great care? You would rather have someone else decide your healthcare needs than do it yourself? In my area we have about 20 dentists of which 4 are top notch, 10ish are good, and the rest are garbage. I pay extra to stay with my top notch guy because I don't want deal with the garbage, why is that a problem to you? it's a problem for several reasons. CEO's are making medical decisions. Both in clinics/hospitals and the big buildings in Connecticut that house insurance companies. It's wasted money going for profit that should be going for care.It's a big reason the US pays the most for healthcare (and drugs) and has low tier outcomes on many measures. The other reason is availability of care for the working poor. Often they just go without. Finally, the current system is diluting talent. We now have midlevels with online degrees acting as doctors. Guess what the impetus for that is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, redtail hawk said: it's a problem for several reasons. CEO's are making medical decisions. Both in clinics/hospitals and the big buildings in Connecticut that house insurance companies. It's wasted money going for profit that should be going for care.It's a big reason the US pays the most for healthcare (and drugs) and has low tier outcomes on many measures. The other reason is availability of care for the working poor. Often they just go without. Finally, the current system is diluting talent. We now have midlevels with online degrees acting as doctors. Guess what the impetus for that is? So your solution is to have politicians who you can't sue make medical decisions, have politicians make money off our healthcare, and make sure everyone has limited availability? Specifically your issue seems to be that my choice to pay extra for the good dentist benefits someone at the insurance company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: So your solution is to have politicians who you can't sue make medical decisions, have politicians make money off our healthcare, and make sure everyone has limited availability? Specifically your issue seems to be that my choice to pay extra for the good dentist benefits someone at the insurance company. you can't sue CEO's or insurance companies. They say they make financial, not medical decisions concerning care. But there are effectively making medical decisions if they don't pay. My point re concierge care is that tiered care will help sway public opinion towards universal care as it becomes more obvious and it becomes more difficult fort he average person to get quality care. you seemed to have missed the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: you can't sue CEO's or insurance companies. They say they make financial, not medical decisions concerning care. But there are effectively making medical decisions if they don't pay. My point re concierge care is that tiered care will help sway public opinion towards universal care as it becomes more obvious and it becomes more difficult fort he average person to get quality care. you seemed to have missed the point. So you agree with me? Are you just playing devil's advocate? Not sure if you are arguing for universal healthcare or simply trying to point out that idiots believe it will make healthcare better in our country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: So your solution is to have politicians who you can't sue make medical decisions, have politicians make money off our healthcare, and make sure everyone has limited availability? Specifically your issue seems to be that my choice to pay extra for the good dentist benefits someone at the insurance company. We are born with the right to vote for politicians are we not? And we can vote them out every two, four and six years, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 11:35 AM, redtail hawk said: so refute the article, chief. is the math wrong? No, the math appears correct- but what’s important to remember is that the GOP ran 2 terrible candidates against Obama…And Trump won 1 of 2 presidential elections recently… On top of that, a higher percentage of black and Latino voters seem to be voting for the GOP than normal, due to Democrat woke politics (ie Florida the biggest example)…So, i don’t really see demographics playing as big a role as the article would like to think…And again, it’s a Left leaning publication so they are likely going to try to make race a bigger deal than it is imo… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said: We are born with the right to vote for politicians are we not? And we can vote them out every two, four and six years, no? So how is his solution better than mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: So how is his solution better than mine? https://www.kff.org/uninsured/issue-brief/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/ 27.5 million Americans say hi...or something less nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.kff.org/uninsured/issue-brief/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/ 27.5 million Americans say hi...or something less nice. Obamacare expanded Medicaid and made it available to a lot more people, why are the uninsured not on Medicaid? It actually is the one thing Obamacare did that was proper. Even the report you cite mentions that many of the uninsured are here illegally and then mentions cost. I can't speak for every state but in Florida if you make about 50k per year then insurance is $25 a month for your family. That is reasonable for anyone. I do notice all your solutions include taking away something that works for 90% of people to give to a few, so I doubt we will ever agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I’ll trade universal health care for a flat tax. Anyone want to make that trade? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ll trade universal health care for a flat tax. Anyone want to make that trade? No, but I do want a flat tax or a national sales tax vs current income tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: Obamacare expanded Medicaid and made it available to a lot more people, why are the uninsured not on Medicaid? It actually is the one thing Obamacare did that was proper. Even the report you cite mentions that many of the uninsured are here illegally and then mentions cost. I can't speak for every state but in Florida if you make about 50k per year then insurance is $25 a month for your family. That is reasonable for anyone. I do notice all your solutions include taking away something that works for 90% of people to give to a few, so I doubt we will ever agree granted, we will never agree. but 'i'll still challenge the premise that it works for 90% of the people: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729 btw, if anyone wants to help people in their community with medical debt, this is a great org to work with. I have experience working with them for my community (heard about them on NPR). https://ripmedicaldebt.org Edited January 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: No, but I do want a flat tax or a national sales tax vs current income tax You have to be willing to give up something in a negotiation. I’m willing to make that trade. If everyone wants these ‘free’ services from their country, then EVERYONE has to pay for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 12:06 PM, BillStime said: He can't... lolz. Demographics are not on the cults side, and they know it. Young people showed in record numbers and will continue to do so... Americans and young people specially, are tired of the MAGA fringe. It's a dying party and they know it - just look at their desperation. Yup. Pretty much. The policy platform of the GOP is firmly rooted in Reaganomics and Christian nationalism, both of which have become deeply unpopular in America and particularly among Gen Z’ers and Millenials. It’s what polling data confirms and what the 2022 election results indicate. I assume the GOP is banking on the idea that Americans typically become more politically conservative as they age. Millenials, however, are strongly bucking any supposed historical trend to that effect. Such is life in late-stage neoliberalism, with a little bit of Dobbs v Jackson sprinkled in for good measure. In order to remain electorally viable, the GOP now focuses almost exclusively on Democratic Party corruption, real or imagined. That and some good old-fashioned LGBTQ bigotry for the angry Fox News viewership. Anything, basically, to avoid having to articulate palatable solutions to well-defined problems that are of any practical relevance to Americans. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: granted, we will never agree. but 'i'll still challenge the premise that it works for 90% of the people: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729 btw, if anyone wants to help people in their community with medical debt, this is a great org to work with. I have experience working with them for my community (heard about them on NPR). https://ripmedicaldebt.org No thanks. I already subsidize others "free" healthcare via exorbitant monthly premiums with crazy deductibles that is more than my mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 49 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: No thanks. I already subsidize others "free" healthcare via exorbitant monthly premiums with crazy deductibles that is more than my mortgage. so the current system is working well for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: so the current system is working well for you? Sure. If paying ridiculous premiums with 20k deductibles for what amounts to a catastrophic health insurance plan, so that others can have "free" coverage is what you want to categorize as "working well". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Sure. If paying ridiculous premiums with 20k deductibles for what amounts to a catastrophic health insurance plan, so that others can have "free" coverage is what you want to categorize as "working well". uh huh. So wouldn't a Canadian type system be better? Does this make you satisfied with your premiums? The 80/20 Rule generally requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% of the money they take in from premiums on health care costs and quality improvement activities. The other 20% can go to administrative, overhead, and marketing costs. The 80/20 rule is sometimes known as Medical Loss Ratio, or MLR. Rate Review & the 80/20 Rule | HealthCare.gov Edited January 29, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: uh huh. So wouldn't a Canadian type system be better? Does this make you satisfied with your premiums? The 80/20 Rule generally requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% of the money they take in from premiums on health care costs and quality improvement activities. The other 20% can go to administrative, overhead, and marketing costs. The 80/20 rule is sometimes known as Medical Loss Ratio, or MLR. Rate Review & the 80/20 Rule | HealthCare.gov It all Russian disinformation man! How about the latest episode of the Twitter files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It all Russian disinformation man! How about the latest episode of the Twitter files? uh huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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