BrooklynBills Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mango said: I think there is some confusion from two camps. One side is saying the Bills have to play this game because of seeding for other teams. The Bills don't have to do anything. Taylor and McDermott proved that to the league the other night. I don't agree with making two teams play who don't want to. Which we don't actually know one way or another. But what I think a good portion of the board is saying isn't that the Bills should not play the game. Rather if both the Bills/Bengals feels compelled to replay that game they should. If they don't the league is capable of issuing losses, ties, etc. without rescheduling the entirety of the playoffs. Playing the game to POSSIBLY get the 1 seed and the extra bye week makes zero sense. Scenario 1 (week 19 game): week 18 - game "week 19" - game (every other team gets a bye) WC - bye or game DIV - game Champ - game If you win both week 18 and 19(which is going to be both mentally taxing and just hard because CIN is good), to get to SB - Game, Game, BYE, Game, Game If you lose either week 18 or 19, to get to SB - Game, Game, Game, Game, Game So you either need to win 4 games with a bye in between weeks 2 and 3 OR win 5 in a row. IMO - from the Bills perspective - you forfeit the game this weekend against NE and take your bye week right now and then go win 3 games to get to the SB. There is not a fair way to do the seeding without playing the CIN game, but playing that game makes zero sense for the Bills on so many levels. If I'm the Bills, at this point I'm only concerned with my own team and what is best for them. Is it fair to whoever is fighting for that last playoff spot? NO, but I am not concerned with that in the least. They had all season to get in a better position. Everyone is saying to let the Bills have the most control in the process for themselves - well, that is how you do that. Unless the NFL has a way for the Bills to get the 1 seed by beating NE this weekend AND not having to re-play the CIN game, the NE forfeit scenario outlined above is the most fair way to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Lothar said: Well then you'd have to either play the game or allow the teams to decideb whether being the 2 or 3 seed is worth playing. I'd gather at that point the Bills would be ok playing a potential 2/3 matchup in Cincy in 2 weeks for the actual playoff game. Rather than twice in 3 wow with an abbreviated schedule. Agreed. Since it looks like the 2 and 3 seed could face each other this year (although you never know) it comes down to how much the Bills want home field advantage for that one. , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: Playing the game to POSSIBLY get the 1 seed and the extra bye week makes zero sense. Scenario 1 (week 19 game): week 18 - game "week 19" - game (every other team gets a bye) WC - bye or game DIV - game Champ - game If you win both week 18 and 19(which is going to be both mentally taxing and just hard because CIN is good), to get to SB - Game, Game, BYE, Game, Game If you lose either week 18 or 19, to get to SB - Game, Game, Game, Game, Game So you either need to win 4 games with a bye in between weeks 2 and 3 OR win 5 in a row. IMO - from the Bills perspective - you forfeit the game this weekend against NE and take your bye week right now and then go win 3 games to get to the SB. There is not a fair way to do the seeding without playing the CIN game, but playing that game makes zero sense for the Bills on so many levels. If I'm the Bills, at this point I'm only concerned with my own team and what is best for them. Is it fair to whoever is fighting for that last playoff spot? NO, but I am not concerned with that in the least. They had all season to get in a better position. Everyone is saying to let the Bills have the most control in the process for themselves - well, that is how you do that. Unless the NFL has a way for the Bills to get the 1 seed by beating NE this weekend AND not having to re-play the CIN game, the NE forfeit scenario outlined above is the most fair way to do that. You and I agree here. If the Bills essentially want to pack it in, for right now at least, they can forfeit the New England game....today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: This is most fair way to do it, I mean we use all kinds of technology, replays etc. Why not? Bills -31 Bengals -17 DONE! https://www.nflgamesim.com/nfl-game-simulator.asp?HomeTeam=nflBengals&HomeYear=2023&AwayTeam=nflBills&AwayYear=2023&hs=1&hSchedule=0 The score keeps changing, but Bills keep winning so all good! Edited January 4, 2023 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The NFL can't wait until to see how the weekend games turn out even if that's what they would rather do. I say don't play the game but I see good and fair arguments on either side. I just think every team in the NFL should know what is at stake when the games start on Saturday. If the NFL says they aren't going to play the game and they're gonna seed based on win %, then if KC wins on Saturday, I am in favor of resting almost everyone Sunday against NE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) I’m sure there are many layers to this, but the NFL is a multi-billion dollar corporation with thousands of employees. How have they not released what the plan is here? At a minimum, they need to suspend week 18 while they develop their plan. How do you expect the Bills, Bengals, Ravens, Chiefs, etc to play without even knowing what they are playing for. Doesn’t make any sense to continue with week 18 just to continue to fly by the seat of their pants. Edited January 4, 2023 by PetermansRedemption 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: I’m sure there are many layers to this, but the NFL is a multi-million dollar corporation with thousands of employees. How have they not released what the plan is here? At a minimum, they need to suspend week 18 while they develop their plan. How do you expect the Bills, Bengals, Ravens, Chiefs, etc to play without even knowing what they are playing for. Doesn’t make any sense to continue with week 18 just to continue to fly by the seat of their pants. Billion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Greg S said: Billion Oops, that’s what I meant to put too. Guess my fingers wanted to type something different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) I agree the resolution of this game absolutely needs to be determined before Sat. I thought for sure an option to resume the game would be suggested for Thurs/Fri (and obviously this weekend’s Bills and Bengals games pushed to next Tues/Wed). Perhaps it was and the Bills declined, who knows. We’re in very curious territory now and really interested to hear what the NFL decides. There’s no easy way out. Edited January 4, 2023 by Airseven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 This isn't going to be popular post but you have to wonder what the Patriots are thinking. If the Bills don't want to play this weekend, then the Pats essentially back-into the last playoff spot....right? If so, you'd think New England management would want to know that as soon as possible. Otherwise they have a road game to get ready for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The Bills don't owe anything to anybody to operate under a normal schedule/situation but I do think the NFL owes it to everyone to communicate a definitive plan well before this weekends games are played. The NFL is king of the Friday afternoon news dump though so I expect it Friday at 4:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: IMO - from the Bills perspective - you forfeit the game this weekend against NE and take your bye week right now and then go win 3 games to get to the SB. Not happening with the Dolphins / Steelers / Titans / Jags still fighting for the #7 seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: Not happening with the Dolphins / Steelers / Titans / Jags still fighting for the #7 seed The Jags and Titans are fighting for the division. The loser can still make it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The Bills aren’t forfeiting the NE game, the CIN game(if rescheduled), or any playoff games. Not happening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Greg S said: The Jags and Titans are fighting for the division. The loser can still make it in? Only the Jags if the FIns / Pats & Steelers all lose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: Not happening with the Dolphins / Steelers / Titans / Jags still fighting for the #7 seed They can't force them to play. As far as I know, the Bills can list all of their players as injured/unavailable and simply forfeit three game. Again, if I'm the McDermott/Beane/Pegula, I care less than 0% about what that means for 31 other teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: The Bills don't owe anything to anybody to operate under a normal schedule/situation but I do think the NFL owes it to everyone to communicate a definitive plan well before this weekends games are played. The NFL is king of the Friday afternoon news dump though so I expect it Friday at 4:30 Inconvenience to the people who actually attend the game will be the absolute least of the NFL's concerns through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: They can't force them to play. As far as I know, the Bills can list all of their players as injured/unavailable and simply forfeit three game. Again, if I'm the McDermott/Beane/Pegula, I care less than 0% about what that means for 31 other teams. Awesome plan - give yourself an extra bye week by forfeiting a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 10:54 AM, BRH said: I haven't read all the suggestions, but my son just said this: - Don't play this game. - Cancel the KC-Raiders game next Sunday because the Raiders are out of the playoffs and KC has already won their division. - Let Cincinnati and Buffalo play their games because they involve a division title (in Cincinnati/Baltimore's case) and a playoff berth (in New England's case). No playoff games are eliminated or moved. I kind of like it. It's completely unfair to give KC the 1 seed outright because of this game being canceled. KC already played their game this week and won. Let Cincinnati and Buffalo have their games next week. Then all three teams have played 16 games and the 1 seed/bye can be more fairly decided. This was a great suggestion but the NFL will never take revenue off the table. I heard someone today say let the top teams play at a neutral site. That’s a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 So on the NFL Radio Murray/Gannon were just saying that in the end, life is not fair and therefore the Bills will suffer the most unfairness. They believe the NFL will call game a no contest, Chiefs win Sat and have a better winning % and get 1 seed. Do you think the NFL would want to release this plan prior to the games? I'm not so sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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