WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, ganesh said: We can't put all the blame on Dorsey, We don't know if the players are executing or not executing their tasks, Every team makes half time adjustments and sometimes it is purely the flow of the game. The games are closer because the other teams have playmakers too. Miami had a strong running game and two WRs who were better than our DBs in their execution. However, I am sure their fans are screaming how Gesecki has not been involved in the offense or why the Dolphins did not run more in the 2nd half. It is simply possible that the Bills tightened the run game and gave more opportunities for the Dolphins in the passing game and in turn the Bills defense played better pass defense in the 4th quarter. Enjoy the ride, Go Bills ! Ultimately the execution is on Dorsey too, but I agree that players may not be executing the plays the way he draws them up. That is on him to fix with practice, reps, and rewarding playing time - OC is probably the toughest job out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, ganesh said: We can't put all the blame on Dorsey, We don't know if the players are executing or not executing their tasks, Every team makes half time adjustments and sometimes it is purely the flow of the game. The games are closer because the other teams have playmakers too. Miami had a strong running game and two WRs who were better than our DBs in their execution. However, I am sure their fans are screaming how Gesecki has not been involved in the offense or why the Dolphins did not run more in the 2nd half. It is simply possible that the Bills tightened the run game and gave more opportunities for the Dolphins in the passing game and in turn the Bills defense played better pass defense in the 4th quarter. Enjoy the ride, Go Bills ! Totally hear what you are saying, but there has been film study shared on the board showing some of that lack of creativity in the offense this year. Opposing players have made comments on the limited routes guys like Davis run and stuff. Teams like KC scheme guys open, we seem to rely on our receivers having to win every route. Just think its a flaw in Dorsey's first year, something he hopefully continues to learn from and improve on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 20 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s a week to week league. What you did last week doesn’t carry over to the next week. I don’t understand how fans don’t understand this yet. At this point it’s because they don’t want to. They have to know that other teams are struggling too, but they refuse to acknowledge that. It’s just like all of the media that trashed Josh for so long and the refused to admit he is actually a top 2 QB in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Totally hear what you are saying, but there has been film study shared on the board showing some of that lack of creativity in the offense this year. Opposing players have made comments on the limited routes guys like Davis run and stuff. Teams like KC scheme guys open, we seem to rely on our receivers having to win every route. Just think its a flaw in Dorsey's first year, something he hopefully continues to learn from and improve on. Fair point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: At this point it’s because they don’t want to. They have to know that other teams are struggling too, but they refuse to acknowledge that. It’s just like all of the media that trashed Josh for so long and the refused to admit he is actually a top 2 QB in the league So if I get this right the Bills fans are divded into two camps. The "they" group who have the audacity to call themselves fans yet believe there are things the team could improve upon. Apparently this group also believes other teams don't have their own struggles... too? By saying "too", I guess that is an acknowledgement that the Bills have struggles? And the other group of true fans that see nothing the team needs to work on because it is a week to week league and the Bills got the "W"? This whole thread is mind numbing. Some fans just see the "W" and that is enough and good for them, some see the "W" and things they think the team could do better and that's fine too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, WideNine said: So if I get this right the Bills fans are divded into two camps. The "they" group who have the audacity to call themselves fans yet believe there are things the team could improve upon. Apparently this group also believes other teams don't have their own struggles... too? By saying "too", I guess that is an acknowledgement that the Bills have struggles? And the other group of true fans that see nothing the team needs to work on because it is a week to week league and the Bills got the "W"? This whole thread is mind numbing. Some fans just see the "W" and that is enough and good for them, some see the "W" and things they think the team could do better and that's fine too. The W is definitely enough. I've sat through enough garbage football to appreciate a 32 point offensive effort in a WIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: The W is definitely enough. I've sat through enough garbage football to appreciate a 32 point offensive effort in a WIN. And that is perfectly fine, and I am glad that works for you. The whole you do you and I do me thing has been a missing element to this - whatever this is. Edited December 20, 2022 by WideNine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, WideNine said: And that is perfectly fine, and I am glad that works for you. The whole you do you and I do me thing has been a missing element to this - whatever this is. I think people like me are more than a little annoyed with people who piss in the punchbowl after a win. Like come on man. Wait a day at least lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I think that there are other factors that play into that fins win that make it exceptional let’s keep in mind that Miami is playing for their playoff wives having lost two straight highly motivated did not want to lose a third The bills found a way to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, WideNine said: So if I get this right the Bills fans are divded into two camps. The "they" group who have the audacity to call themselves fans yet believe there are things the team could improve upon. Apparently this group also believes other teams don't have their own struggles... too? By saying "too", I guess that is an acknowledgement that the Bills have struggles? And the other group of true fans that see nothing the team needs to work on because it is a week to week league and the Bills got the "W"? This whole thread is mind numbing. Some fans just see the "W" and that is enough and good for them, some see the "W" and things they think the team could do better and that's fine too. No what’s mind numbing is reading week after week how this team isn’t good enough to beat (insert team here) because of whatever reason you want to come up with-yet the team keeps winning. Also there’s no acknowledgment that the other teams that the Bills apparently can’t beat also have flaws. I think everyone on here can say that the O line is needs to improve, receivers outside of Diggs need to be more consistent, the corners are struggling…but can you honestly watch KC, the Bengals, Dallas, and Philly and honestly say the Bills can’t beat them? That’s what people are getting tired with around here. We scrutinize every little thing about the Bills here-it’s a Bills discussion board, that can/should happen-but just look at stats and highlights of the other teams and some assume I’m here that the Bills can’t hang. Be negative, no problem with that, but realize other teams have flaws too and maybe, just maybe this lowly Bills team that is currently the 1 seed in the AFC has as good a shot as any of them (if not better in some cases) of holding that Lombardi trophy in the end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I think people like me are more than a little annoyed with people who piss in the punchbowl after a win. Like come on man. Wait a day at least lol Odd way to celebrate don't you think? Starting a thread bitching about other fans takes. Seems a bit like pissing in the punchbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, WideNine said: Odd way to celebrate don't you think? Starting a thread bitching about other fans takes. Seems a bit like pissing in the punchbowl. If other fans takes are nothing but whining about mistakes in a win, then I'll absolutely celebrate by dogging them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, WideNine said: Odd way to celebrate don't you think? Starting a thread bitching about other fans takes. Seems a bit like pissing in the punchbowl. It’s all relative man for some reason there are folks that want to get overly critical after a win like they’re complaining is going to change a damn thing Be happy with the wind be happy with 11 and three be happy that we’ve had 10+ wins in four seasons some of us a lot of us were here for the decade of not being able to even get to the playoffs so to listen to people complaining right after a game is annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: No what’s mind numbing is reading week after week how this team isn’t good enough to beat (insert team here) because of whatever reason you want to come up with-yet the team keeps winning. Also there’s no acknowledgment that the other teams that the Bills apparently can’t beat also have flaws. I think everyone on here can say that the O line is needs to improve, receivers outside of Diggs need to be more consistent, the corners are struggling…but can you honestly watch KC, the Bengals, Dallas, and Philly and honestly say the Bills can’t beat them? That’s what people are getting tired with around here. We scrutinize every little thing about the Bills here-it’s a Bills discussion board, that can/should happen-but just look at stats and highlights of the other teams and some assume I’m here that the Bills can’t hang. Be negative, no problem with that, but realize other teams have flaws too and maybe, just maybe this lowly Bills team that is currently the 1 seed in the AFC has as good a shot as any of them (if not better in some cases) of holding that Lombardi trophy in the end. I really am not that concerned with the issues other teams have, unless they are next on the schedule and the Bills can exploit those flaws to win. Do you actually believe folks on this board are not aware that other teams have flaws? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, WideNine said: I really am not that concerned with the issues other teams have, unless they are next on the schedule and the Bills can exploit those flaws to win. Do you actually believe folks on this board are not aware that other teams have flaws? Really? It’s not that it’s talking like the team should be perfect. Even though other teams are not being overly critical after a win, I mean why? And we’ve had three losses this year the criticizing just ramped up 10 times during those weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: If other fans takes are nothing but whining about mistakes in a win, then I'll absolutely celebrate by dogging them for it. Other than a few extreme cases, I don't see that. I see fans that are happy we did enough to win, acknowledge the good plays, yet feel like this is also a place where they can discuss things the Bills could have done better. There is nothing wrong with that... but some folks overreact to any critique, and that is as bad as folks that cannot acknowledge any of the positives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, WideNine said: I really am not that concerned with the issues other teams have, unless they are next on the schedule and the Bills can exploit those flaws to win. Do you actually believe folks on this board are not aware that other teams have flaws? Really? Read people’s posts, I absolutely do think people on here aren’t aware of other teams flaws. There’s new excuses every week as to why the Bills WON’T (not can’t) beat certain teams. I am certain there are posters on here who are almost as interested to be able to say “I told you so” if the Bills lose as they are to see the Bills win in the end 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think that there are other factors that play into that fins win that make it exceptional let’s keep in mind that Miami is playing for their playoff wives having lost two straight highly motivated did not want to lose a third The bills found a way to win They did win, yet there is room for improvement. Some may think that is a negative statement, others may take that same statement and think the Bills beat a desparate team and did it without their "A" game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Read people’s posts, I absolutely do think people on here aren’t aware of other teams flaws. There’s new excuses every week as to why the Bills WON’T (not can’t) beat certain teams. I am certain there are posters on here who are almost as interested to be able to say “I told you so” if the Bills lose as they are to see the Bills win in the end Apparently you have not read the recent posts regarding the play of the Jets and the Patriots this week. But you are welcome to think people on here aren’t aware of other teams flaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: Apparently you have not read the recent posts regarding the play of the Jets and the Patriots this week. But you are welcome to think people on here aren’t aware of other teams flaws I think you are being a bit myopic. When a poster posts-- in this thread-- that the Bills "cannot" beat the Bengals, KC, SF, Dallas or Philly "playing as they are" it suggests that people are obtuse to the limitations of other teams such that the Bills have no chance. The Bills certainly can beat all those teams, even with their A games. And no team has its A game all of the time. Bills have roughly a 17% chance to win the SB according to oddsmakers. So it is very likely the Bills will not win the SB. But so what. And these BS "we can't win posts" do get tiresome. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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