BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Nick Fuentes is the white version of BLM- both are supremacists for their own race…And both are equally abhorrent…👍 This is what identity politics looks like on both sides- basically the same rhetoric, just from the other point of view… Edited November 30, 2022 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 A guy with a last name of Fuentes is into white supremacy? Go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: You know i've never in all the time i've been on this board seen on reply that you have made on the football side here i think you just come here to stir up a bunch of sh*t with your blind political bias . There are these kinds of people on both sides of the isle you just refuse to see it or hold each accountable for their redirect . Yep just the first page you have 12 posts filled with bias/hatered & doing nothing but stirring up a bunch of Bull S**T . You are officially from this point forward the official Two Bill Drive S**T stirrer !! Oh and despite all of the things that the sitting president has on him that you could talk about not 1 of your posts are about the dirt that there is on him . 🤔 Edited November 30, 2022 by T master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, T master said: You know i've never in all the time i've been on this board seen on reply that you have made on the football side here i think you just come here to stir up a bunch of sh*t with your blind political bias . There are these kinds of people on both sides of the isle you just refuse to see it or hold each accountable for their redirect . Yep just the first page you have 12 posts filled with bias/hatered & doing nothing but stirring up a bunch of Bull S**T . You are officially from this point forward the official Two Bill Drive S**T stirrer !! Oh and despite all of the things that the sitting president has on him that you could talk about not 1 of your posts are about the dirt that there is on him . 🤔 I get it buddy - it's been one disappointment after another in MAGA land, right T Masta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Nick Fuentes is the white version of BLM- both are supremacists for their own race…And both are equally abhorrent…👍 This is what identity politics looks like on both sides- basically the same rhetoric, just from the other point of view… This is so f'd up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This is so f'd up Yes I agree. I don't agree with racism on either side of the aisle. Identifying a person by the skin color is the most racist thing you can do. We are all humans 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Yes I agree. I don't agree with racism on either side of the aisle. Identifying a person by the skin color is the most racist thing you can do. We are all humans Ya, BLM does in no way imply racism. It's a defensive name. But racists all over the place want it to seem bad, so... That's why racism makes people stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Ya, BLM does in no way imply racism. It's a defensive name. But racists all over the place want it to seem bad, so... That's why racism makes people stupid. If there was a "white lives matter" it would be called a white supremacist hate group. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya, BLM does in no way imply racism. It's a defensive name. But racists all over the place want it to seem bad, so... That's why racism makes people stupid. Tibs, this is the narrative they want you to believe…But ask a BLM supporter if they believe an “All Lives Matter” sign is ok…they will tell you NO…This is because they are not about bringing people together like MLK Jr. did…they are about dividing people through hate and resentment, just like white supremacy… I have even seen signs in BLM marches that say “White Lives DON’T Matter”… So, while the minions, or foot soldiers may not know the deeper meaning behind the group, make no mistake- their leaders do, and they are as racist as they come… And all you have to do to see if clearer, is take what BLM leaders say, and pretend they were white people talking about black people…This should show you that they are no different than white supremacists…👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, JaCrispy said: Tibs, this is the narrative they want you to believe…But ask a BLM supporter if they believe an “All Lives Matter” sign is ok…they will tell you NO…This is because they are not about bringing people together like MLK Jr. did…they are about dividing people through hate and resentment, just like white supremacy… I have even seen signs in BLM marches that say “White Lives DON’T Matter”… So, while the minions, or foot soldiers may not know the deeper meaning behind the group, make no mistake- their leaders do, and they are as racist as they come… And all you have to do to see if clearer, is take what BLM leaders say, and pretend they were white people talking about black people…This should show you that they are no different than white supremacists…👍 Black people being abused by police because they don't believe black lives matter. That's it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Black people being abused by police because they don't believe black lives matter. That's it Black people don’t think black people matter way more than whites, based on statistics- and it’s not even close… So, maybe the saying is for black people to stop killing themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Conald digs deeper and deeper each time he speaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Black people don’t think black people matter way more than whites, based on statistics- and it’s not even close… So, maybe the saying is for black people to stop killing themselves? Why black people? Why you saying that? White people kill white people more than any other race. People are usually killed by people they know. And why is the murder rate high in black areas? Racism Poor people always have more crime. Why are blacks poor? Racism. This is pretty simple, blacks have been here in USA longer than most other groups but were enforced into poverty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why black people? Why you saying that? White people kill white people more than any other race. People are usually killed by people they know. And why is the murder rate high in black areas? Racism Poor people always have more crime. Why are blacks poor? Racism. This is pretty simple, blacks have been here in USA longer than most other groups but were enforced into poverty. You must see racism everywhere you go! You appear to suffer from mental health issues. I seriously think you need to seek professional counseling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside said: You must see racism everywhere you go! You appear to suffer from mental health issues. I seriously think you need to seek professional counseling. Historically it's kind of been a problem. The South's racism brought on the Civil War, Hitler's racism brought on WW2 and historic racism here in America created an impoverished group of people in the wealthiest nation on earth. But none of this means anything to you. I take it you are a bitter white person that couldn't make it in a nation that gave you all the opportunities than anyone with even a bit of ambition would love? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why black people? Why you saying that? White people kill white people more than any other race. People are usually killed by people they know. And why is the murder rate high in black areas? Racism Poor people always have more crime. Why are blacks poor? Racism. This is pretty simple, blacks have been here in USA longer than most other groups but were enforced into poverty. Why black people? Because you made a statement suggesting that the saying “Black Lives Matter” was necessary for white people because of all the times they kill black people… That statement, literally, has no statistical basis, whatsoever…Therefore I countered with the argument that perhaps blacks need to use the saying for themselves because 97% of ALL black homicides are at the hands of other blacks…Therefore, logic would dictate that it is black people who don’t believe that Black Lives Matter…😉 Does that mean that because the murder rate is higher in black areas, by other blacks, that black people are racist against other black people? 🤔 Now, obviously I’m being facetious, but you get my point… Regarding poverty, I believe more blacks are poorer than other ethnicities because they have lower standards of living than other groups- they settle for lower grades in school, they tend to settle for violence to solve conflicts, they settle for promiscuity in relationships instead of taking responsibility…All of these things contribute to higher poverty rates amongst urban blacks…Now, they can keep blaming the white man all they want- but that won’t help to solve their poverty issue- they must look within… Your last paragraph is misguided imo…between 1940-1960 no ethnic group saw greater economic growth than the black community- and this was in spite of Jim Crow laws…. But blacks back then had different values than they do today…they didn’t buy into the victim hood mentality…they were go-getters, believing in education, family and God…And were able to move mountains, when it came to accomplishments…They need to return to that era of thinking if they want to see a return to greatness imo….👍 Edited November 30, 2022 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Some of you really need to sit down with some black people and ask some basic questions. Most (if not all) black people I know do not want any special treatment or pity from anyone. But ask them if they experience racism and what that looks like. 28 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Why black people? Because you made a statement suggesting that the saying “Black Lives Matter” was necessary for white people because of all the times they kill black people… That statement, literally, has no statistical basis, whatsoever…Therefore I countered with the argument that perhaps blacks need to use the saying for themselves because 97% of ALL black homicides are at the hands of other blacks…Therefore, logic would dictate that it is black people who don’t believe that Black Lives Matter…😉 Does that mean that because the murder rate is higher in black areas, by other blacks, that black people are racist against other black people? 🤔 Now, obviously I’m being facetious, but you get my point… Regarding poverty, I believe more blacks are poorer than other ethnicities because they have lower standards of living than other groups- they settle for lower grades in school, they tend to settle for violence to solve conflicts, they settle for promiscuity in relationships instead of taking responsibility…All of these things contribute to higher poverty rates amongst urban blacks…Now, they can keep blaming the white man all they want- but that won’t help to solve their poverty issue- they must look within… Your last paragraph is misguided imo…between 1940-1960 no ethnic group saw greater economic growth than the black community- and this was in spite of Jim Crow laws…. But blacks back then had different values than they do today…they didn’t buy into the victim hood mentality…they were go-getters, believing in education, family and God…And were able to move mountains, when it came to accomplishments…They need to return to that era of thinking if they want to see a return to greatness imo….👍 wow way to understand the pulse of the entire black community and lecture them. very wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Some of you really need to sit down with some black people and ask some basic questions. Most (if not all) black people I know do not want any special treatment or pity from anyone. But ask them if they experience racism and what that looks like. wow way to understand the pulse of the entire black community and lecture them. very wise. Well, I am black- sooo, you’re welcome…😉👍 Any other questions, feel free to ask… Edited November 30, 2022 by JaCrispy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Some of you really need to sit down with some black people and ask some basic questions. Most (if not all) black people I know do not want any special treatment or pity from anyone. But ask them if they experience racism and what that looks like. Did you ever ask a follow up question as to how the feel about all the woke people having pity on them or giving them special treatment? 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Well, I am black- Well this just took an unexpected turn. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Did you ever ask a follow up question as to how the feel about all the woke people having pity on them or giving them special treatment? Well this just took an unexpected turn. LOL I just learned that, not only do we all look alike, but we are also required to think alike…😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I just learned that, not only do we all look alike, but we are also required to think alike…😉 Well it's more than think alike it's that you need help thinking because without those white folk helping you out you'll die of thirst just voting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Well, I am black- sooo, you’re welcome…😉👍 Any other questions, feel free to ask… Well I dont speak for the entire white community cause that would be so weird...... maybe you have real grip on the pulse of the entire black community thru generations. Chef is playing chess on here again? We ain't worthy Chef. I think my post actually answered your question. But you busy with chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Well it's more than think alike it's that you need help thinking because without those white folk helping you out you'll die of thirst just voting. Of course, after all, they are the superior race…😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Of course, after all, they are the superior race…😉 Yes I think that is clearly what I am implying with my posts. I am superior to you. 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Of course, after all, they are the superior race…😉 Well I don't think they look at themselves as superior as much as look at people of color being inferior. They of course will never admit that because they don't even understand it themselves. Those poor people of color need our help! And they've done a great job picking which colors need help. 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: Yes I think that is clearly what I am implying with my posts. I am superior to you. 😜 Who said his "they" is you?? That's very telling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Well I don't think they look at themselves as superior as much as look at people of color being inferior. They of course will never admit that because they don't even understand it themselves. Those poor people of color need our help! And they've done a great job picking which colors need help. Who said his "they" is you?? That's very telling. They? Be careful dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: They? Be careful dude. Wrong pronoun?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Regarding poverty, I believe more blacks are poorer than other ethnicities because they have lower standards of living than other groups- they settle for lower grades in school, they tend to settle for violence to solve conflicts, they settle for promiscuity in relationships instead of taking responsibility…All of these things contribute to higher poverty rates amongst urban blacks…Now, they can keep blaming the white man all they want- but that won’t help to solve their poverty issue- they must look within… Nothing to do with the fact they were not allowed to pursue the American Dream for hundreds of years? That really IS the reason Racism did that. That's not a theory, it's a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nothing to do with the fact they were not allowed to pursue the American Dream for hundreds of years? That really IS the reason Racism did that. That's not a theory, it's a fact Well, certainly racism contributed to the black community not reaching its fullest potential… But my point is, as I stated before, the black community achieved the fastest rate of economic growth, more than any other ethnic group, during a period of oppression…And I’m suggesting the culture has actually gone backwards, because the community was better off 60 years ago than it is today… #MakeTheBlackCommunityGreatAgain😉👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, JaCrispy said: Well, certainly racism contributed to the black community not reaching its fullest potential… But my point is, as I stated before, the black community achieved the fastest rate of economic growth, more than any other ethnic group, during a period of oppression…And I’m suggesting the culture has actually gone backwards, because the community was better off 60 years ago than it is today… #MakeTheBlackCommunityGreatAgain😉👍 How were they better off? Only a racist would make such an argument, but, you say you are African American? Ok Black people were better off during segregation. That's this guys argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How were they better off? Only a racist would make such an argument, but, you say you are African American? Ok Black people were better off during segregation. That's this guys argument Roy Moore makes a good argument about this. 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How were they better off? Only a racist would make such an argument, but, you say you are African American? Ok Black people were better off during segregation. That's this guys argument How were blacks better off? In 1960, 7 out of 10 black households had two parents in the home-even higher than white families… Today, 2 out 10 black households have two parents… Which time period was better for the black family, today or 1960? In 1960, black students graduated high school at a higher rate, with higher GPAs… Which time period was better for the black student, today or 1960? Today, higher drug use, higher gang violence, higher black on black homicide… The black communities had thriving business districts in the ‘40s and ‘50s…It was the golden age of black American culture, and the sky was the limit… How am I a racist for saying such things- especially if they are true? How am I racist for wanting the black community to reach greatness? Furthermore, I was told I couldn’t be racist because I’m black- only white people can be, because they have the power…😉 Edited November 30, 2022 by JaCrispy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: How were blacks better off? In 1960, 7 out of 10 black households had two parents in the home-even higher than white families… Today, 2 out 10 black households have two parents… Which time period was better for the black family, today or 1960? In 1960, black students graduated high school at a higher rate, with higher GPAs… Which time period was better for the black student, today or 1960? Today, higher drug use, higher gang violence, higher black on black homicide… The black communities had thriving business districts in the ‘40s and ‘50s…It was the golden age of black American culture, and the sky was the limit… How am I a racist for saying such things- especially if they are true? Furthermore, I was told I couldn’t be racist because I’m black- only white people can be, because they have the power…😉 I'd say one reason for this is during segregation the community needed to build, and did build, the necessary support systems that facilitated an environment of relative self-sufficiency and culture. Locally owned and run businesses, community services, social support systems like churches and community centers. And strong civic leaders. Those support systems were damaged not by the end of segregation but by government social policies and corporate businesses that destroyed those support systems thriving in the local communities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'd say one reason for this is during segregation the community needed to build, and did build, the necessary support systems that facilitated an environment of relative self-sufficiency and culture. Locally owned and run businesses, community services, social support systems like churches and community centers. And strong civic leaders. Those support systems were damaged not by the end of segregation but by government social policies and corporate businesses that destroyed those support systems thriving in the local communities. Exactly…in old times, that was how society structured itself to get ahead- God, Family, Community…and it worked… Its unfortunate some black communities bought the lie that big government was selling- and ultimately, it all but destroyed them… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Exactly…in old times, that was how society structured itself to get ahead- God, Family, Community…and it worked… Its unfortunate some black communities bought the lie that big government was selling- and ultimately, it all but destroyed them… When governments (or any entity) provides for a group of people that group tends to become lazy. Race has nothing to do with it. Look at the number of people that didn’t work during the pandemic when many chose to collect a paycheck for not working. Same with unemployment. How many weeks do they get now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Nothing to do with the fact they were not allowed to pursue the American Dream for hundreds of years? That really IS the reason Racism did that. That's not a theory, it's a fact So what's stopping folks in the black community now? Most families in my previous neighborhood were from various Asian countries and spoke very little English and came here with absolutely nothing and are all prospering. Is the world only racist against 1 race? My neighbors succeeded by having good family structure, high value placed on education, and owning businesses. That's the American dream and it's obtainable for everyone. Racism is not an excuse. Everyone I know is 2-3 generations removed from being immigrants themselves. We need to stop with the excuses and hold people accountable for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: We need to stop with the excuses and hold people accountable for their actions. Except this guy, of course: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Except this guy, of course: They've been trying for years. Apparently he didn't break any laws though otherwise they would have gotten him by now don't you think? If they do get him I think they would be doing us a favor. I think more people would vote against Trump than for him or for whoever the Dems run. It's basically Trump vs Trump and enough people don't like him where they will send in those mail in ballots against him so I don't think he has a chance to win. Desantis on the other hand is probably our best bet to bring some sanity back to the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: They've been trying for years. Apparently he didn't break any laws though otherwise they would have gotten him by now don't you think? If they do get him I think they would be doing us a favor. I think more people would vote against Trump than for him or for whoever the Dems run. It's basically Trump vs Trump and enough people don't like him where they will send in those mail in ballots against him so I don't think he has a chance to win. Desantis on the other hand is probably our best bet to bring some sanity back to the world The wheels of justice move slowly... but karma will catch up to Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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