Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Online voting is a terrible idea. There should always be a paper ballot for auditing. I imagine you were against online banking when it first came out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: No. Which question are you answering "no" to. Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: They have handicap buses and prime parking spots for people with disabilities This is embarrassing, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Brueggs said: Which question are you answering "no" to. Please elaborate. The entire premise of the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The problem with the voting system now is simple, there are too many people voting the wrong way. Fix that and problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: The entire premise of the question Well, there were two questions. Answering "no" to both is conflicting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Brueggs said: Well, there were two questions. Answering "no" to both is conflicting... You're dealing with chigoose. Perceived malfeasance from his side are just mistakes. Perceived malfeasance from the other side, which he laughably asks people to believe is his former team...then hang 'em high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Brueggs said: Well, there were two questions. Answering "no" to both is conflicting... The very idea that "the government" which is comprised of thousands and thousands of people operating at a variety of levels of government in a myriad of roles with a diversity of incentives, beliefs and opinions, is a singular entity that would decide whether or not to cover up voter fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: There will always be fraud. The goal should be to minimize it as much as possible. It is inherently minimized because of the risk/reward to the individual that does it. The reward is you cast a single extra vote that will make zero difference to the outcome of the election. The risk is you go to prison, pay a hefty fine, and have your name smeared for life. Still waiting on a single point of real evidence in favor of this supposed widespread fraud. Luckily the GOP on the whole has moved away from this ridiculous talking point. Many of the 2020 election skeptics/deniers who lost their election this week have already conceded the race. This is a good sign that they recognize it is a pointless battle and it was just a circus the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: None, nobody asked Hahahahahahahaha...you fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: It is inherently minimized because of the risk/reward to the individual that does it. The reward is you cast a single extra vote that will make zero difference to the outcome of the election. The risk is you go to prison, pay a hefty fine, and have your name smeared for life. Still waiting on a single point of real evidence in favor of this supposed widespread fraud. Luckily the GOP on the whole has moved away from this ridiculous talking point. Many of the 2020 election skeptics/deniers who lost their election this week have already conceded the race. This is a good sign that they recognize it is a pointless battle and it was just a circus the whole time. So you agree that voting fraud does exist ✔️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The very idea that "the government" which is comprised of thousands and thousands of people operating at a variety of levels of government in a myriad of roles with a diversity of incentives, beliefs and opinions, is a singular entity that would decide whether or not to cover up voter fraud. People have a tendency to follow marching orders, especially when there livelihood depends upon it. That being said, why not just answer the questions? 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: You're dealing with chigoose. Perceived malfeasance from his side are just mistakes. Perceived malfeasance from the other side, which he laughably asks people to believe is his former team...then hang 'em high! Trying to give the benefit of the doubt ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: It is inherently minimized because of the risk/reward to the individual that does it. The reward is you cast a single extra vote that will make zero difference to the outcome of the election. The risk is you go to prison, pay a hefty fine, and have your name smeared for life. Still waiting on a single point of real evidence in favor of this supposed widespread fraud. Luckily the GOP on the whole has moved away from this ridiculous talking point. Many of the 2020 election skeptics/deniers who lost their election this week have already conceded the race. This is a good sign that they recognize it is a pointless battle and it was just a circus the whole time. When you puke out ballots or ballot applications to everyone on the voter rolls....unsolicited.... It just might create a fertile playground for widespread fraud. It's virtually impossible to prove the fraud. So take away the opportunity and make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. These post covid efforts are making it easy to vote and easy to cheat. There is zero good reason to have mass mail in voting. None. Unless you want to invite more fraud of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Every election has “some” fraud. It’s baked in. The pandemic gaslighting of it being the safest, most secure election ever is a joke.. It was not. There was a baseline of fraud, like there always is, but that baseline affected more votes due to the covid procedures. No evidence of this. 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Does that mean Trump lost due to voter fraud and/or Dominion computers? No, it doesn’t. That being said, if the following election, our gov’t wanted to continue the deterioration of voter confidence, they would do what Nevada and Arizona are doing right now. It’s completely unacceptable to have the equipment breakdowns Arizona had, and then have two mid-sized states struggle this badly with counting ballots. Dude, with almost no preparation and training, every year, we set up a pop up election sites mostly run by volunteers as the backbone of our democracy. It's a testament to the honesty and capability of Americans that we pull it off each year. Just now, BillsFanNC said: When you puke out ballots or ballot applications to everyone on the voter rolls....unsolicited.... It just might create a fertile playground for widespread fraud. It's virtually impossible to prove the fraud. So take away the opportunity and make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. These post covid efforts are making it easy to vote and easy to cheat. There is zero good reason to have mass mail in voting. None. Unless you want to invite more fraud of course. Only evidence of widespread fraud is in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Sundancer said: Hahahahahahahaha...you fraud. I don't get it. Are you saying I didn't watch someone fill out 4 ballots by themselves because I assure you that I did. I'm guessing I'm at least 1 of thousands if not millions to witness that. You want me to go testify to that and put a friend in jail over 4 votes? I'm just saying it happens. If you want to argue it's not widespread or doesn't make a difference then ok but I've seen numerous people post that it doesn't exist at all and I assure you it does and by good law abiding citizens who don't think it's a big deal. So just imagine what the bad guys are up to if that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brueggs said: People have a tendency to follow marching orders, especially when there livelihood depends upon it. That being said, why not just answer the questions? Trying to give the benefit of the doubt ... The government wouldn't cover up voting mistakes. It's why states don't often certify the official election results for weeks (even after the media has called races) . Many states also conduct audits to verify the results before certification. And it's highly unlikely that an attempted coverup would be possible or successful given the strict controls around how elections are conducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, KDIGGZ said: I don't get it. Are you saying I didn't watch someone fill out 4 ballots by themselves because I assure you that I did. I'm guessing I'm at least 1 of thousands if not millions to witness that. You want me to go testify to that and put a friend in jail over 4 votes? I'm just saying it happens. If you want to argue it's not widespread or doesn't make a difference then ok but I've seen numerous people post that it doesn't exist at all and I assure you it does and by good law abiding citizens who don't think it's a big deal. So just imagine what the bad guys are up to if that's the case Your anecdotal criminal venture witnessing and not reporting notwithstanding, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. None. Zero. Nada. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: So you agree that voting fraud does exist ✔️ I agree that occasionally a small piece of a meteor falls out of the sky and kills a person. I do not agree that we should waste a lot of time and resources on a meteor defense system, or change the way that we walk outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Sundancer said: Your anecdotal criminal venture witnessing and not reporting notwithstanding, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. None. Zero. Nada. I guess I'm the only person to witness it then. Lucky me. I should have played the Powerball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sundancer said: No evidence of this. Dude, with almost no preparation and training, every year, we set up a pop up election sites mostly run by volunteers as the backbone of our democracy. It's a testament to the honesty and capability of Americans that we pull it off each year. Only evidence of widespread fraud is in your head. I guess you missed the part where I clearly said it's almost impossible to prove. Which of course is the very point and why it's done. Not much chance you'll be caught. The point is to take away the opportunity. Other than legitimate absentee ballots why should mass mail in voting be normalized? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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