Biden's "Speech" Tonight

[BillStime]

52 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Whoa...that's some true fascist ***** right there.  LOL!!

 

In you own words please.  What does MAGA mean to you?  

 

Fringe

[Chef Jim]

39 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Fringe

 

MAGA means fringe?   Is this what you're saying?

 

Ok nice try but you're wrong.  Terribly wrong and why you will never win this because you obviously had zero interaction with MAGA supporters and all you're going on is what your party leader tells you.  

 

[B-Man]

[BillStime]

MAGA

 

 

[Brueggs]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Meanwhile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . back at the Biden speech thread, 

 

all was not well for those trying to distract from what a disaster it was.

 

 

 

Vulnerable Democrats Distancing Themselves From Biden’s MAGA Speech

by Mike LaChance 

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/09/vulnerable-democrats-distancing-themselves-from-bidens-maga-speech/

 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/democrats-run-from-bidens-divisive-maga-speech

 

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/6/wisconsins-mandela-barnes-senate-candidate-skips-b/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't think it matters what side of the political spectrum someone is on to realize how truly bad this speech was.  It was so bad, even if you watch it without sound, it sends a terrible message.  Its hard to believe, that somewhere along the way, the people that put this together didn't realize how bad it was.  Someone would have to be utterly brain dead to see this as anything but a failure.  Photos of Hitler speeches look more innocent than this.

[BillStime]

25 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

I don't think it matters what side of the political spectrum someone is on to realize how truly bad this speech was.  It was so bad, even if you watch it without sound, it sends a terrible message.  Its hard to believe, that somewhere along the way, the people that put this together didn't realize how bad it was.  Someone would have to be utterly brain dead to see this as anything but a failure.  Photos of Hitler speeches look more innocent than this.

Funny how the same snowflakes crying about a speech calling out fascists cheered on Trumps “mean Tweets”

 

MAGA tears are delicious 

[Chef Jim]

26 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Funny how the same snowflakes crying about a speech calling out fascists cheered on Trumps “mean Tweets”

 

MAGA tears are delicious 

Is it possible you are wrong on every argument?  Many MAGA supporters (me included) hated Trump’s tweets.  Unfortunately the same can’t be said for those on the left regarding Biden’s divisive speech.  
 

And I thought MAGA was a fringe?  If so those tears are from a fringe so who cares.  
 

 

[BillStime]

20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Is it possible you are wrong on every argument?  Many MAGA supporters (me included) hated Trump’s tweets.  Unfortunately the same can’t be said for those on the left regarding Biden’s divisive speech.  
 

And I thought MAGA was a fringe?  If so those tears are from a fringe so who cares.  
 

 

 

HOAX

 

On 5/23/2022 at 4:32 PM, Chef Jim said:

And he's still ***** with the whatever percentage of the population like you.  Why I love that mother *****.  

 

Trump 2024  Soooooowwweeeeeeeeeeeeee!! 

 

On 4/29/2021 at 11:15 AM, Chef Jim said:

And THIS is exactly one of the big reasons we loved Trump.  

 

On 2/8/2022 at 11:53 AM, Chef Jim said:

I love how he makes yours and people like you heads explode on a daily basis.  It's a ***** beautiful thing to watch.  Beautiful!!  

 

On 7/28/2021 at 10:41 AM, Chef Jim said:

This is the main reason I love him. He speaks and liberals lose their *****.  It’s a beautiful sight. 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

HOAX

 

 

 

 

 

So much work Billy to fail so miserably.   Where did I mention his tweets?  That’s right. I didn’t.  I was referring to his mere existence the made your heads explode and still explode to this day. It’s a beautiful thing. 

[BillStime]

37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

So much work Billy to fail so miserably.   Where did I mention his tweets?  That’s right. I didn’t.  I was referring to his mere existence the made your heads explode and still explode to this day. It’s a beautiful thing. 

HOAX

[Brueggs]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

Funny how the same snowflakes crying about a speech calling out fascists cheered on Trumps “mean Tweets”

 

MAGA tears are delicious 

You see it as crying because that is how you relate.  I see it as calling it what it is.  

Trump made some blunders for sure.  The difference is, some people can admit it.  You can't.  

[Chef Jim]

47 minutes ago, BillStime said:

HOAX

 

Yeah I know....you've said that.  God you're ***** boring.  

 

 

23 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

You see it as crying because that is how you relate.  I see it as calling it what it is.  

Trump made some blunders for sure.  The difference is, some people can admit it.  You can't.  

 

That's the difference.  Trump supporters have no problem calling out Trump as the knucklehead he sometimes is.  However the Biden folks really can't say anything bad about him.  

[BillStime]

51 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

You see it as crying because that is how you relate.  I see it as calling it what it is.  

Trump made some blunders for sure.  The difference is, some people can admit it.  You can't.  

Only fascists are upset. Oh well.
 

[BillStime]

36 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Yeah I know....you've said that.  God you're ***** boring.  

 

 

 

That's the difference.  Trump supporters have no problem calling out Trump as the knucklehead he sometimes is.  However the Biden folks really can't say anything bad about him.  

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Only fascists are upset. Oh well.
 

as seen in a different thread fascists deny election results and endorse political violence would you like me to show examples of democrats doing that?  

[SoCal Deek]

The defining characteristic of a fascist government is that it seeks to silence (or cancel) political dissent. 
 

Can we PLEASE get the terms correct? 

[B-Man]

 

 

                                 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The defining characteristic of a fascist government is that it seeks to silence (or cancel) political dissent. 
 

Can we PLEASE get the terms correct? 

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race ...

[SoCal Deek]

17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race ...

And characterized by a canceling of political dissent. 

[BillStime]

54 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

And characterized by a canceling of political dissent. 

Far right authoritarian… canceling Liz Cheney and Chris Jacobs. 
 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Goes here also.

 

 

 

 

Joe Biden, Divider-in-Chief

By Robert Franklin  September 11, 2022

 

 

A week ago, President Biden read a speech in Philadelphia.  It was the exact opposite of the speech he should have given.  It was the exact opposite of the speech a true leader would have given.

 

In 2020, Joe Biden campaigned as a “uniter” and made the same claim in his first State of the Union address.  It was a good line following, as it did, our most divisive presidency at least since Nixon’s.

 

But that’s all it was – a line.   Today, just 19 months later, Biden’s Manichean speech in Philadelphia was far from what he promised and what this country needs – a sense of unity, of shared purpose.  Instead, his words unequivocally divided the United States into us and them, darkness and light, truth and lies.

 

Over 75 million people voted for Donald Trump in 2020, but, to Joe Biden, dare to wear a MAGA hat and you become a threat to our “equality and democracy.”  To Biden and the rest of the “us/them” crowd, it’s not simply that Trump voters hold opposing views about the direction of the country.  And it’s certainly not as if those views could possibly have any validity.  No indeed.  Those who wear caps bearing the awful words “Make America Great Again” are the evil Other to be loathed and feared.  They aren’t decent people with legitimate complaints about who governs them and how.  They aren’t blue-collar workers whose jobs were shipped overseas during the neoliberalism that’s ruled our foreign policy for the last 30+ years.  Their idea that the United States is run by elites who neither know about the hardships of “Middle America” nor care, is just some bizarre fantasy concocted by deplorables who, in Biden’s words, “are a threat to the foundation of the republic” and who are “not normal.”

 

{snip}

 

Finally, Donald Trump will eventually exit the stage to general sighs of relief, but the populism to which he’s given voice is here to stay.  That’s because the questions it raises, the demands it makes are altogether legitimate, fair and potentially constructive.  Biden’s dodging of those issues may serve his party in the short term, but not the country.  Someone, sometime will have to address them or face the potentially dire consequences of a house more and more divided against itself.  That division is now the most important problem this country faces and Joe Biden’s speech only made it worse.

 

His speech was not only the exact opposite of the way in which he presented himself to voters such a short time ago, it was the exact opposite of what he or any other president should have said.  A true leader, one of even minimal decency and competence would have known that.

 

 

https://libertyunyielding.com/2022/09/11/joe-biden-divider-in-chief/

[Chef Jim]

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The defining characteristic of a fascist government is that it seeks to silence (or cancel) political dissent. 
 

Can we PLEASE get the terms correct? 

Well no, according to Billy Boy one saying they support MAGA makes them a fascist. Nothing more. Calling him a pea brain is an insult to small peas. 

[Chef Jim]

56 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Goes here also.

 

 

 

 

Joe Biden, Divider-in-Chief

By Robert Franklin  September 11, 2022

 

 

A week ago, President Biden read a speech in Philadelphia.  It was the exact opposite of the speech he should have given.  It was the exact opposite of the speech a true leader would have given.

 

In 2020, Joe Biden campaigned as a “uniter” and made the same claim in his first State of the Union address.  It was a good line following, as it did, our most divisive presidency at least since Nixon’s.

 

But that’s all it was – a line.   Today, just 19 months later, Biden’s Manichean speech in Philadelphia was far from what he promised and what this country needs – a sense of unity, of shared purpose.  Instead, his words unequivocally divided the United States into us and them, darkness and light, truth and lies.

 

Over 75 million people voted for Donald Trump in 2020, but, to Joe Biden, dare to wear a MAGA hat and you become a threat to our “equality and democracy.”  To Biden and the rest of the “us/them” crowd, it’s not simply that Trump voters hold opposing views about the direction of the country.  And it’s certainly not as if those views could possibly have any validity.  No indeed.  Those who wear caps bearing the awful words “Make America Great Again” are the evil Other to be loathed and feared.  They aren’t decent people with legitimate complaints about who governs them and how.  They aren’t blue-collar workers whose jobs were shipped overseas during the neoliberalism that’s ruled our foreign policy for the last 30+ years.  Their idea that the United States is run by elites who neither know about the hardships of “Middle America” nor care, is just some bizarre fantasy concocted by deplorables who, in Biden’s words, “are a threat to the foundation of the republic” and who are “not normal.”

 

{snip}

 

Finally, Donald Trump will eventually exit the stage to general sighs of relief, but the populism to which he’s given voice is here to stay.  That’s because the questions it raises, the demands it makes are altogether legitimate, fair and potentially constructive.  Biden’s dodging of those issues may serve his party in the short term, but not the country.  Someone, sometime will have to address them or face the potentially dire consequences of a house more and more divided against itself.  That division is now the most important problem this country faces and Joe Biden’s speech only made it worse.

 

His speech was not only the exact opposite of the way in which he presented himself to voters such a short time ago, it was the exact opposite of what he or any other president should have said.  A true leader, one of even minimal decency and competence would have known that.

 

 

https://libertyunyielding.com/2022/09/11/joe-biden-divider-in-chief/

Nailed it.  This is the proof that Biden and those like Billy Boy have no…zero….nada….niente clue as to what MAGA is. 

[Chef Jim]

@BillStime

 

Roll your eyes all you want but I gave you a list of what MAGA means to ME.  See, making your country, your life, the life of your family and the ones you love great means different things to different people.  You said my list was NOT MAGA but in fact it was absolutely what MAGA means to ME and to many other MAGA supporters like me.  The fact that you, and Biden apparently, don't understand but even more importantly don't care to understand says a lot.

 

I bet if we compared your list to mine it would likely be very similar. But carry one and argue for the sake of arguing.  It shows an incredible lack of critical thinking and maturity.  Your response to this will be very telling. 

 

  

[BillStime]

13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

@BillStime

 

Roll your eyes all you want but I gave you a list of what MAGA means to ME.  See, making your country, your life, the life of your family and the ones you love great means different things to different people.  You said my list was NOT MAGA but in fact it was absolutely what MAGA means to ME and to many other MAGA supporters like me.  The fact that you, and Biden apparently, don't understand but even more importantly don't care to understand says a lot.

 

I bet if we compared your list to mine it would likely be very similar. But carry one and argue for the sake of arguing.  It shows an incredible lack of critical thinking and maturity.  Your response to this will be very telling. 

 

  

That’s fine Jim - you’re entitled to your POV… keep sugarcoating the absolute hate that is a hallmark of MAGA.

[Doc]

Of course Dems hate "Make America Great Again."  They hate what America stands for and want to fundamentally transform it to their socialist utopia. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

Of course Dems hate "Make America Great Again."  They hate what America stands for and want to fundamentally transform it to their socialist utopia. 

Make America Great Again… for who? Fundamentally change America like the cult has by turning the clock back 50 years? You think that’s a winning strategy for a dying party?

 

Make America Great again for who? 

 

Kids?

Women?

Blacks?

LGTBQ?

 

Why are you afraid to answer?

 

MAGA hates America and everything it stands for… we see it every day

 

[Chef Jim]

54 minutes ago, BillStime said:

That’s fine Jim - you’re entitled to your POV… keep sugarcoating the absolute hate that is a hallmark of MAGA.

 

I'm sugarcoating nothing.  Again if you feel MAGA =  hate you're pointing out the hate in the wrong direction.  

 

May I ask you how often have you interacted with MAGA supporters?  I need you to be 100% honest with your response to this.  

[BillStime]

52 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I'm sugarcoating nothing.  Again if you feel MAGA =  hate you're pointing out the hate in the wrong direction.  

 

May I ask you how often have you interacted with MAGA supporters?  I need you to be 100% honest with your response to this.  

Every day, here.  I see the hate you and the cult choose to ignore, spin or cheer  on - every day.

 

I saw how much you enjoyed the hate Trump spewed on a daily basis.  You loved it because in your mind - he was owning the libs.

 

Thats MAGA.

 

Meanwhile, you are telling me MAGA respects women? LGTBQ? History? Voting rights? Human life? Democracy?

 

I recall you had a tough time dealing with and turning yourself inside out to defend the racist laws that target and suppress voting just like you are 100% sugarcoating what MAGA really is… you desperately want to believe you are associated with something mainstream -  but you’re not.

 

 

[Chef Jim]

29 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Every day, here.  I see the hate you and the cult choose to ignore, spin or cheer  on - every day.

 

I saw how much you enjoyed the hate Trump spewed on a daily basis.  You loved it because in your mind - he was owning the libs.

 

Thats MAGA.

 

Meanwhile, you are telling me MAGA respects women? LGTBQ? History? Voting rights? Human life? Democracy?

 

I recall you had a tough time dealing with and turning yourself inside out to defend the racist laws that target and suppress voting just like you are 100% sugarcoating what MAGA really is… you desperately want to believe you are associated with something mainstream -  but you’re not.

 

 

Here?  You base it on the 4 or 5 that interact with you?  That’s what you base it on. Good lord.  I suggest you get out for a change and talk to real people ok. 
 

You think pro life means they are against woman’s rights?  Not even close. It has everything to do with their deep religious beliefs that life begins at conception. It’s about saving the life of the unborn child. It’s rights. If you don’t understand that I can’t help you.  And just so you know I’m 100% for keeping abortion legal and safe.  But, unlike you, I think critically and understand both sides of this argument. So think why they are pro life. If you think hard enough you may discover an empathetic cell in your body and agree to disagree as opposed to the hate YOU are spewing here. 
 

And yes I defended the GA voting law. But I was passionate about the fact it was not based on racism.  You have not and cannot prove it’s racist.  It changed the laws for all citizens of GA not just POC.  It’s sad you point an accusatory finger with zero to back it up with. 
 

Regarding LGBTQ issue?  There are lots and lots of LBGQT MAGA supporters. Again get out and meet these people you so despise. You’ll be surprised how diverse they actually are. 
 

History?  We love history. What are you referring to?

Human life?  See above regarding abortion. 
 

Democracy?  Huh?  
 

Again step away from the keyboard and meet some MAGA people. You accuse some of the most beautiful people I’ve known, been related to of some horrible things and it’s all from what you’ve read and very little of what you’ve experienced. 
 

This is likely the longest response I’ve ever had to you. And now I’m done. You are the most closed minded, immature, borderline psychotic (if not full blow psychotic) person I’ve ever had the please to interact with. I wish you well. 

 

 

[BillStime]

28 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Here?  You base it on the 4 or 5 that interact with you?  That’s what you base it on. Good lord.  I suggest you get out for a change and talk to real people ok. 
 

You think pro life means they are against woman’s rights?  Not even close. It has everything to do with their deep religious beliefs that life begins at conception. It’s about saving the life of the unborn child. It’s rights. If you don’t understand that I can’t help you.  And just so you know I’m 100% for keeping abortion legal and safe.  But, unlike you, I think critically and understand both sides of this argument. So think why they are pro life. If you think hard enough you may discover an empathetic cell in your body and agree to disagree as opposed to the hate YOU are spewing here. 
 

And yes I defended the GA voting law. But I was passionate about the fact it was not based on racism.  You have not and cannot prove it’s racist.  It changed the laws for all citizens of GA not just POC.  It’s sad you point an accusatory finger with zero to back it up with. 
 

Regarding LGBTQ issue?  There are lots and lots of LBGQT MAGA supporters. Again get out and meet these people you so despise. You’ll be surprised how diverse they actually are. 
 

History?  We love history. What are you referring to?

Human life?  See above regarding abortion. 
 

Democracy?  Huh?  
 

Again step away from the keyboard and meet some MAGA people. You accuse some of the most beautiful people I’ve known, been related to of some horrible things and it’s all from what you’ve read and very little of what you’ve experienced. 
 

This is likely the longest response I’ve ever had to you. And now I’m done. You are the most closed minded, immature, borderline psychotic (if not full blow psychotic) person I’ve ever had the please to interact with. I wish you well. 

 

 

Religion - good for you… keep it out of our government and politics.

 

lmao - you’re open minded lolololol

 

Georgia is one of the most racist states in the union - enough said 

 

Yes, your gay buddies think you’re nuts.

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

49 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Here?  You base it on the 4 or 5 that interact with you?  That’s what you base it on. Good lord.  I suggest you get out for a change and talk to real people ok. 
 

You think pro life means they are against woman’s rights?  Not even close. It has everything to do with their deep religious beliefs that life begins at conception. It’s about saving the life of the unborn child. It’s rights. If you don’t understand that I can’t help you.  And just so you know I’m 100% for keeping abortion legal and safe.  But, unlike you, I think critically and understand both sides of this argument. So think why they are pro life. If you think hard enough you may discover an empathetic cell in your body and agree to disagree as opposed to the hate YOU are spewing here. 
 

And yes I defended the GA voting law. But I was passionate about the fact it was not based on racism.  You have not and cannot prove it’s racist.  It changed the laws for all citizens of GA not just POC.  It’s sad you point an accusatory finger with zero to back it up with. 
 

Regarding LGBTQ issue?  There are lots and lots of LBGQT MAGA supporters. Again get out and meet these people you so despise. You’ll be surprised how diverse they actually are. 
 

History?  We love history. What are you referring to?

Human life?  See above regarding abortion. 
 

Democracy?  Huh?  
 

Again step away from the keyboard and meet some MAGA people. You accuse some of the most beautiful people I’ve known, been related to of some horrible things and it’s all from what you’ve read and very little of what you’ve experienced. 
 

This is likely the longest response I’ve ever had to you. And now I’m done. You are the most closed minded, immature, borderline psychotic (if not full blow psychotic) person I’ve ever had the please to interact with. I wish you well.

 

Why waste your time?  You're talking to a brick wall who is incapable of critical thought or disingenuous in how he/she views the things others believe or brainwashed. 

[Chef Jim]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Religion - good for you… keep it out of our government and politics.

 

lmao - you’re open minded lolololol

 

Georgia is one of the most racist states in the union - enough said 

 

Yes, your gay buddies think you’re nuts.

 

 

 

 

Yes religion needs to be kept out of government. Good job with your lack of understanding where people you disagree with are getting their thoughts from.  I’m a major nonbeliever. I think religion has been a major cause of problems in the world but will NEVER disparage one’s belief. THAT my friend is open mindedness. Try it sometime. 
 

GA is one of the most racist states?  Maybe maybe not.  But that in itself does not make the law racist. It’s only racist in your closed mind.

 

And I saved the best for last.  My gay buddies think I’m nuts??  What gay buddies of mine have you been taking to?  🙄

 

Now let’s compare the two people in this conversation. Which one is coming across with the most hatred?  Take care. 

 
 

[BillStime]

MAGA

 

Time to welcome new batch of foreign workers to Trump's Mar-a-Lago club/crime scene

 

The Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach has filed a request with the U.S. Department of Labor to hire 91 temporary foreign workers next month to staff the club as housekeepers, cooks and servers during the upcoming season. 

[SoCal Deek]

35 minutes ago, BillStime said:

MAGA

 

Time to welcome new batch of foreign workers to Trump's Mar-a-Lago club/crime scene

 

The Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach has filed a request with the U.S. Department of Labor to hire 91 temporary foreign workers next month to staff the club as housekeepers, cooks and servers during the upcoming season. 

And your point is what exactly? Geez….TDS runs deep in you. He’s literally broken you beyond repair. Time to seek professional help. Stat! 

[BillStime]

MAGA

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

MAGA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait….never going to leave Washington? I think you mean Joe Biden. 😉

[Brueggs]

11 hours ago, BillStime said:

Religion - good for you… keep it out of our government and politics.

 

lmao - you’re open minded lolololol

 

Georgia is one of the most racist states in the union - enough said 

 

Yes, your gay buddies think you’re nuts.

 

 

 

 

Just an observation.  You seem to be so filled with hatred, that it becomes all you see.  Its literally blinding.  You stand firm with every issue based purely on what the party tells you to think, rather than forming your own opinion.  You need to remove the hatred to even begin to have the ability to be objective.  You have become exactly what it is that you think you are fighting against, and don't even know it.  For your sake, I hope I am wrong and you are just doing this because you are being paid to.

[BillStime]

MAGA

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

On 9/11/2022 at 8:55 AM, SoCal Deek said:

The defining characteristic of a fascist government is that it seeks to silence (or cancel) political dissent. 
 

Can we PLEASE get the terms correct? 

 

Warning: dictionary definition of fascism included, until they change the definition that is. I recommend watching until the end, or at least skipping to the last 45 seconds to get the 40th POTUS take.