Big Blitz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 That’s exactly what CNN is trying to say. What sick sick people they are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 9:16 AM, B-Man said: Shameful. Maine legalizing abortion up to the moment of birth This legislation seems rather vague, perhaps purposefully so. As to what is being changed, the state’s current law allows abortions until the baby is “viable outside the womb” at roughly 24 weeks or six months. In other words, it allows the procedure in the first two trimesters, but not the third. There is an exception in the current law for conditions that put the mother’s life at risk. Under the new law, there would still be a cap at 24 weeks, but would allow exceptions after that “if deemed medically necessary by a doctor.” But what does that even mean? Are there reasons other than endangering the life of the mother that would apply? I suppose if something went terribly wrong and the fetus was no longer viable, that might apply. One of the bill’s sponsors, state Senator Jill Dusan seemed to suggest that. She said the bill was intended to help women “who face the unimaginable.” But if that was the true intent of the bill (and the only intent) why not expand the current language to simply exempt conditions that place “the mother’s life or the baby’s life at risk?” That seems as if it would offer a lot more clarity. https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/06/28/maine-legalizing-abortion-up-to-the-moment-of-birth-n561213 So I’m going to both sides this argument No, it is not OK to abort like literally right up until birth not OK But Six weeks on the other end of this spectrum is also ridiculous. Most women don’t even know they’re pregnant at six weeks. The bottom line is this the optics for taking away women’s rights are just bad. It looks like major regression, which should’ve been done is there should’ve been a national term where you can abort that is not right up to birth, and certainly not six weeks This is going to be a problem for the right come election time because the far right is starting to get ridiculous on this because of what the Supreme Court did. I saw a podcast last night that some idiot was complaining about women’s contraception and condoms. The polls on this are coming out very unfavorably to the right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So I’m going to both sides this argument No, it is not OK to abort like literally right up until birth not OK But Six weeks on the other end of this spectrum is also ridiculous. Most women don’t even know they’re pregnant at six weeks. The bottom line is this the optics for taking away women’s rights are just bad. It looks like major regression, which should’ve been done is there should’ve been a national term where you can abort that is not right up to birth, and certainly not six weeks This is going to be a problem for the right come election time because the far right is starting to get ridiculous on this because of what the Supreme Court did. That's why it should be a state issue. The Supreme Court ruled accurately that there is no guarantee in the Constitution of the right to abortion based on a right to privacy issue. That's their mandate. Not on ruling on what is politically popular. Let the states do it with local involvement, as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, sherpa said: That's why it should be a state issue. The Supreme Court ruled accurately that there is no guarantee in the Constitution of the right to abortion based on a right to privacy issue. That's their mandate. Not on ruling on what is politically popular. Let the states do it with local involvement, as it should be. Regardless, it will be a political issue They have basically taken rights away from women It will be remembered at the ballot box 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I have no doubt that it will "remembered at the ballot box," but political outcome is not the purview of the Supreme Court. They have ruled that a Constitutional right didn't exist under a right to privacy. Others have chosen the political goal over their expressed religious affiliation. I can name a guy if you want. Chips fall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, sherpa said: I have no doubt that it will "remembered at the ballot box," but political outcome is not the purview of the Supreme Court. They have ruled that a Constitutional right didn't exist under a right to privacy. Others have chosen the political goal over their expressed religious affiliation. I can name a guy if you want. Chips fall. I’m not sure how you can say. It’s not a political issue. The Supreme Court is majority right wing the right has been trying to put this in front of them for years. They made a ruling on it that supported the right. I have no idea just how much it’s going to sway voters in the next election, but it doesn’t sound good for the right because it’s a defense that they cannot make this got put in front of the Supreme Court in someway these things don’t just happen To be perfectly honest, I’m surprised that the left has not been making moves to pack the court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They made a ruling on it that supported the right. Their ruling is congruent with the Constitution, which is their mandate. Political popularity is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, sherpa said: I have no doubt that it will "remembered at the ballot box," but political outcome is not the purview of the Supreme Court. They have ruled that a Constitutional right didn't exist under a right to privacy. Others have chosen the political goal over their expressed religious affiliation. I can name a guy if you want. Chips fall. The Pope likes Biden. Pretty sure he served him communion. edit: Well kind of... https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-joe-biden-g-20-summit-europe-rome-b88497127cc09a79d018cd262b1c41a1 Edited July 12, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 These idiots just won’t learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Good news for women. (Bad news for Democrat zealots) First Ever Over-the-Counter Birth Control Gets FDA Approval After Years of Hesitancy Republicans were attacked in the wake of the Dobbs decision, with some progressives warning that Republicans might go after birth control next. However, Republicans have spent years pushing for greater access to OTC birth control as a way to combat abortion. So why hasn’t it happened? It must be that awful, religious-right-dominated GOP that’s standing in the way, right? Actually, not so much. Republicans, in fact, have repeatedly tried to make birth control pills available without a prescription, only to face opposition from . . . Democrats and Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood stands to possibly lose money with FDA approvals like this, as 27 percent of their $1.7 billion in revenue comes from contraception. “If women are buying their pills at CVS,” Reynolds noted, “there’s no insurance money rake-off for Planned Parenthood.” https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/07/13/first-ever-over-the-counter-birth-control-gets-fda-approval-after-years-of-hesitancy-n775683 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 18 hours ago, redtail hawk said: The Pope likes Biden. Pretty sure he served him communion. edit: Well kind of... https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-joe-biden-g-20-summit-europe-rome-b88497127cc09a79d018cd262b1c41a1 Whenever anyone brings the Pope into the conversation, you'll lose me. As a twelve year beneficiary of Catholic education and upbringing, I am quite aware of the tenets of Catholic theology. The Papal office, Mary, and a few other things cause me to leave that faith for more consistent and supported theology. Biden has not only disregarded that view, he has stridently opposed it. Not my issue or care, but suggesting that the Pope likes him and that somehow excuses the contradiction between his activist views that are in direct conflict is not going to win the day, at least not for me. Biden always chooses the politically expedient. Religion doesn't matter. Popes have gotten along or at least coexisted with a lot of nasty folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Should the GOP candidate for POTUS be concerned about what is going on in Ohio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Horrible! And the supreme court might get rid of red flag laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Now they're lying about banning birth control? Condoms even? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, Doc said: Now they're lying about banning birth control? Condoms even? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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