Andy1 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Well, people last night voted to affirm abortion rights in all states where it was on the ballot. Voters in KY, MI, VT, CA & MT chose to protect womens rights. That is about as diverse a group of states as you could choose. It is pretty clear now how most Americans feel about this issue. I would expect Democrats to push to get this issue on ballots in other states in future elections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 13 hours ago, SCBills said: Nobody in blue states, that understand abortion law, is concerned. It’s a political football for dumb people. Smart people who want power just throw it around. Hochul convinced people Zeldin was going to make abortion illegal in NY. There’s absolutely zero chance he can do anything to abortion if he wanted to, but most voters are easily manipulated and/or lack intelligence (on both sides) This is strictly anecdotal but out here in midnight deep blue California there were almost ZERO television ads for a ballot measure to make abortion part of the State’s Constitution. Instead, the ballot measure we heard about for the last six months day in and day out was regarding Indian Casinos and Sports Gambling. “Dobbs on the Ballot”….hardly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Abortion will still be a hot topic in 2024. Dems can work referendums into several key battleground states to pump up the margins. That's what Bush did in 2004 with gay marriage bans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 It mattered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 3:03 PM, Wacka said: ALL the Dobbs decision did was uphold the 10th Amendment. lol On 7/21/2022 at 8:26 AM, SoCal Deek said: If I was a betting man I’d say the majority of states will end up with a first trimester limit on abortion. I bet you would lose that bet On 8/31/2022 at 9:46 PM, TSOL said: Between 6-800,000 abortions per year in this country depending on whose numbers you look at. That's more than COVID "killed" in it's first year. Why you hate baby's so much That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: lol I bet you would lose that bet That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is Oh brother. Keep right on cheering for abortion Tibs! (Not a good look.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. It's just so immoral though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, TSOL said: You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. It's just so immoral though. I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion? Is there anything we should impose on… men? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion? Is there anything we should impose on… men? Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, TSOL said: Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? If the concern was truly about elective pregnancies, the GOP would push root cause mitigations. But it’s not, so they don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, TSOL said: Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? Answer the question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: If the concern was truly about elective pregnancies, the GOP would push root cause mitigations. But it’s not, so they don’t. It's a really tough issue for many people on a spiritual level. I understand that the cat is not going back in the bag. Not to claim some sort of moral high ground, none of us are perfect. It's just a tough issue from a morality standpoint, for me, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, TSOL said: It's a really tough issue for many people on a spiritual level. I understand that the cat is not going back in the bag. Not to claim some sort of moral high ground, none of us are perfect. It's just a tough issue from a morality standpoint, for me, and many others. I get that. And if one’s goal was to fix what they viewed as a problem, they should conduct a root cause analysis or study. If the problem is elective abortions, then we should ask: why are people getting elective abortions? There are likely many different reasons and I know there are studies on this very topic as well. If we’re not addressing the root causes of a problem, we’re are only treating the symptoms and not solving the problem. Best part is, many liberals would support policies combating some of the root causes, so there’s bipartisan potential there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I get that. And if one’s goal was to fix what they viewed as a problem, they should conduct a root cause analysis or study. If the problem is elective abortions, then we should ask: why are people getting elective abortions? There are likely many different reasons and I know there are studies on this very topic as well. If we’re not addressing the root causes of a problem, we’re are only treating the symptoms and not solving the problem. Best part is, many liberals would support policies combating some of the root causes, so there’s bipartisan potential there. Make them cost $3500 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, BillStime said: I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion? Is there anything we should impose on… men? Okay….I’m game….what would you suggest we impose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Okay….I’m game….what would you suggest we impose? You tell us what you’re willing to give - go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh brother. Keep right on cheering for abortion Tibs! (Not a good look.) You just make sure you stay consistent! We don't want you guys losing your morals just to win. 15 hours ago, TSOL said: You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. It's just so immoral though. You anti-abortion people really screwed the GOP over. Keep up the good work! On 11/7/2022 at 5:36 PM, B-Man said: Absolutely Dobbs Was Worth It BY: DAVID HARSANYI There’s little evidence the Dobbs decision is sinking Republicans Good old Federalist society! They pick our judges for us. Idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You just make sure you stay consistent! We don't want you guys losing your morals just to win. You anti-abortion people really screwed the GOP over. Keep up the good work! Good old Federalist society! They pick our judges for us. Idiots! I'm uncomfortable in a society where abortions are so popular. Also, the fact that planned Parenthood are strategically situated in the projects and on main bus routes across our nation, is seriously disturbing. But you guys get the baby killer vote so you should be so proud of yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, TSOL said: I'm uncomfortable in a society where abortions are so popular. Also, the fact that planned Parenthood are strategically situated in the projects and on main bus routes across our nation, is seriously disturbing. But you guys get the baby killer vote so you should be so proud of yourselves So we can put you down as a YES for mandatory vasectomies for each male when they reach puberty that is only reversible when they are ready to start a family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: So we can put you down as a YES for mandatory vasectomies for each male when they reach puberty that is only reversible when they are ready to start a family? Sure, and I'll check you off in the "morally bankrupt" column. Fair enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: Sure, and I'll check you off in the "morally bankrupt" column. Fair enough? Everyone has an opinion - congrats. So let us know when you come off your moral high ground and continue to legislate WOMEN and not the issue. ps: how does your moral high ground square with the issue of guns and mass shootings? Have you notice that it all comes back to YOU and what YOU want YOU get all all cost. #hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Make them 3500 bucks. If the 16 year old couple can't afford it they can apply for a no interest govt loan which they have to pay back 300 a month for 3 years. There needs to be concrete consequences to ending a human life. It needs not to be like going to the McDonald's drive through window. And of course if it's due to criminal circumstances then the woman/girl is not financially responsible. Issue solved, you're welcome and have a nice day. Just now, BillStime said: Everyone has an opinion - congrats. So let us know when you come off your moral high ground and continue to legislate WOMEN and not the issue. ps: how does your moral high ground square with the issue of guns and mass shootings? Have you notice that it all comes back to YOU and what YOU want YOU get all all cost. #hypocrisy Barf. You're stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: Make them 3500 bucks. If the 16 year old couple can't afford it they can apply for a no interest govt loan which they have to pay back 300 a month for 3 years. There needs to be concrete consequences to ending a human life. It needs not to be like going to the McDonald's drive through window. And of course if it's due to criminal circumstances then the woman/girl is not financially responsible. Issue solved, you're welcome and have a nice day. Now do guns 1 minute ago, TSOL said: Make them 3500 bucks. If the 16 year old couple can't afford it they can apply for a no interest govt loan which they have to pay back 300 a month for 3 years. There needs to be concrete consequences to ending a human life. It needs not to be like going to the McDonald's drive through window. And of course if it's due to criminal circumstances then the woman/girl is not financially responsible. Issue solved, you're welcome and have a nice day. Barf. You're stupid 👆No morals at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Now do guns 👆No morals at all. Stewpid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: So we can put you down as a YES for mandatory vasectomies for each male when they reach puberty that is only reversible when they are ready to start a family? So if I understand your ridiculous position correctly, you believe that every pregnancy is the result of a rape? Well at least we know where you stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: So if I understand your ridiculous position correctly, you believe that every pregnancy is the result of a rape? Well at least we know where you stand. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So if I understand your ridiculous position correctly, you believe that every pregnancy is the result of a rape? Well at least we know where you stand. He doesn't stand. He kneels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: He doesn't stand. He kneels It’s become way passed the point of ridiculous now. He/she/they has created more subsets of the human race that he/she/they are willing to stand up for, except for the weakest, most voiceless subset of them all….a defenseless, pre-born human. Absolutely stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s become way passed the point of ridiculous now. He/she/they has created more subsets of the human race that he/she/they are willing to stand up for, except for the weakest, most voiceless subset of them all….a defenseless, pre-born human. Absolutely stunning! Sadly, the person we are referring to, is a microcosm of our morally bankrupt society. Someone has to be a voice for the voiceless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s become way passed the point of ridiculous now. He/she/they has created more subsets of the human race that he/she/they are willing to stand up for, except for the weakest, most voiceless subset of them all….a defenseless, pre-born human. Absolutely stunning! What’s absolutely stunning is the fact that you and @TSOLjust want to bich about the problem - not help solve it. classic GQP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: What’s absolutely stunning is the fact that you and @TSOLjust want to bich about the problem - not help solve it. classic GQP I solved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, TSOL said: I solved it. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: What’s absolutely stunning is the fact that you and @TSOLjust want to bich about the problem - not help solve it. classic GQP And the ‘problem’ that needs solving is the existence of children? Nice! You do realize that they’re PEOPLE….not a disease….right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: How so? Make I cost a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And the ‘problem’ that needs solving is the existence of children? Nice! You do realize that they’re PEOPLE….not a disease….right? Please stop - you don’t care about children. Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: Please stop - you don’t care about children. Just stop. Stupid is dangerous Stupid has consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: Please stop - you don’t care about children. Just stop. And yet another ridiculous response. How many children do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And yet another ridiculous response. How many children do you have? Why is it ridiculous? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. And what do my children have to do with this discussion other than I don’t want their heads getting blown off at school or a grocery store because of the GOP obsessions with guns? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, TSOL said: Make them 3500 bucks. If the 16 year old couple can't afford it they can apply for a no interest govt loan which they have to pay back 300 a month for 3 years. There needs to be concrete consequences to ending a human life. It needs not to be like going to the McDonald's drive through window. And of course if it's due to criminal circumstances then the woman/girl is not financially responsible. Issue solved, you're welcome and have a nice day. Barf. You're stupid You clowns should put that out there. Tax women's health care. That will get you brain dead morons back in power. Go for it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You clowns should put that out there. Tax women's health care. That will get you brain dead morons back in power. Go for it! Why are all the planned Parenthood a in super poor neighborhoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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