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21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t live far from there and have been there in general (I love it btw) but never to a game. WVU needs to join the Big Ten. 

So does Pitt.

 

Imagine Penn State-Pitt as a conference game.

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Not sure how much they are "floundering." I don't know, maybe they are but I saw what Sarkisian did at Alabama and he really did a tremendous job. If I recall, he was even very helpful in recruiting Bryce Young. 

I have missed on many QBs (not Josh Allen lol) so I am probably dead wrong, but; I fail to see anything special in Manning. In fact, I did not want the Tide to sign him. They already have 3 qbs who I consider very solid.

The kid that I am really interested in is Ryan Downes at IMG because there is a slight family connection. The kid is huge and brilliant. He is an incoming sophmore and I'm really looking forward to see what he can do.

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With what is clearly an annual majority migration of top college prospects to the SEC, them pulling a sort of LIV golf maneuver on the NCAA and splinter off to reap more of their own rewards must be alluring to them, as they could easily stand on their own with their soon to be 16 teams.

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On 6/24/2022 at 12:47 PM, I am the egg man said:

With what is clearly an annual majority migration of top college prospects to the SEC, them pulling a sort of LIV golf maneuver on the NCAA and splinter off to reap more of their own rewards must be alluring to them, as they could easily stand on their own with their soon to be 16 teams.

 

 

Manning wouldn't be playing in the SEC until his Junior year.

 

On 6/25/2022 at 12:07 PM, YoloinOhio said:

They have Quinn Ewers too… and Maalik Murphy…

 

I thought Ewers was going to be lighting it up at OSU...

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6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Manning wouldn't be playing in the SEC until his Junior year.

 

 

I thought Ewers was going to be lighting it up at OSU...

He lit up his wallet by reclassifying so he could be eligible for NIL, but got to Columbus way too late - Mid august, then got covid, went home for awhile, etc - to have an opportunity to play any meaningful snaps on 2021. Then he knew he wasn’t unseating Stroud this year so he left. 

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12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He lit up his wallet by reclassifying so he could be eligible for NIL, but got to Columbus way too late - Mid august, then got covid, went home for awhile, etc - to have an opportunity to play any meaningful snaps on 2021. Then he knew he wasn’t unseating Stroud this year so he left. 

 

Why Texas though?  It's not QB school.

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He is from there and was originally committed there before he flipped to Ohio state. Also Sark offense is a big draw for QBs

 

lol  you said he went to OSU because QBs like to play for Ryan Day!

 

Sark was a dud last year--his season included a loss to the Kansas (1-8) Mens basketball team (56-57)...at home.  Herman (another Broyles Award winner) had  4 Bowl wins in 4 seasons---and they fired him.

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol  you said he went to OSU because QBs like to play for Ryan Day!

 

Sark was a dud last year--his season included a loss to the Kansas (1-8) Mens basketball team (56-57)...at home.  Herman (another Broyles Award winner) had  4 Bowl wins in 4 seasons---and they fired him.

Yes, Qbs do like to play for Ryan Day. However, he wasn’t going to play as soon as he wanted.

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7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:


Will he play as soon as he wants at Texas? Will Manning?

No one knows who will win the job or how good either of them are or will turn out to be. I believe they were both considered 100.0 (perfect) prospects in recruiting rankings. Both have red flags though.

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53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

No one knows who will win the job or how good either of them are or will turn out to be. I believe they were both considered 100.0 (perfect) prospects in recruiting rankings. Both have red flags though.


It always seems odd to me that too QB recruits with NFL aspirations would head to schools like Texas and OSU.  

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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:


It always seems odd to me that too QB recruits with NFL aspirations would head to schools like Texas and OSU.  

Absurd WR talent and a pro style, pass heavy offense at Ohio State plus a former NFL QB coach at HC

 

I don’t know much about Texas’s WRs but  they should be recruiting well given the talent in that state and Sark throws the ball a lot too 

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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Absurd WR talent and a pro style, pass heavy offense at Ohio State plus a former NFL QB coach at HC

 

I don’t know much about Texas’s WRs but  they should be recruiting well given the talent in that state and Sark throws the ball a lot too 

 

None of that seems to translate into significant NFL success for these QBs.  Texas hasn't been very relevant for years, despite the HS talent in the state.

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

None of that seems to translate into significant NFL success for these QBs.  Texas hasn't been very relevant for years, despite the HS talent in the state.

Too small of a sample size to determine nfl success for a Day QB. He has one QB who played in his system who had been the NFL for one season (Fields). He was Haskins Qb coach and Burrow’s QB coach for 2 years but it was Urban’s offense and burrow didn’t play any significant time in it. 
 

sark just got to Texas last year so can’t hold Herman’s recruiting failures against him, but if he doesn’t hit it out of the park with all that talent In Texas he will be gone too. Especially since he’s going to be in the SEC soon. 

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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Too small of a sample size to determine nfl success for a Day QB. He has one QB who played in his system who had been the NFL for one season (Fields). He was Haskins Qb coach and Burrow’s QB coach for 2 years but it was Urban’s offense and burrow didn’t play any significant time in it. 
 

sark just got to Texas last year so can’t hold Herman’s recruiting failures against him, but if he doesn’t hit it out of the park with all that talent In Texas he will be gone too. Especially since he’s going to be in the SEC soon. 

 

Herman had no losing seasons. 

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On 6/29/2022 at 7:28 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Herman had no losing seasons. 

Not good enough for the Texas program. The expectations for programs like that are no more than 1 loss per year, conference championships, beat the rival, recruit best talent in-state and nationally, and challenge for national titles. He didn’t do any of that, other than maybe beating Oklahoma at some point. I’ve always thought he was a good OC. But he’s not well thought of as an HC and he’s now as “offensive analyst” for the Bears. 

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25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Not good enough for the Texas program. The expectations for programs like that are no more than 1 loss per year, conference championships, beat the rival, recruit best talent in-state and nationally, and challenge for national titles. He didn’t do any of that, other than maybe beating Oklahoma at some point. I’ve always thought he was a good OC. But he’s not well thought of as an HC and he’s now as “offensive analyst” for the Bears. 

 

 

Those expectations haven't been met in 14 years.  Herman was the only bright spot for that program for all those years.  It's a program that exited the national championship discussion a while ago.  Sark had their first losing record in their last 5 seasons. 

 

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