Doc Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Can you smell it? That's called "desperation." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Ah but it’s ok for Trump - right hack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 After the Jan. 6 Committee finishes, maybe a GOP Congress can probe some actual ‘threats to democracy.’ by Glenn Reynolds https://nypost.com/2022/10/21/after-the-jan-6-committee-finishes-maybe-a-gop-congress-can-probe-some-actual-threats-to-democracy/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 17 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: 👆🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hurry @ChiGoose. link to another Axios or huffpost article before telling us again how much of a hack Julie Kelly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Hurry @ChiGoose. link to another Axios or huffpost article before telling us again how much of a hack Julie Kelly is. I am flattered, but I told you I am happily married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I am flattered, but I told you I am happily married. Now, now we've just missed all your insightful takes from above the fray from our favorite "former republican" poster. Cmon man. I'm interested in your takes on the J6 interview transcripts of "testimony under oath" that you were so certain were coming in September. Please give us your take. What juicy bits were revealed? Edited October 23, 2022 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Now, now we've just missed all your insightful takes from above the fray from our favorite "former republican" poster. Cmon man. I'm interested in your takes on the J6 interview transcripts of "testimony under oath" that you were so certain were coming in September. Please give us your take. What juicy bits were revealed? Well you all have been complaining about it being one sided and now they’ve subpoenaed Trump to testify. He can finally get to tell his side, under oath. Are you excited? Or do you realize he’s not gonna do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Well you all have been complaining about it being one sided and now they’ve subpoenaed Trump to testify. He can finally get to tell his side, under oath. Are you excited? Or do you realize he’s not gonna do it? Great stuff. Now what's your take on President Biden's dementia? Real or hoax? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, BillsFanNC said: Great stuff. Now what's your take on President Biden's dementia? Real or hoax? I’m not a doctor. He’s certainly lost his fastball but I’ve had family members with dementia and he’s nowhere near as bad as them. Tripping up on words as an elderly person who struggled with a stutter isn’t necessarily dementia. That being said, I’d prefer if he didn’t run for re-election. But hey, at least he isn’t stupid enough to steal government documents, so he’s got that going for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I’m not a doctor. He’s certainly lost his fastball but I’ve had family members with dementia and he’s nowhere near as bad as them. Tripping up on words as an elderly person who struggled with a stutter isn’t necessarily dementia. That being said, I’d prefer if he didn’t run for re-election. But hey, at least he isn’t stupid enough to steal government documents, so he’s got that going for him. "I'm not a doctor" . Check Stutter. Check. He's just getting old. Check. Bringing up Trump when asked about Bidens clear dementia. Check. You've got the clown left talking points down. Congrats on once again being "above it all" As for your other contention that the Trump subpoena somehow makes the sham committee fair is once again laughable. Did I miss where Pelosi appointed some new non RINO members to the committee? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: "I'm not a doctor" . Check Stutter. Check. He's just getting old. Check. Bringing up Trump when asked about Bidens clear dementia. Check. You've got the clown left talking points down. Congrats on once again being "above it all" As for your other contention that the Trump subpoena somehow makes the sham committee fair is once again laughable. Did I miss where Pelosi appointed some new non RINO members to the committee? She agreed to three people McCarthy wanted and then he withdrew them either because he’s an idiot or because he felt it would allow idiots to claim that it was Pelosi’s fault there were only two republicans on the committee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: She agreed to three people McCarthy wanted and then he withdrew them either because he’s an idiot or because he felt it would allow idiots to claim that it was Pelosi’s fault there were only two republicans on the committee. What an interesting partisan way to frame it. What actually happened is that Pelosi rejected two of his choices, Jordan and Banks, and he rightly withdrew his entire list. With it being such a slam dunk case why would Pelosi object to any pesky Republicans asking their wacky conspiracy theory fueled questions? That's the funny thing about achieving something remotely close to being bipartisan You know you've achieved it when each side isn't happy with some of the appointees on the other side. The dems were and are absolutely thrilled with every single member on the committee. Therefore bipartisan it is not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: What an interesting partisan way to frame it. What actually happened is that Pelosi rejected two of his choices, Jordan and Banks, and he rightly withdrew his entire list. With it being such a slam dunk case why would Pelosi object to any pesky Republicans asking their wacky conspiracy theory fueled questions? That's the funny thing about achieving something remotely close to being bipartisan You know you've achieved it when each side isn't happy with some of the appointees on the other side. The dems were and are absolutely thrilled with every single member on the committee. Therefore bipartisan it is not. LOL. Drinking the Kool Aid, I see. Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan because she suspected they might have been involved in the events leading up to Jan 6 so them serving on the committee would have been a conflict. She would have seated the rest of McCarthy‘s slate. I guess the 9/11 commission was partisan because we didn’t have any Al Qaeda terrorists on it to give their perspective. The Warren Commission was partisan because they didn’t have Lee Harvey Oswald on it (or whoever was on the grassy knoll if you’re one of those people). Every single witness who testified to the committee was either a Republican or non-partisan. If they wanted it to be more bipartisan, they should have had more Democrats testify, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: LOL. Drinking the Kool Aid, I see. Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan because she suspected they might have been involved in the events leading up to Jan 6 so them serving on the committee would have been a conflict. She would have seated the rest of McCarthy‘s slate. I guess the 9/11 commission was partisan because we didn’t have any Al Qaeda terrorists on it to give their perspective. The Warren Commission was partisan because they didn’t have Lee Harvey Oswald on it (or whoever was on the grassy knoll if you’re one of those people). Every single witness who testified to the committee was either a Republican or non-partisan. If they wanted it to be more bipartisan, they should have had more Democrats testify, I guess. Oh so Pelosi suspected Jordan and Banks were involved? Oh my. Well now if Nancy Pelosi has suspicions then stop the presses! Why are Nancy Pelosi’s suspicions legitimate grounds for well anything at all? The same Nancy Pelosi who rejected national guard assistance prior to J6 has suspicions about OTHER members of congress involvement in J6? Partisan hack says what again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Oh so Pelosi suspected Jordan and Banks were involved? Oh my. Well now if Nancy Pelosi has suspicions then stop the presses! Why are Nancy Pelosi’s suspicions legitimate grounds for well anything at all? The same Nancy Pelosi who rejected national guard assistance prior to J6 has suspicions about OTHER members of congress involvement in J6? Partisan hack says what again? …she’s the Speaker of the House. She decides who sits on select committees. Like, this isn’t hard, dude. Also, you seem to believe something that is very much not true: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: …she’s the Speaker of the House. She decides who sits on select committees. Like, this isn’t hard, dude. That's not what I said. I asked why her suspicions are legitimate grounds in making ANY decision? This isn't hard dude. 5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Also, you seem to believe something that is very much not true: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/ Oh fact checkers! From USA Today? You've got me. It's too bad we actually have the Capitol police memos made public that tell us exactly how things went down. I mean that's your thing right? Just read the documents, right? Or is it USA Today fact checkers? Cue the Kash Patel grifter crap despite all this being directly from the Capitol police memos themselves. "The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year — that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: That's not what I said. I asked why her suspicions are legitimate grounds in making ANY decision? This isn't hard dude. Oh fact checkers! From USA Today? You've got me. It's too bad we actually have the Capitol police memos made public that tell us exactly how things went down. I mean that's your thing right? Just read the documents, right? Or is it USA Today fact checkers? Cue the Kash Patel grifter crap despite all this being directly from the Capitol police memos themselves. "The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year — that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up." Where in the article or the documents does it say that Pelosi rejected the request? It looks like the Sgt At Arms rejected it. And if Pelosi really did reject the help (which does not appear to be the case) and you think that’s bad, I wonder what you think about Trump rejecting calls to put an end to the violence for hours. I’m sure that as logical straight shooter, you’re even more upset at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Where in the article or the documents does it say that Pelosi rejected the request? It looks like the Sgt At Arms rejected it. How did I know this was the hill you were going to die on? So you're going to go with Nancy Pelosi's direct report didn't loop her in on something as big as multiple NG troop requests for the Capitol? 20,000 NG troop approval for the Capitol pre-approved by DoD? I'll just unilaterally make that call...multiple times...and not ask my boss for input. You're an absolute clown and not a partisan hack at all! 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: And if Pelosi really did reject the help (which does not appear to be the case) and you think that’s bad, I wonder what you think about Trump rejecting calls to put an end to the violence for hours. I’m sure that as logical straight shooter, you’re even more upset at that. I wonder what you think about Trump asking people to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard before any violence occurred? That was just code for do the insurrection, amirite? I wonder what you think about all the videos showing Capitol police opening doors for people to enter? That's just a problem that will one day be rectified, right? I wonder what you think about a Trump supporter MAGA hat wearing insurrectionist going around Washington on J5 and J6 encouraging others to break the law and go into the Capitol in addition to being caught on video outside the capitol helping the crowd shove a large Trump sign into a line of police officers and why he hasn't been charged with anything? Beyond that I wonder what you think about the left and their willingness to vehemently defend this single solitary Trump supporter? Seems odd doesn't it? As a logical straight shooter who is above the partisan fray I'm sure you'll acknowledge none of the above jives quite well with your insurrection narrative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Also when the 12th of never arrives and we get to read the testimony of the house sergeant at arms in front of the J6 committee I'm sure that the record will show that they asked him about the requests and who, if anyone, he consulted in making the decision to reject the troops multiple times. I'm certain those questions were asked. No doubt about it. Well at least I have suspicions and that apparently is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Also when the 12th of never arrives and we get to read the testimony of the house sergeant at arms in front of the J6 committee I'm sure that the record will show that they asked him about the requests and who, if anyone, he consulted in making the decision to reject the troops multiple times. I'm certain those questions were asked. No doubt about it. Well at least I have suspicions and that apparently is good enough. You do know that the committee ends at the end of the Congress, right? So even if they’re hiding the ball and never release a report (which I doubt), when the GOP likely takes over, McCarthy can just release everything. One way or the other, we will see the testimonies. Then again, McCarthy is a moron so he may find a way to screw this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: You do know that the committee ends at the end of the Congress, right? So even if they’re hiding the ball and never release a report (which I doubt), when the GOP likely takes over, McCarthy can just release everything. One way or the other, we will see the testimonies. Then again, McCarthy is a moron so he may find a way to screw this up. You do realize that partisans on both sides will come up with reasons not to release it, right? I forgot politicians are inherently noble and are always motivated by a dogged desire to just find the truth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: You do realize that partisans on both sides will come up with reasons not to release it, right? I forgot politicians are inherently noble and are always motivated by a dogged desire to just find the truth! Boy, you seem to be obsessed with straw man arguments almost as much as you’re obsessed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, ChiGoose said: Boy, you seem to be obsessed with straw man arguments almost as much as you’re obsessed with me. Uh huh. From the guy who has often said that the J6 committee isn't political and is only after the truth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 The J6 committee has been a massive failure and actually ended-up convincing people of the opposite of its intended effect. Meanwhile those who served on it are being expunged from the ranks. I hope it was worth it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Doc said: The J6 committee has been a massive failure and actually ended-up convincing people of the opposite of its intended effect. Meanwhile those who served on it are being expunged from the ranks. I hope it was worth it. Jan 6th committee polling: 40% more likely to vote Dem 31% more likely to vote Rep 29% no effect I wonder if those more inclined to the GOP were just really impressed with all of the witnesses, who were almost all Republicans… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I’m not a doctor. He’s certainly lost his fastball but I’ve had family members with dementia and he’s nowhere near as bad as them. Tripping up on words as an elderly person who struggled with a stutter isn’t necessarily dementia. That being said, I’d prefer if he didn’t run for re-election. But hey, at least he isn’t stupid enough to steal government documents, so he’s got that going for him. I agree there are more severe cases of cognitive decline than we see with Biden on a daily basis. Assuming he was responsible for only for enjoying his retirement years, in his current condition I think most of like suggest he’s doing ok for an old codger. Of course, he benefits from the access to the highest quality health care in the world, without regard to cost, travel and etc. Seems we see his absolute best. Now, he has lost track of where his son died, Chi, and his son died 7 years ago. He drifts off mid conversation and loses track of his thoughts. He mumbles unintelligibly frequently. To be fair, I don’t know if he actually suffers from dementia or Alzheimer’s, but it’s hard to watch him deteriorate and I am no fan of Biden. Using your fast ball analogy, he must not have pitched beyond T ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Jan 6th committee polling: 40% more likely to vote Dem 31% more likely to vote Rep 29% no effect I wonder if those more inclined to the GOP were just really impressed with all of the witnesses, who were almost all Republicans… When is this supposedly going to happen? Do you think it’s going to prevent both houses from flipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Doc said: When is this supposedly going to happen? Do you think it’s going to prevent both houses from flipping? No, I think the impact of the Jan 6 committee on the election will be minimal. Just wanted to dispel the false narrative that it’s convinced everyone to vote GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: No, I think the impact of the Jan 6 committee on the election will be minimal. Just wanted to dispel the false narrative that it’s convinced everyone to vote GOP. I never said that. I said that it changed peoples minds on whether it was an insurrection versus a protest that turned into a spontaneous riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I agree there are more severe cases of cognitive decline than we see with Biden on a daily basis. Assuming he was responsible for only for enjoying his retirement years, in his current condition I think most of like suggest he’s doing ok for an old codger. Of course, he benefits from the access to the highest quality health care in the world, without regard to cost, travel and etc. Seems we see his absolute best. Now, he has lost track of where his son died, Chi, and his son died 7 years ago. He drifts off mid conversation and loses track of his thoughts. He mumbles unintelligibly frequently. To be fair, I don’t know if he actually suffers from dementia or Alzheimer’s, but it’s hard to watch him deteriorate and I am no fan of Biden. Using your fast ball analogy, he must not have pitched beyond T ball. It's beyond the speaking gaffes. Its the doddering posture. It's trying to shake hands with imaginary people. It's wandering off stage into areas he clearly isn't supposed to go. He is losing it. It will only get worse. Denying this reality only tags those who shouldn't be taken seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It's beyond the speaking gaffes. Its the doddering posture. It's trying to shake hands with imaginary people. It's wandering off stage into areas he clearly isn't supposed to go. He is losing it. It will only get worse. Denying this reality only tags those who shouldn't be taken seriously. Maybe they should feed Joe some addy like they do Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It's beyond the speaking gaffes. Its the doddering posture. It's trying to shake hands with imaginary people. It's wandering off stage into areas he clearly isn't supposed to go. He is losing it. It will only get worse. Denying this reality only tags those who shouldn't be taken seriously. I’m uncertain only of whether or not he would be clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer’s or Dementia. In this case, it’s irrelevant because anyone with a heart and brain knew he wasn’t up for the task when he was running. But, he was the savior of the party according to many liberal voters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m uncertain only of whether or not he would be clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer’s or Dementia. In this case, it’s irrelevant because anyone with a heart and brain knew he wasn’t up for the task when he was running. But, he was the savior of the party according to many liberal voters. It was him or the guy who just decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die because he couldn’t even be bothered to care about a pandemic. Easy choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It was him or the guy who just decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die because he couldn’t even be bothered to care about a pandemic. Easy choice. Take a look at the number of deaths for Covid under Trumps Presidency……..okay did you do that? Now take a look of the number under Bidens presidency…..which number is greater? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It was him or the guy who just decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die because he couldn’t even be bothered to care about a pandemic. Easy choice. Ok let's go on covid epidemiology and immunology. Seriously bring it. Bring your clown world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It was him or the guy who just decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die because he couldn’t even be bothered to care about a pandemic. How incredibly dishonest. Even those who dislike President Trump and his policies know that what goose wrote was excrement. We all lived through this, your weak revisionism will get Billsy off but that’s about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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