cba fan Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Listen if you want a dome because you don't want to embrace the elements just say it Don't make it about being used for events all year because that's not happening... Jerry world the biggest and best dome in the world... Has 7 events planned for all of 2022... There aren't a lot of stadium events going on around the country... And there's not going to be at one in Buffalo... It's a football stadium it should be built for the best football all large events are at an all time low due to Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, cba fan said: Carrier dome was engineered to hold a roof. Adding a replacement did not need much new structural support. For example Highmark is an open air design and the top footprint is very wide and long and whole stadium is laid back as it does not need to support a roof. Domes have higher taller grade so roof is manageable for cost and engineering safety. Study shows new Bills stadium could be engineered to hold a roof in the future by building it with support for the roof. Study says this would be about 118 million.(ironic they list same number as Carrier new roof cost if this is true) And would likely change the configuration making it taller, making supports sunk as needed for future weight support etc etc....... More cost effective to do the roof now but Owners, State, and County, have already decided it is open air. Even though all polls show 70 to 85% of fans want a Dome the owners and state keep saying fans want open air. Weird. Wrong statement. And depending on your opinion, dumb. Bills roll with passing O that Allen is not good in when going against the win. Bills have best chance when Allen is at his best, which is in good weather. Allen has had good games in adverse weather He hit stefon diggs 60 yards down the field in 50 mph winds.. no quarterback alive could do that besides him 1 minute ago, cba fan said: all large events are at an all time low due to Covid. There's not a lot of large stadium events going on pre-covid either There's a huge difference between selling out an arena like first Niagara and A stadium like the Ralph Edited January 15, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Wacka said: And the snow weight. Remember what happened in Minn. apples and oranges. MN was fabric air supported and prone to tears from ice. They are no longer built. And the ones still in use have converted to solid roof. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Allen has had good games in adverse weather He hit stefon diggs 60 yards down the field in 50 mph winds.. no quarterback alive could do that besides him wind took that ball and pushed it to Diggs left causing him to lose track as it hit his arms and he dropped it for game changing possibly wining TD on MNF vs Pats. Edited January 15, 2022 by cba fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Baba Booey said: Answer me this, why is the Super Bowl played down south or in a stadium with a roof? One was in New Jersey and they got lucky that it got through ok!! Because the Super Bowl is 1000% about the NFL and it's corporate sponsors. The sponsors, who get the lion's share of the tickets, B word when the game isn't somewhere they want to go. It's ALL about corporate hob knobbing and knob bobbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cba fan said: apples and oranges. MN was fabric air supported and prone to tears from ice. They are no longer built. And the ones still in use have converted to solid roof. wind took that ball and pushed it to Diggs left causing him to lose track as it hit his arms and he dropped it for game changing possibly wining TD on MNF vs Pats. I've explained this a thousand times why we're never going to get a dome and why it's not bad for us outside First of all we have a quarterback who will outplay the other team's quarterback 95% of times in adverse weather.. his dual threat abilities make him almost unstoppable Second.. a dome will just allow lesser quarterbacks to come here in the playoffs and have a great game and steal a victory.. the only fact is there's a lot of talented NFL quarterbacks and they could play the game of their life in that dome.. The chances of them coming to the Ralph in January in not good conditions and playing a great game... Are slim to none It's not about helping us it's about hurting them a lot more.. which is statistically proven by our 11 and 1 home record at the Ralph Edited January 15, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 11:36 PM, Jrb1979 said: That's at the current cheap ticket price. What happens when PSLs and higher ticket prices come into play? I'm not so sure they will fill the place when that happens. Bills will sell to ticket agencies which sell packages to opposing fans to fill it. 32 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Because the Super Bowl is 1000% about the NFL and it's corporate sponsors. The sponsors, who get the lion's share of the tickets, B word when the game isn't somewhere they want to go. It's ALL about corporate hob knobbing and knob bobbing. If it 1000% in one Superbowl it has to be 0% in next 9 to make math work. NFL does not run on deficit spending like US government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 19 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I can guarantee you the Super Bowl isn't played in warm weather or domes to get "good football" or whatever you're implying. It's because the corporate/NFL elite who actually attend that game want to do it somewhere warm and nice in winter. Period. Why do corporations across America set up "winter meetings" on a golf course in FL? Same reason. Name one cold weather city that has had. Super bowl without a dome? Beside NJ. Look at bigger pic for Better Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) On 1/15/2022 at 3:33 PM, Buffalo716 said: I've explained this a thousand times why we're never going to get a dome and why it's not bad for us outside First of all we have a quarterback who will outplay the other team's quarterback 95% of times in adverse weather.. his dual threat abilities make him almost unstoppable Second.. a dome will just allow lesser quarterbacks to come here in the playoffs and have a great game and steal a victory.. the only fact is there's a lot of talented NFL quarterbacks and they could play the game of their life in that dome.. The chances of them coming to the Ralph in January in not good conditions and playing a great game... Are slim to none It's not about helping us it's about hurting them a lot more.. which is statistically proven by our 11 and 1 home record at the Ralph It won't be too long into new stadium life that Allen will not be able to run like he does now. He might only have 1 good year of running left by the time new stadium opens. Allen passing is better in dome and all around play is better. I will bet on Allen. Edited January 19, 2022 by cba fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, cba fan said: it wont be too long into new stadium life that Allen will not be able to run like he does now. He might only have 1 good year or running left by the new stadium opens. Allen passing is better in dome and all around play is better. I will bet on Allen. It's not happening it will never happen and statistics prove our home field advantage is because of conditions Josh Allen's lost in perfect conditions.. it's not like he's automatically Mr perfect in good weather He's undefeated at home in the Ralph in the playoffs, in the conditions.. Lamar couldn't play here neither could Mac Jones and neither could Phillip Rivers well It's about making them worse Edited January 19, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: It's not happening it will never happen and statistics prove our home field advantage is because of conditions Josh Allen's lost in perfect conditions He's undefeated at home in the Ralph in the conditions.. Lamar couldn't play here neither could Mac Jones and neither could Phillip Rivers well Allen and Bills lost to Colts and Pats just this year in the conditions. And played poor in other games in the conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, cba fan said: Allen and Bills lost to Colts and Pats just this year in the conditions. And played poor in other games in the conditions. We didn't play well The bills are 12 and 1 all time at home in the playoffs at the Ralph In bad conditions When it matters most we absolutely play better than most teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: There was a recent'ish SB in NJ wasn't there? Did you read my post??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) I can’t wait for the new open air stadium so we can weed out all of the babies in this fanbase 🍼 . Disgraceful. Edited January 19, 2022 by Rampage 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rampage said: I can’t wait for the new open air stadium so we can weed out all of the babies in this fanbase 🍼 . Disgraceful. I know right?? The weather doesn’t impact my game day experience at all…. On my TV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Rampage said: I can’t wait for the new open air stadium so we can weed out all of the babies in this fanbase 🍼 . Disgraceful. Yeah, so you 'paper tough guys' can go to a game in person and watch something less than pure football....so when it is snowing, or has strong winds....you get 75% of the playbook or more that can't be used and we see a bastardized version of football. Smart, really smart...but hey, if you think it makes you tough and other people babies...then you just keep thinking that. 🤣 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, mjd1001 said: Yeah, so you 'paper tough guys' can go to a game in person and watch something less than pure football....so when it is snowing, or has strong winds....you get 75% of the playbook or more that can't be used and we see a bastardized version of football. Smart, really smart...but hey, if you think it makes you tough and other people babies...then you just keep thinking that. 🤣 Absolutely not going to question your fan Hood based on whether you want a dome or outdoor stadium But I have reels of games from the 40s some from 30s.. obviously tons from the 60s and 70s Pure football is and always has been played in the elements 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Absolutely not going to question your fan Hood based on whether you want a dome or outdoor stadium But I have reels of games from the 40s some from 30s.. obviously tons from the 60s and 70s Pure football is and always has been played in the elements But it just isn't. It doesn't matter how thing were 'done in the past', but the game played with all options open...with the players top level skill not being diminished, with the coaches having 100% of their playbook open and able to be used...simply is not in bad weather. Everytime a game is played in bad weather, more athleticism and coaching options are taken away than are added by the conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: But it just isn't. It doesn't matter how thing were 'done in the past', but the game played with all options open...with the players top level skill not being diminished, with the coaches having 100% of their playbook open and able to be used...simply is not in bad weather. Everytime a game is played in bad weather, more athleticism and coaching options are taken away than are added by the conditions. That has nothing to do with what is pure or not in the game of football What's pure in football is tackling running coaching catching and execution And nothing is more pure than seeing that happen to perfection like on Saturday outside in winter It's Pure magic which makes football the best sport in the world Edited January 20, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Absolutely not going to question your fan Hood based on whether you want a dome or outdoor stadium But I have reels of games from the 40s some from 30s.. obviously tons from the 60s and 70s Pure football is and always has been played in the elements If they had the technology and financial resources to build domed stadiums in the 40's and 50's they would have. The 'elements' are mostly sunshine and calm winds because most games are played in Sept and Oct. November games in nice climate cities are also comfortable. Bad weather games are the minority. Every new stadium should have a retractable dome, and it should be closed only if the weather would have an extreme impact on the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, klos63 said: If they had the technology and financial resources to build domed stadiums in the 40's and 50's they would have. The 'elements' are mostly sunshine and calm winds because most games are played in Sept and Oct. November games in nice climate cities are also comfortable. Bad weather games are the minority. Thats why dome here doesn't even make much sense We only have so many beautiful days a year here in Buffalo I don't want to spend my few nice Sundays in a dome... To be honest When it gets to December January I will brave it out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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