SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Why do people keep on saying this? People are leaving California. Businesses are leaving California but they’re being replaced by other people and businesses coming in. California has its issues but it’s basically its own country. No other state compares to California has its issues but it’s basically its own country. No other state compares to it they literally could live on their own. with no help from anybody else the people in California pay for the taxes for people in other states. John I wonder how long you’ve lived in California. If you can’t see the rapid decline, you are truly blind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: John I wonder how long you’ve lived in California. If you can’t see the rapid decline, you are truly blind! I’ve lived all over the world, but the majority of it was spent in California There are literally no issues here that have not always been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve lived all over the world, but the majority of it was spent in California There are literally no issues here that have not always been here. Issues? The place is falling apart. It’s literally filthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 10/22/2021 at 11:50 AM, Big Blitz said: If the economy continues this trajectory and it will, DeSantis cruises to victory. I hope you didn't make a bet on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Why do people keep on saying this? People are leaving California. Businesses are leaving California but they’re being replaced by other people and businesses coming in. California has its issues but it’s basically its own country. No other state compares to California has its issues but it’s basically its own country. No other state compares to it they literally could live on their own. with no help from anybody else the people in California pay for the taxes for people in other states. They say it cuz they got nothing else. I've seen homeless in SF and a homeless tent camp in Sacramento. There are problems. And people in Mississippi and Kentucky live in tar paper shacks with empty refrigerators. These are systemic, national problems. Poverty and homelessness are not unique to Cali. But none of that is what this is about on a prez or fed level. I honestly know little about Newsome. Is he a good governor ? pragmatic? charismatic? Edited July 9, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: They say it cuz they got nothing else. I've seen homeless in SF and a homeless tent camp in Sacramento. There are problems. And people in Mississippi and Kentucky live in tar paper shacks with empty refrigerators. These are systemic, national problems. Poverty and homelessness are not unique to Cali. But none of that is what this is about on a prez or fed level. I honestly know little about Newsome. Is he a good governor ? pragmatic? charismatic? There was one thing that I didn’t like about Newsom and that was he was holding parties during Covid whenever we had Covid restrictions I didn’t like the hypocrisy of that He has charisma and he knows how to talk. He would actually talk rings around Donald Trump. How good of a president he would be? I don’t know. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Issues? The place is falling apart. It’s literally filthy. You live there so you would know. And not surprising from what I've been reading/seeing. Heck the talk of reparations alone would be enough to get me to move. 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: There was one thing that I didn’t like about Newsom and that was he was holding parties during Covid whenever we had Covid restrictions I didn’t like the hypocrisy of that He has charisma and he knows how to talk. He would actually talk rings around Donald Trump. How good of a president he would be? I don’t know. If you think that Trump would destroy DeSantis in a debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, Doc said: You live there so you would know. And not surprising from what I've been reading/seeing. Heck the talk of reparations alone would be enough to get me to move. If you think that Trump would destroy DeSantis in a debate... Doc My comments have almost nothing to do with the politics of the place. To be honest I don’t run into it much. My comments are about the state of the physical environment. I have watched it fall into a state of disrepair for decades now. They’re spending a boatload of tax dollars on something, but it isn’t on routine maintenance. To quote Irv…it’s a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I’m legitimately worried Gavin Newsom could win. Not sure why anyone would write him off. 40% of the country that votes will vote “blue no matter who”. And then the country will get even worse and everyone will be like “I don’t get it, what ha-happened”… Republicans can’t seem to get out of their own way and are, currently, determined to elect the only man who can lose to Biden. Then, if they do come to their senses and it’s trending towards a DeSantis nomination, Dems will find a way to tap Newsom. They are not running Biden against DeSantis. I’d be shocked. I think DeSantis wins in that showdown, as I can’t see Newsom winning Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona or Nevada … and DeSantis would put Virginia in play… along with Newsom not exactly being a great fit for white union Dems in PA, MI and WI. The big battle would be for women in swing states. Newsom’s smooth talking and abortion policy geared toward single women vs DeSantis pro-parent agenda, along with Casey on the campaign trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Republicans can’t seem to get out of their own way and are, currently, determined to elect the only man who can lose to Biden. A rare moment of agreement. DeSantis, however, is like the GM with a single-minded focus on beating the Chiefs, only to wind up with a roster that matches up really poorly with the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I know the common wisdom is you run to the extreme in the primaries and then tack back hard to the middle in the general, but there's extreme and then there's too extreme ... Trump has warped the Republican Party to such an extent that it will only come back to its roots after he's vanquished once and for all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’m legitimately worried Gavin Newsom could win. Not sure why anyone would write him off. 40% of the country that votes will vote “blue no matter who”. And then the country will get even worse and everyone will be like “I don’t get it, what ha-happened”… Republicans can’t seem to get out of their own way and are, currently, determined to elect the only man who can lose to Biden. Then, if they do come to their senses and it’s trending towards a DeSantis nomination, Dems will find a way to tap Newsom. They are not running Biden against DeSantis. I’d be shocked. I think DeSantis wins in that showdown, as I can’t see Newsom winning Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona or Nevada … and DeSantis would put Virginia in play… along with Newsom not exactly being a great fit for white union Dems in PA, MI and WI. The big battle would be for women in swing states. Newsom’s smooth talking and abortion policy geared toward single women vs DeSantis pro-parent agenda, along with Casey on the campaign trail. He’s young-ish in comparison to the last two bozos, he’s telegenic, and he will be able to spread misinformation, aka lie, as much as he wants without being called on it by an overwhelming majority of the media. Get ready for the Newsome Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 hours ago, redtail hawk said: I hope you didn't make a bet on that. DeSantis isn’t even making it out of the GOP 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I’m legitimately worried Gavin Newsom could win. Not sure why anyone would write him off. 40% of the country that votes will vote “blue no matter who”. And then the country will get even worse and everyone will be like “I don’t get it, what ha-happened”… Republicans can’t seem to get out of their own way and are, currently, determined to elect the only man who can lose to Biden. Then, if they do come to their senses and it’s trending towards a DeSantis nomination, Dems will find a way to tap Newsom. They are not running Biden against DeSantis. I’d be shocked. I think DeSantis wins in that showdown, as I can’t see Newsom winning Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona or Nevada … and DeSantis would put Virginia in play… along with Newsom not exactly being a great fit for white union Dems in PA, MI and WI. The big battle would be for women in swing states. Newsom’s smooth talking and abortion policy geared toward single women vs DeSantis pro-parent agenda, along with Casey on the campaign trail. The blue, no matter what vote is much higher than 40% The Republicans are going to try to run a criminal for president. They’ve already lost the swing vote before they even get to the general election This country made the mistake of electing Donald Trump once they won’t make it a second time 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Issues? The place is falling apart. It’s literally filthy. And it’s literally been falling apart for years. Yeah there it is still humming along and they do this all the while being excepting to immigrants not treating them like they’re the plague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: DeSantis isn’t even making it out of the GOP The blue, no matter what vote is much higher than 40% The Republicans are going to try to run a criminal for president. They’ve already lost the swing vote before they even get to the general election This country made the mistake of electing Donald Trump once they won’t make it a second time If the R’s nominate Trump, yes .. the vote blue no matter who crowd is higher than 40%. If they nominate DeSantis, his policies are what won Virginia for Youngkin. I don’t buy the personality issue stuff. If Trump wasn’t in the race, we wouldn’t be talking about that. RDS would be the clear cut front runner with all the momentum. Nobody can compete with Trump on personality. Love him or hate him, he’s magnetic. If Trump is out and RDS is the nominee, the Dems will pull the plug on Biden and run Newsom. It will then be very left vs very right and personality vs policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 When you've lost Fiddy... https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/50-cent-says-los-angeles-193321781.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just like 2020 , anyone but Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, ALF said: Just like 2020 , anyone but Trump Anyone but Biden. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Anyone but Biden. If Biden picks a different capable VP he can win again jmo 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, ALF said: If Biden picks a different capable VP he can win again jmo No one wants an 80+ year old President. And if they dump her, they lose the black vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 19 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Issues? The place is falling apart. It’s literally filthy. Yup. Tahoe, Monterey, Carmel and Big Sur are disgusting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts