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29 minutes ago, ALF said:

Get vaccinated , my health insurance premiums are high now without more unnecessary covid hospitalizations to make it increase.

 

 

You sure about this?

 

BREAKING:

 

Founder of mRNA vaccines says "stop the vaccination program - the vaccinated are exacerbating mutations - and the vaccines could lead to more severe cases 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe someone can out science this guy.  Apologies if you're triggered by the fact that Bannon interviewed him.  

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34 minutes ago, ALF said:

Get vaccinated , my health insurance premiums are high now without more unnecessary covid hospitalizations to make it increase.

Too much worrying about the you, not enough worrying about the us.

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He says what they warned about last year is happening:

 

 

"Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials."

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

 

 

 

Appreciate anyone else that can explain this like we're 5.  

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15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

He says what they warned about last year is happening:

 

 

"Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials."

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

 

 

 

Appreciate anyone else that can explain this like we're 5.  

I get some of it and this might not be at the 5 level but of what I do comprehend the potential exists for the active agents in the vaccines to produce a condition that may over-stimulate the immune system in the event of some viral load which produces cytokine storm.  This condition causes inflammation in the respiratory system and other organs which can cause them to function poorly and potentially shut down eventually leading to death.  One treatment called Lenzulimab that's been submitted to the FDA for EUA showed statistically significant positive results in phase 3 clinical trials in suppressing cytokine storm for hospitalized patients.  Its been with the FDA for two months and a decision is expected shortly.  I'll defer to any virus experts here on anything I might have missed. 

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10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Hysterical

 

 

 

Committed to the myth vaccine hesitancy is concentrated in Trump loving white supremist's and not prevalent among communities of color which distrust, for good reasons, government?

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5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Committed to the myth vaccine hesitancy is concentrated in Trump loving white supremist's and not prevalent among communities of color which distrust, for good reasons, government?

 

As of 6 a.m. EDT July 27, a total of 163,312,474 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 49.2 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data.

 

1. Vermont
Number of people fully vaccinated: 420,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.36

 

2. Massachusetts
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,386,221
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.64

 

3. Maine
Number of people fully vaccinated: 850,647
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.28

 

4. Connecticut
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,245,059
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.97

 

5. Rhode Island
Number of people fully vaccinated: 647,300
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 61.1

 

6. Maryland
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,535,077
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.47

 

7. New Hampshire
Number of people fully vaccinated: 789,068
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.03

 

8. New Jersey
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,133,658
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.8

 

9. Washington
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,363,088
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.3

 

10. New Mexico
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,189,697
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74

 

11. New York State
Number of people fully vaccinated: 11,033,818
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.72

 

12. Oregon
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,350,859
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.74

 

13. District of Columbia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 384,596
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.49

 

14. Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,626,792
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.21

 

15. Colorado
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,115,137
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.09

 

16. Minnesota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,018,893
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.53

 

17. Hawaii
Number of people fully vaccinated: 754,967
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.32

 

18. California
Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,720,246
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.44

 

19. Delaware
Number of people fully vaccinated: 510,337
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.41

 

20. Pennsylvania
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,645,348
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.91

 

21. Wisconsin
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,002,057
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.56

 

22. Iowa
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,559,883
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.44

 

23. Nebraska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 953,006
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.27

 

24. Michigan
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,858,654
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.65

 

25. Florida
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,422,399
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.53

 

26. Illinois
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,107,622
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.2

 

27. South Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 413,425
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.73

 

28. Ohio
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,404,967
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.24

 

29. Alaska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 331,567
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.32

 

30. Kentucky
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,022,775
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.28

 

31. Arizona
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,275,902
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.01

 

32. Kansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,309,691
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.96

 

33. Utah
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,423,509
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.4

 

34. Montana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 471,678
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.13

 

35. Nevada
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,356,716
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.05

 

36. Indiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,961,774
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.99

 

37. North Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,563,251
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.51

 

38. Texas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,609,049
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49

 

39. Missouri
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,512,400
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.94

 

40. South Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,078,799
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.38

 

41. Oklahoma
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,582,479
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.99

 

42. North Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 304,231
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.92

 

43. West Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 698,205
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.96

 

44. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,654,498
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.87

 

45. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,039,150
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.04

 

46. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 664,880
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.21

 

47. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,703,117
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.64

 

48. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 210,449
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.36

 

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,087,284
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.03

 

50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,017,257
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.18

 

51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,672,423
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.11

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50 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Too much worrying about the you, not enough worrying about the us.

 

How is telling everyone to get vaccinated not enough worrying about everyone ?

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49 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

As of 6 a.m. EDT July 27, a total of 163,312,474 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 49.2 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data.

 

1. Vermont
Number of people fully vaccinated: 420,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.36

 

2. Massachusetts
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,386,221
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.64

 

3. Maine
Number of people fully vaccinated: 850,647
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.28

 

4. Connecticut
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,245,059
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.97

 

5. Rhode Island
Number of people fully vaccinated: 647,300
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 61.1

 

6. Maryland
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,535,077
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.47

 

7. New Hampshire
Number of people fully vaccinated: 789,068
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.03

 

8. New Jersey
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,133,658
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.8

 

9. Washington
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,363,088
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.3

 

10. New Mexico
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,189,697
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74

 

11. New York State
Number of people fully vaccinated: 11,033,818
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.72

 

12. Oregon
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,350,859
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.74

 

13. District of Columbia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 384,596
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.49

 

14. Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,626,792
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.21

 

15. Colorado
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,115,137
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.09

 

16. Minnesota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,018,893
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.53

 

17. Hawaii
Number of people fully vaccinated: 754,967
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.32

 

18. California
Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,720,246
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.44

 

19. Delaware
Number of people fully vaccinated: 510,337
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.41

 

20. Pennsylvania
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,645,348
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.91

 

21. Wisconsin
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,002,057
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.56

 

22. Iowa
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,559,883
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.44

 

23. Nebraska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 953,006
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.27

 

24. Michigan
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,858,654
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.65

 

25. Florida
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,422,399
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.53

 

26. Illinois
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,107,622
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.2

 

27. South Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 413,425
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.73

 

28. Ohio
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,404,967
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.24

 

29. Alaska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 331,567
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.32

 

30. Kentucky
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,022,775
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.28

 

31. Arizona
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,275,902
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.01

 

32. Kansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,309,691
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.96

 

33. Utah
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,423,509
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.4

 

34. Montana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 471,678
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.13

 

35. Nevada
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,356,716
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.05

 

36. Indiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,961,774
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.99

 

37. North Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,563,251
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.51

 

38. Texas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,609,049
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49

 

39. Missouri
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,512,400
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.94

 

40. South Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,078,799
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.38

 

41. Oklahoma
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,582,479
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.99

 

42. North Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 304,231
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.92

 

43. West Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 698,205
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.96

 

44. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,654,498
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.87

 

45. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,039,150
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.04

 

46. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 664,880
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.21

 

47. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,703,117
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.64

 

48. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 210,449
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.36

 

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,087,284
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.03

 

50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,017,257
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.18

 

51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,672,423
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.11

 

 

Hi there Bill.  Sorry.  But since you made this a nationwide pandemic way way way back in March of 2020 when it wasn't.....individual states don't matter.  This is the United States.  And I thought it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated up until yesterday but whatever.   

 

I know you don't want Biden to take responsibility but......he didn't get to his 70% by July 4.  Britain did.  The country of Brexit.  Trumpers you might say.  So epic fail.   Perhaps you and your clown show leaders you keep ignoring should rethink the messaging, metrics, and goals. 

 

 

 

 

As to the stupidity of that list:

 

Why isn't Georgia (Number 45) and Neveda (35) in blue?

 

State 21 is at 51%.  Wisconsin.  

 

State 35 is at 44%  Nevada 

 

So the drop off (LOL) between states 21 and 35 is a whopping whole 7%.  

 

States 51 to 41 (not including the blue state of Georgia for some reason again not shown as blue)..... there are as many people in those states total as there are in Texas. 

 

Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States.   Extremely rural.  Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work.  

 

 

But anyway back to states 21 thru 35.......please Bill......explain to us the significance and science of that drop off between states 21 and 35 (that's 15 states) and why that 7% difference between them is significant?  

 

 

I don't really need you to because you can't.  What should they all be at and why?  And then what happens when they reach those numbers?  Cite please.  

 

 

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Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States.   Extremely rural.  Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work.  

 

Come on, man.

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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Hi there Bill.  Sorry.  But since you made this a nationwide pandemic way way way back in March of 2020 when it wasn't.....individual states don't matter.  This is the United States.  And I thought it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated up until yesterday but whatever.   

 

I know you don't want Biden to take responsibility but......he didn't get to his 70% by July 4.  Britain did.  The country of Brexit.  Trumpers you might say.  So epic fail.   Perhaps you and your clown show leaders you keep ignoring should rethink the messaging, metrics, and goals. 

 

 

 

 

As to the stupidity of that list:

 

Why isn't Georgia (Number 45) and Neveda (35) in blue?

 

State 21 is at 51%.  Wisconsin.  

 

State 35 is at 44%  Nevada 

 

So the drop off (LOL) between states 21 and 35 is a whopping whole 7%.  

 

States 51 to 41 (not including the blue state of Georgia for some reason again not shown as blue)..... there are as many people in those states total as there are in Texas. 

 

Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States.   Extremely rural.  Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work.  

 

 

But anyway back to states 21 thru 35.......please Bill......explain to us the significance and science of that drop off between states 21 and 35 (that's 15 states) and why that 7% difference between them is significant?  

 

 

I don't really need you to because you can't.  What should they all be at and why?  And then what happens when they reach those numbers?  Cite please.  

 

 


Red States are to blame for rising infections and restrictions. 
 

Get vaccinated.

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On 7/27/2021 at 9:10 AM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

I did because I'm 42, will take the long term gamble, and knew where this was headed anyway.  Trump also told me to get it so I listened.   

 

 

As for teens, kids under 12.......the people imposing it on them are a disgrace.  And even worse still making them mask up.  

 

Saw a family out yesterday at the mall here.  Literally no one in masks (ok maybe 5% of the guests) and I see these parents and their 2 kids probably around 4 and 6 years old.  F....ing embarrassing and I feel so bad for their kids.  Not sure I blame the parents if they think the masks protect them (they've been fed such fake news) but I will if they simply are going to use their kids to virtue signal.    

 

Or maybe one of the kids, or one of the parents, or a grandfather who lives with them just got a transplant and is on immune suppressive drugs.

But one thing about a know it all: they always know it all.

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The NEA runs the country.  

 

Masks on for summer. 

 

Masks back on for school.  

 

 

We could have been in the buildings in masks all of 2020 per their logic.  

 

Eventually they'll figure that out and if you're in a deep blue dumpster fire do not be surprised when you start seeing at least calls to be virtual.  

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43 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You seemed hyper fixated on your insurance costs.  Together Everyone Achieves More! 
 

 

 

I could give a damn about my insurance costs , I care about unvaccinated people suffering in the hospital and dying. What are you fixated on?

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43 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Come on, man.

 

 

Breakthrough COVID infections after vaccination can lead to long-haul symptoms, Israeli study shows

 

 

Nearly 3% of medical workers in a new Israeli study contracted COVID-19 even though they were vaccinated, and 19% of them still had symptoms six weeks later.

 

Although the vaccines were never expected to be perfect, the findings raise questions about their protection and suggest that even vaccinated people could experience long-term symptoms such as such as fatigue, brain fog and shortness of breath.

 

Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, said he finds it concerning – though not conclusive – that people had lingering symptoms weeks after getting sick.

 

"There really may be a risk here, but we don't know how big a risk and how much of a problem it is," he said.

 

Most of the people in the study who got sick had mild symptoms, and none were hospitalized.

 

But Jha said he is troubled by the fact that young, healthy people would get so-called breakthrough infections within a few months of vaccination. Scientists expected protection to wane over time, and they expected the vaccines to be less effective among older people and those with pre-existing health conditions. But that's not who got sick in this study.....

 

Coronavirus vaccines were never designed to perfectly protect people against all infections, noted Dr. Eric Topol, a cardiologist who founded and directs the Scripps Research Translational Institute in California. 

 

He said current vaccines are great at preventing serious infection deep in the lungs, but not at blocking infection in the upper airways. What's needed, he said, is a nasal-spray vaccine that would stop the coronavirus from taking hold at all....

 

"Don't take the delta stress test. Keep a mask on," he said. "With the vaccine, you can be confident, but you can't be 100% confident."

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/28/breakthrough-covid-19-infections-can-lead-long-term-symptoms-study/5399083001/

 

 

Take from this what you will. 

 

One week ago I was told this:

 

 

 

None of it matters when you move the goal posts 500000000000 times and set no metrics.  

 

People are done.  Kids are at risk of having their entire high school lives ruined with what we're doing.   

 

 

What is the end game?  There clearly isn't one.  

 

That's THE PROBLEM.  We aren't governed by the CDC and "science!" that's been politicized.

 

None of what we're doing based on THEIR METRICS (that change monthly) should tell you this is over when _____

 

If you can't do that, you're lying and don't deserve our compliance. 

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