Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: @Tiberiuscan you not see I stated slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War? seriously - you can’t understand this was my position ? Race based slavery. Racism underlined slavery just as much as it did Jim Crow The Confederates admitted their revolution was a race based revolution. Check out the Cornerstone Speech by Alexander Stephens as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Race based slavery. Racism underlined slavery just as much as it did Jim Crow The Confederates admitted their revolution was a race based revolution. Check out the Cornerstone Speech by Alexander Stephens as an example. So we agree slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War….that’s great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Race based slavery. Racism underlined slavery just as much as it did Jim Crow The Confederates admitted their revolution was a race based revolution. Check out the Cornerstone Speech by Alexander Stephens as an example. Still waiting for you to show someone who states that slavery was not proximate cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: She talked about teaching about slavery and went from there. CRT attacks are, in part, being used to stop the truth from being taught No they are not. Not even close But not surprised you don't get it. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: We were talking about causes of civil war Why? What does that have to do with a discussion on CRT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Sure! Literally hundreds of thousands of people fought and died so they could continue being racists. Yeah….that sounds right. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Sure! Literally hundreds of thousands of people fought and died so they could continue being racists. Yeah….that sounds right. 🙄 It’s as if slavery never existed until the use of Africans as slaves here in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Yup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Yup Please explain what the hell this post has to do with CRT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Chef Jim said: Please explain what the hell this post has to do with CRT??? Everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Everything Great non-answer as usual. Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Funny this topic keeps popping up and people with no idea what this is defend it. CRT in a nutshell is a nonsense Marxist theory construct extrapolated from critical theory which a bunch of grifters and fake academics and junk sociological pseudo science have espoused to become wealthy while the left attempts to leverage its tenets to call every non progressive racist and push its extremist agenda. Meanwhile the right fear mongers that it’s going to make little white kids loathe themselves just like every other progressive already does. Like every other political apparatus it’s a mind control device. The thing about CRT that should help everyone see through the sham is it’s “scholars” 😂 can only respond to hard data statistically validating the influence of cultural and family values by responding.. well that because math is racist 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Funny this topic keeps popping up and people with no idea what this is defend it. CRT in a nutshell is a nonsense Marxist theory construct extrapolated from critical theory which a bunch of grifters and fake academics and junk sociological pseudo science have espoused to become wealthy while the left attempts to leverage its tenets to call every non progressive racist and push its extremist agenda. Meanwhile the right fear mongers that it’s going to make little white kids loathe themselves just like every other progressive already does. Like every other political apparatus it’s a mind control device. The thing about CRT that should help everyone see through the sham is it’s “scholars” 😂 can only respond to hard data statistically validating the influence of cultural and family values by responding.. well that because math is racist 🙄 Yawn - CRT is nothing more than a 40+ year old theory that the cult turned into its latest fabricated boogeyman with the intent of grooming and conditioning our kids by whitewashing history. The insecure freaks are doing the same with Don’t say GAY GAY GAY - and this, too - will back fire in their faces. Just you wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Yawn - CRT is nothing more than a 40+ year old theory that the cult turned into its latest fabricated boogeyman with the intent of grooming and conditioning our kids by whitewashing history. The insecure freaks are doing the same with Don’t say GAY GAY GAY - and this, too - will back fire in their faces. Just you wait Any chance you’ll sit there quietly while ‘we wait’? Asking for a whole bunch of friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Yawn - CRT is nothing more than a 40+ year old theory that the cult turned into its latest fabricated boogeyman with the intent of grooming and conditioning our kids by whitewashing history. The insecure freaks are doing the same with Don’t say GAY GAY GAY - and this, too - will back fire in their faces. Just you wait until November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: until November You might win the battle but I promise you - you won’t win the war. ETTD So keep up the hate. It’s so unifying and Putin loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Still waiting for you to show someone who states that slavery was not proximate cause? So you have never heard of the Lost Cause myth? Pretty standard stuff https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/lost-cause-myth-of-the-confederacy-9251/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you have never heard of the Lost Cause myth? Pretty standard stuff https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/lost-cause-myth-of-the-confederacy-9251/ Once again you point to someone saying someone else believes it. The most recent document they reference is from the 1910s. Thank you for proving the point that you are arguing against the people of the 1800s, not the people of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Once again you point to someone saying someone else believes it. The most recent document they reference is from the 1910s. Thank you for proving the point that you are arguing against the people of the 1800s, not the people of today. We have had arguments on this board about that with many on your side saying slavery was not cause of war. Happy to see that is a point losing steam. But it is still alive and well in places: https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Was-Cause-Between-States/dp/0985363274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 And this guy with his war of northern aggression point of view also makes slavery a secondary issue https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106594.The_Real_Lincoln 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: . You would include that for those who supported Jim Crow, right? That's all they saw was race. Aside from when they also wanted gender restrictions, also Blaming the victims! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We have had arguments on this board about that with many on your side saying slavery was not cause of war. Happy to see that is a point losing steam. But it is still alive and well in places: https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Was-Cause-Between-States/dp/0985363274 You do understand there’s a difference between slavery and racism….right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You do understand there’s a difference between slavery and racism….right? Our slavery was a race based system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Our slavery was a race based system No it was an economics based system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: We have had arguments on this board about that with many on your side saying slavery was not cause of war. Happy to see that is a point losing steam. But it is still alive and well in places: https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Was-Cause-Between-States/dp/0985363274 No one has argued that but keep lying. 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: 🎯 I am assuming she is lives in Florida based on her other posts and she is 100% wrong that parents are welcome in any classroom at any time. Parents can make appointments to see teachers and many teachers will make accommodations for parents but they cant just pop in whenever they want. She should try that at her kids school and see how far she gets before she is escorted out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: No one has argued that but keep lying. Oh, so deny, lie and they call someone else what you are. Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, so deny, lie and they call someone else what you are. Yup Once again show me- everyone has argued that there are many causes but we all agree the proximate cause is slavery. Your issue is that you aren't smart enough to understand that it is complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Once again show me- everyone has argued that there are many causes but we all agree the proximate cause is slavery. Your issue is that you aren't smart enough to understand that it is complex. 💋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BillStime said: You might win the battle but I promise you - you won’t win the war. ETTD So keep up the hate. It’s so unifying and Putin loves it. No hate from me - nice try though. Keep on trying to divide. I'm OK with winning the battle in November - you keep on fighting the good fight to win the culture war as social justice warrior-in-chief Edited April 20, 2022 by BuffaninSarasota addl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: No hate from me - nice though. Keep on trying to divide. I'm OK with winning the battle in November - you keep on fighting the good fight to win the culture war as social justice warrior-in-chief Every accusation is a confession. How many laws has the cult passed (CRT/Anti LGTBQ, etc) as they incite more hate and divide with these pathetic laws? When that’s all the policy you insecure freaks pass? You will lose. Edited April 20, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Every accusation is a confession. How many laws have the Nazis passed (CRT/Anti LGTBQ, etc) as they incite more hate and divide with these pathetic laws? When that’s all the policy you insecure freaks pass? You will lose. "Every accusation is a confession." ..... your current default response to everything. Grow up, get some fresh air, and stay away from the insults/cute memes/Tweets - they make you look even more stupid than you sound See you in November !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: "Every accusation is a confession." ..... your current default response to everything. Grow up, get some fresh air, and stay away from the insults/cute memes/Tweets - they make you look even more stupid than you sound See you in November !! That default response is fitting. YOU are not being honest by projecting that the left is playing the culture war card when it is YOUR cult passing laws and trying to transform America. Hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: That default response is fitting. YOU are not being honest by projecting that the left is playing the culture war card when it is YOUR cult passing laws and trying to transform America. Hypocrite you cannot help yourself..... it's you and the militant left trying to transform America into your dystopian version of reality. It's your "team" that started this nonsense 18 months ago, not my side. I'm not projecting anything, the wokeistan version of the left is already doing this. If you can't acknowledge this, you're the hypocritical liar. Have fun with your name-calling, cute memes, and Twitforbrain opinions. See you in November ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: you cannot help yourself..... it's you and the militant left trying to transform America into your dystopian version of reality. It's your "team" that started this nonsense 18 months ago, not my side. I'm not projecting anything, the wokeistan version of the left is already doing this. If you can't acknowledge this, you're the hypocritical liar. Have fun with your name-calling, cute memes, and Twitforbrain opinions. See you in November ! Notice there were no examples of laws passed by “the militant left trying to transform America” ??? Again - you’re the ones passing laws to control education, LGTBQ, and abortion laws. Go control more people - you got this! Keep projecting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Fire him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: you cannot help yourself..... it's you and the militant left trying to transform America into your dystopian version of reality. It's your "team" that started this nonsense 18 months ago, not my side. I'm not projecting anything, the wokeistan version of the left is already doing this. If you can't acknowledge this, you're the hypocritical liar. Have fun with your name-calling, cute memes, and Twitforbrain opinions. See you in November ! How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How's that? Tibs, it is an empty talking point for the cult because whenever asked to validate - they bail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How's that? how much time do you have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 REMINDER: The Five Lies of CRT Mike Gonzalez 1) CRT is not taught in schools 2) CRT is just a way to give previously marginalized people the attention they have lacked 3) CRT is not Marxist 4) Those opposed to CRT just don’t want history taught 5) The Use of CRT is a cynical ploy by Republicans These then are the lies told by the folks propagating CRT, and their useful idiots. Don’t fall for them. Multiple examples and analysis is included under each of the lies listed.......just open the link. https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/the-five-lies-crt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: how much time do you have ? I'm hoping for another 35 years, but maybe I'll live longer. That clock just keeps ticking, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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