Chef Jim Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Per which far right rag? Im still waiting for you or @B-Man to share how the Tulsa Massacre would be taught with and without CRT. Lets hear it! Your tiny brain has such a hard time understanding our points of view. Either that or your political blinders have you jumping to false assumptions of our points of view. You twist all we say to fit your narrative. 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Whatever your take on it, it is wildly dishonest to say that (actual) critical race theory is just "talking about race." CRT is the left-most paradigm of academic legal/historical studies, which argues that "racism is everyday" and facially neutral systems are set up to oppress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Your tiny brain has such a hard time understanding our points of view. Either that or your political blinders have you jumping to false assumptions of our points of view. You twist all we say to fit your narrative. 🙄 Another white flag from Sedition Jim. You *know* so much about CRT and how it’s taught - how it MAKES kids feel shame - but you can’t share how. Sad Jim - take your pea brain back to your safe place - Ann will comfort your FEELINGs. Edited June 13, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: Another white flag from Sedition Jim. Again fellow members, note how the childishness of Billztime still equates posting to "winning and losing" FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT TO PROPAGANDIZE: Left-wing educators hold rallies to protest bans on teaching critical race theory in schools. https://www.thecollegefix.com/left-wing-educators-hold-rallies-to-protest-bans-on-teaching-critical-race-theory-in-schools/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Again fellow members, note how the childishness of Billztime still equates posting to "winning and losing" FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT TO PROPAGANDIZE: Left-wing educators hold rallies to protest bans on teaching critical race theory in schools. https://www.thecollegefix.com/left-wing-educators-hold-rallies-to-protest-bans-on-teaching-critical-race-theory-in-schools/ Fighting for the right to propagandize? Have you seen your self? You’re like Trump - you must win the day. So speaking of propaganda - are you going to share how the Tulsa Massacre would be taught with CRT and without? Or are you going to be like Jim and continue to lash out… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: Critical Race Theory Opponents Win Board Elections at Nation’s Top High School. https://freebeacon.com/campus/critical-race-theory-opponents-win-board-elections-at-nations-top-high-school/ Still nothing? Free Beacon or REDSTATE can’t tell you how you’re supposed to think… I mean highlight how the Tulsa Massacre is taught w and wo CRT? It’s really a simple question and really sad that you or your handlers didn’t highlight. Edited June 13, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I have no problem if it's taught the way the theory is laid out. But it has morphed into a potentially a very divisive concept that points the finger at current white people as the problem. That we are all racists or white supremacists. Academia is run by mostly liberals and the teachers that have come out of our university system the past 10 years or so seem to have been taught that white Americans are the source of all the countries problems. CRT has become Ethnic Studies which doesn't cover the history of race relations in this country as much as who is currently responsible for the current state of the lives of POC. It lays no responsibility on them. Sure the past influences things today but over time that influence diminishes and Academia appears to avoid that conversation completely. It CAN? No it does!! Have you not been paying attention? The predominant color of those resenting white people are......white people Oh I’m paying attention Chef Jack! Maybe it’s YOU who isn’t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Governor said: Which parts are untrue? This isn’t anywhere near as crazy as schools teaching that the 3/5 compromise was good for blacks, or climate denialism, or creationism. And math. Don’t forget math, which comes right after climate denialismishness. We need a global math tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, BillStime said: Free Beacon or REDSTATE can’t tell you how you’re supposed to think… No one falls for your "One Note" response any more little man. I ask the board, does this look familiar ? Is this where some of the folks here get their "insight" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: No one falls for your "One Note" response any more little man. I ask the board, does this look familiar ? Is this where some of the folks here get their "insight" ? Do you realize how pathetic you sound? You can’t even distinguish how the Tulsa Massacre would be taught w CRT applied or not. Do you realize EVERYONE can see you dodging this question? Edited June 13, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you realize how pathetic you sound? You can’t even distinguish how the Tulsa Massacre would be taught w CRT applied or not. Do you realize EVERYONE can you dodging this question? Lies. I don’t see that at all. I see you unraveling with odd commentary and outlandish proclamations of victory over imagined anonymous foes. I actually think @B-Man should be a history teacher because he keeps taking you to school! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Lies. I don’t see that at all. I see you unraveling with odd commentary and outlandish proclamations of victory over imagined anonymous foes. I actually think @B-Man should be a history teacher because he keeps taking you to school! Awe how cute - his buddy from their safe place is attempting to bail the coward out. @Chef Jim and @B-Man - proclaimed experts of CRT - can’t even address a simple question that goes to heart of their argument. They cannot differentiate how our history is taught using CRT and not. Its really a simple question… But I’m sure Bonnie appreciates you fighting his battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 The parents know...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: So speaking of propaganda - are you going to share how the Tulsa Massacre would be taught with CRT and without? Are you from Tulsa? Why all the posts about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Are you from Tulsa? Why all the posts about it? It’s a perfect example for you and your friends to illustrate how CRT would apply to this historical event. The simple fact that @Chef Jimand @B-Mancant do it illustrates they are frauds and pawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: It’s a perfect example for you and your friends to illustrate how CRT would apply to this historical event. The simple fact that @Chef Jimand @B-Mancant do it illustrates they are frauds and pawns. It’s literally impossible for anyone to be more of a pawn than you. But since you’re an expert at it, I’ll take your opinion of others under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s literally impossible for anyone to be more of a pawn than you. But since you’re an expert at it, I’ll take your opinion of others under consideration. Awe - thanks bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Awe how cute - his buddy from their safe place is attempting to bail the coward out. @Chef Jim and @B-Man - proclaimed experts of CRT - can’t even address a simple question that goes to heart of their argument. They cannot differentiate how our history is taught using CRT and not. Its really a simple question… But I’m sure Bonnie appreciates you fighting his battles. I acknowledge you feel this way. Godspeed Billsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: Awe - thanks bro. Is that a gender specific pronoun? A bit unwoke of you Comrade Q Baby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Is that a gender specific pronoun? A bit unwoke of you Comrade Q Baby Did Q Baby hurt your fragile feelings too, precious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: Did Q Baby hurt your fragile feelings too, precious? And we’re back to the precious feelings thing. You seem to think that that comment makes some sort of an impact on people. They might have worked in junior high but not in the adult world....bro. Edited June 13, 2021 by SoCal Deek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And we’re back to the precious feelings thing. You seem to think that that comment makes some sort of an impact on people. They might have worked in junior high but not in the adult world....bro. It's his standard fall-back when he's got nothing. Meanwhile..............Putting a marxist spin on all U.S. history via Critical Race Theory is wrong, and people are waking up to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And we’re back to the precious feelings thing. You seem to think that that comment makes some sort of an impact on people. They might have worked in junior high but not in the adult world....bro. Wait - you calling me Q Baby is mature? You really aren’t bright… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Wait - you calling me Q Baby is mature? You really aren’t bright… But I like calling you Q Baby. Not sure why you think that’s immature...it’s a decent enough synonym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: But I like calling you Q Baby. Not sure why you think that’s immature...it’s a decent enough synonym. Grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Hahahahahahahaha...... "Tousle my hair Mr. Hanks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Hahahahahahahaha...... "Tousle my hair Mr. Hanks" You still not going to provide a practical application of CRT on the Tulsa Massacre? If that example is too sensitive you can try other examples. Would be great for you to share a real life example of how awful CRT is. We would all appreciate. Oh wait - you “got nothing” ??? Edited June 13, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Grow up Already there...bro. But I’ll try and wait if you want to catch up. Or you can keep on peddling your junior high style internet garbage. The choice is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: You till not going to provide a practical application of CRT on the Tulsa Massacre? If that example is too sensitive you can try other examples. Would be great for you to share a real life example of how awful CRT is. We would all appreciate. Oh wait - you “got nothing” ??? There will never be any excuse for the Tulsa Massacre , I'm very ashamed of the white people of Tulsa . They need to make amends for that terrible crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Already there...bro. But I’ll try and wait if you want to catch up. Or you can keep on peddling your junior high style internet garbage. The choice is yours. Nah - we have plenty of examples here of you being a petulant child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 "Authoritarian Mullet" is my new favorite political term. (Culture war in the front, the destruction of democracy in the back.) Little Fires Everywhere Trump may be out of office, but the GOP's campaign to limit voting rights, free speech, and reproductive rights is still in full-swing. On this week’s On the Media, where do you focus your attention when there are little fires everywhere? Plus, a look at a chilling new look for America: the "authoritarian mullet" — culture war in the front, the destruction of democracy in the back. And, how critical race theory became a right-wing bogeyman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Quick Reminder what's going on across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 17 hours ago, B-Man said: It's his standard fall-back when he's got nothing. Meanwhile..............Putting a marxist spin on all U.S. history via Critical Race Theory is wrong, and people are waking up to that. How is Critical race theory marxist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 17 hours ago, BillStime said: "Authoritarian Mullet" is my new favorite political term. (Culture war in the front, the destruction of democracy in the back.) Little Fires Everywhere Trump may be out of office, but the GOP's campaign to limit voting rights, free speech, and reproductive rights is still in full-swing. On this week’s On the Media, where do you focus your attention when there are little fires everywhere? Plus, a look at a chilling new look for America: the "authoritarian mullet" — culture war in the front, the destruction of democracy in the back. And, how critical race theory became a right-wing bogeyman. That’s exactly it. They’re going with what worked in past midterm elections, but there really isn’t any reason to believe that will continue to work when everyone is hyper-focused on politics. it hasn’t worked since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: How is Critical race theory marxist? I am glad that you asked. Critical race theory has stirred controversy in the United States since the 1980s for deviating from the ideal of color blindness and promoting the use of narrative in legal studies Critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning. https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory What critical race theory is really about By Christopher F. Rufo Critical race theory is fast becoming America’s new institutional orthodoxy. Yet most Americans have never heard of it — and of those who have, many don’t understand it. This must change. We need to know what it is so we can know how to fight it. To explain critical race theory, it helps to begin with a brief history of Marxism. Originally, the Marxist left built its political program on the theory of class conflict. Karl Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: The workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class and usher in a new socialist society. {snip} Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism. Relegated for many years to universities and obscure academic journals, it has increasingly become the default ideology in our public institutions over the past decade. It has been injected into government agencies, public school systems, teacher training programs and corporate human resources departments in the form of diversity training programs, human resources modules, public policy frameworks and school curricula. Its supporters deploy a series of euphemisms to describe critical race theory, including “equity,” “social justice,” “diversity and inclusion” and “culturally responsive teaching.” Critical race theorists, masters of language construction, realize that “neo-Marxism” would be a hard sell. Equity, on the other hand, sounds nonthreatening and is easily confused with the American principle of equality. But the distinction is vast and important. Indeed, critical race theorists explicitly reject equality — the principle proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, defended in the Civil War and codified into law with the 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To them, equality represents “mere nondiscrimination” and provides “camouflage” for white supremacy, patriarchy and oppression. In contrast to equality, equity as defined and promoted by critical race theorists is little more than reformulated Marxism. In the name of equity, UCLA law professor and critical race theorist Cheryl Harris has proposed suspending private property rights, seizing land and wealth and redistributing them along racial lines. Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government and would have the power to nullify, veto or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently “antiracist.” One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, “in order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anticapitalist.” In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end. https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/what-critical-race-theory-is-really-about/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: LOL Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government and would have the power to nullify, veto or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently “antiracist.” One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, “in order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anticapitalist.” In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end. https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/what-critical-race-theory-is-really-about/ LOL, this is just wacko. A department for controlling speech? What is the status of that effort? Is it moving through Congress? These authors just strung together from disparate sources a serious of nutty comments and said that is what the whole thing is? Can you show the school curriculum that is teaching this or anything like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: How is Critical race theory marxist? It's pushed by the dems and other leftists, ergo, marxist. The only marxism I'm for is for Chico, Groucho and Harpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can you show the school curriculum that is teaching this or anything like it? No. I will not "show" you.....................again. This thread, and the racist thread is filled with examples of the CRT being taught in schools across the country, as well as all the parents concerned about their kids being filled with propaganda instead of knowledge. You really need to open your self to other views Tibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Critical Race Theory opponents have never given a single indication that their goal is to whitewash racially motivated crimes. Their goal is to ensure that their children don’t grow up in a world that tells them they’re irredeemable unless they hate themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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