T&C Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/politics/2023/08/29/gop-silences--tennessee-three--democrat-justin-jones-on-house-floor-for-day-on--out-of-order--rule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Chris farley said: IE, 100% align with the Roman church or be called out as backward/false profit. Been that way for centuries. Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” Ok. Protestant would cover most Christian denominations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Ok. Protestant would cover most Christian denominations? Correct. Anything not Catholic can be considered Protestant, dating back to Martin Luther‘s reforms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” Or "we interpret literally" and then don't see the conflict between thou shalt not kill and the death penalty or an unjust war...or trump and christianity, for that matter. and then there is that passage about "You are Peter. And on this rock, I will build my church". Amazingly, no mention of Luther or Calvin or Henry the 8th. Edited August 29, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Correct. Anything not Catholic can be considered Protestant, dating back to Martin Luther‘s reforms. Well, not really? Other denominations (eastern Orthodox primarily but there are others) exist separately from Catholicism but predate the reformation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, yall said: Well, not really? Other denominations (eastern Orthodox primarily but there are others) exist separately from Catholicism but predate the reformation. Ok, yeah that’s a good point. Orthodox not withstanding, then. That also includes “national” Catholic Churches which are mostly not in accordance with Rome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Or "we interpret literally" and then don't see the conflict between thou shalt not kill and the death penalty or an unjust war...or trump and christianity, for that matter. and then there is that passage about "You are Peter. And on this rock, I will build my church". Amazingly, no mention of Luther or Calvin or Henry the 8th. There’s also Romans 7 which states that Jesus fulfilled the word and the Holy Spirit becomes the law, not the “letter.” St. Irenaeus writes about this in his piece “On the Apostolic Teaching” which is a crucial piece of early Catholic history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: There’s also Romans 7 which states that Jesus fulfilled the word and the Holy Spirit becomes the law, not the “letter.” St. Irenaeus writes about this in his piece “On the Apostolic Teaching” which is a crucial piece of early Catholic history. not aware. will need to check them out. One thing I found in my career tho: People who constantly spout scripture (almost always fundamentalists) are some of the least Christian people in actions. And this "Christian White Nationalism" is just unimaginable to me. Yet there it is.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: not aware. will need to check them out. One thing I found in my career tho: People who constantly spout scripture (almost always fundamentalists) are some of the least Christian people in actions. And this "Christian White Nationalism" is just unimaginable to me. Yet there it is.... The early Church doctors and writers are fascinating. One of the best electives I ever took in college was a “Modern Christianity” course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: And this "Christian White Nationalism" is just unimaginable to me. Yet there it is.... Exactly. We even have Putin - Putin! - posing as some kind of defender of the (Russian Orthodox) faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Or "we interpret literally" and then don't see the conflict between thou shalt not kill and the death penalty or an unjust war...or trump and christianity, for that matter. and then there is that passage about "You are Peter. And on this rock, I will build my church". Amazingly, no mention of Luther or Calvin or Henry the 8th. There are different interpretations when translated. They, and other scriptural content, argue against any establishment of how Catholics view the Pope. Clearly the history of "the Pope" is not one that indicates historical piety or credibility. The Reformation was the result of people revolting to capitalizing the papal position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sherpa said: There are different interpretations when translated. That's my point. There is no such thing as literal interpretation. People color the different translations from Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew to suit their needs. Re the reformation, i don't blame Luther for starting a new church in the face of buying indulgences. However, "reformation" has veered far off from His original plan. See "white Christian Nationalists" and Jerry Falwell Jr.. Yup, there were some bad popes. They're men after all (x when acting ex cathedra), but I think it's better to have scholars interpret the bible than some guy who decided he was "reverend". Edited August 29, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Prayers for him and his family. BREAKING: House Majority Leader Steve Scalise Diagnosed With Multiple Myeloma By Jennifer Van Laar https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2023/08/29/breaking-house-majority-leader-steve-scalise-diagnosed-with-multiple-myeloma-n2163178 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 8 hours ago, B-Man said: Prayers for him and his family. BREAKING: House Majority Leader Steve Scalise Diagnosed With Multiple Myeloma By Jennifer Van Laar https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2023/08/29/breaking-house-majority-leader-steve-scalise-diagnosed-with-multiple-myeloma-n2163178 Never want to see this. Hope he gets good treatment and beats it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Hmmmmm 🤔 Florida Gas Stations Receive Contaminated Fuel Right Before Hurricane Idalia Makes Landfall by Anthony Scott The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (FDACS) has reported fuel contamination could impact residents who are evacuating from Florida’s coast. FDACS reported fuel contamination has occurred at dozens of gas stations that were serviced by the Port of Tampa. In a press release, FDACS revealed, “Any fuel purchased after 10 a.m. on Saturday, August 26, at stations supplied by Citgo from the Port of Tampa has a strong likelihood of being contaminated with diesel fuel.” https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/florida-gas-stations-receive-contaminated-fuel-right-before/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Buffalo Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, B-Man said: This sounds awful, only Fallon is funny of them and he is not competing with Leno or Carson. This could be used as torture against American enemies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, B-Man said: Left wing bubble…swipe…Left…😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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