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JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Has anyone credible proved that it's a "credible" medicine, or are conservatives still dying on this hill? https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details Yes. For a long time. Doesn’t appear to be “credible” against covid. The point being made is that the Don Lemon’s of the world referred to it as horse medicine. You can’t possibly be on board with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Countering republican attacks is the main thing. The actual crime? Whatever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: he actual crime? Whatever. Meanwhile, keep loosening those gun laws bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details Yes. For a long time. Doesn’t appear to be “credible” against covid. The point being made is that the Don Lemon’s of the world referred to it as horse medicine. You can’t possibly be on board with that. Before Covid, ivermectin was a rarely prescribed drug in western humans. GI nematodes are rarely encountered here There are much easier anti parasitics to prescribe and it is most commonly used in veterinary medicine Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Before Covid, ivermectin was a rarely prescribed drug in western humans. GI nematodes are rarely encountered here There are much easier anti parasitics to prescribe and it is most commonly used in veterinary medicine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988. It proved ideal in many ways, being highly effective and broad-spectrum, safe, well tolerated and could be easily administered (a single, annual oral dose). What was the reasoning for your preferred media outlets to refer to it as horse medicine as opposed to trying to report it straightforward? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Before Covid, ivermectin was a rarely prescribed drug in western humans. GI nematodes are rarely encountered here There are much easier anti parasitics to prescribe and it is most commonly used in veterinary medicine https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711 This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) But hey, remdesivir and masks.. Edited March 4, 2023 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711 This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care. No, American doctors treat mostly American illnesses. Unless you work in an International travel clinic, you most likely have never prescribed it. Common things are common, just not here.... Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988. It proved ideal in many ways, being highly effective and broad-spectrum, safe, well tolerated and could be easily administered (a single, annual oral dose). What was the reasoning for your preferred media outlets to refer to it as horse medicine as opposed to trying to report it straightforward? It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this? 2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711 This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care. How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this? How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid? This is how science works and how we find answers to difficult questions. It's often messy, something greatly misunderstood by many on this board https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this? How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid? Invermectin is given to 250 million people a year and less than 1 million horses, you are truly special. As for how it works, maybe read what I posted from 2017 otherwise I don't know what to say because if you are illiterate I can't help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, Roundybout said: It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this? I don’t deny it, nor do I care who took what or where they got it. It’s a medication, proven safe and effective and used by hundreds of millions of people over decades. Why did your favored media mockingly refer to it as horse medicine? Why not just play it straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I don’t deny it, nor do I care who took what or where they got it. It’s a medication, proven safe and effective and used by hundreds of millions of people over decades. Why did your favored media mockingly refer to it as horse medicine? Why not just play it straight? In the US, it is a horse medicine. Avoid eating shite and you should never need it: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/worms-in-humans/ Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: In the US, it is a horse medicine. In the US it is approved for human use, just not Covid, please stop pretending you are a doctor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: In the US it is approved for human use, just not Covid, please stop pretending you are a doctor. approved and rarely used (perhaps occasionally in red states where outhouses still exist). I couldn't care less what you think of me. Your disapproval is a badge of honor. I practiced very successfully for over 30 years and could find a job in any state and many countries tomorrow. Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: In the US, it is a horse medicine. Avoid eating shite and you should never need it: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/worms-in-humans/ https://clincalc.com/DrugStats/Drugs/Ivermectin Any thoughts on why US doctors prescribed horse medicine for people over 300,000 times in 2017? It certainly wasn’t covid. I eagerly await your spin. Should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: https://clincalc.com/DrugStats/Drugs/Ivermectin Any thoughts on why US doctors prescribed horse medicine for people over 300,000 times in 2017? It certainly wasn’t covid. I eagerly await your spin. Should be good. Probably for those "damn foreigners" who immigrated from "shite hole" countries or off label by fringe doctors like that witch doctor who prescribed it 1000ands of time for Covid. or maybe in barefoot, poor sanitation red state areas. I can't recall a single patient with it on their med list. Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Probably for those "damn foreigners" who immigrated from "shite hole" countries or off label by fringe doctors like that witch doctor who prescribed it 1000ands of time for Covid. I knew it would be good. Thanks for not disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Humpty Dumpty's wall is falling down https://newrepublic.com/article/170959/cpac-2023-bannon-trump-desantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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