Biden Is The Green Energy President

[daz28]

7 minutes ago, The Governor said:

You’re lucky this time.
 

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2021/4/26/22403599/biden-red-meat-ban-burger-kudlow?__twitter_impression=true

Fox is already correcting the claims.  It's kind of ironic that the crowd you can throw any red meat at, and they'll devour it fell for this.  Newest Republican fear mongering: they're coming for your cheeseburgers, because Biden canceled 4th of July failed.

[B-Man]

Joe Biden is not banning meat and conservatives are stupid for thinking he’d do something like that

 

and also Joe Biden should do something like that.

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

Where’s the beef?

 

Well, if it’s in your fridge, and you’re trying to figure out what to do with it, looks like you won’t get any ideas from popular recipe site Epicurious.

 

Not anymore:

 

 

 

“Pro-planet.”

 

That’s cute.

 

 

So you’re getting rid of all the beef content on your site? Even the old stuff?

 

No. All our previously published beef content is still available and there are no plans to remove it. You may also see beef pop up in our recipe galleries, most of which are archival pieces of content that get lightly updated every year.

 

So, you’re not doing a complete beef purge, then. 

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Where’s the beef?

 

Well, if it’s in your fridge, and you’re trying to figure out what to do with it, looks like you won’t get any ideas from popular recipe site Epicurious.

 

Not anymore:

 

 

 

“Pro-planet.”

 

That’s cute.

 

 

So you’re getting rid of all the beef content on your site? Even the old stuff?

 

No. All our previously published beef content is still available and there are no plans to remove it. You may also see beef pop up in our recipe galleries, most of which are archival pieces of content that get lightly updated every year.

 

So, you’re not doing a complete beef purge, then. 

 

What the ***** is this noise?  So Epicurious is no longer going to post recipes containing beef?  Well they just became websitus no gratis for this Chef.  Idiots. 

[Governor]

23 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Where’s the beef?

 

Well, if it’s in your fridge, and you’re trying to figure out what to do with it, looks like you won’t get any ideas from popular recipe site Epicurious.

 

Not anymore:

 

 

 

“Pro-planet.”

 

That’s cute.

 

 

So you’re getting rid of all the beef content on your site? Even the old stuff?

 

No. All our previously published beef content is still available and there are no plans to remove it. You may also see beef pop up in our recipe galleries, most of which are archival pieces of content that get lightly updated every year.

 

So, you’re not doing a complete beef purge, then. 

I don’t know who they are but this is amazing and I just became a Chef!

[Chef Jim]

Just now, The Governor said:

I don’t know who they are but this is amazing and I just became a Chef!

 

Why is it amazing?  If you want to frequent a site the refuses to post article/recipes about a particular type of meat you are not a Chef.  You're a weenie. 

[Governor]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Why is it amazing?  If you want to frequent a site the refuses to post article/recipes about a particular type of meat you are not a Chef.  You're a weenie. 

Mostly because you hate it.

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Mostly because you hate it.

 

That's what you base your opinions on?  You're not much of a thinker either are you?  

[Governor]

9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

That's what you base your opinions on?  You're not much of a thinker either are you?  

Just for the record, when I told you guys about “The war on fatties” I never said that it was in Biden’s infrastructure bill. I just said that legislation was already drawn up and ready to go at some point, meaning 5-7 years from now.

 

Everyone acted like they had never heard the argument before.

 

Will you be eating beef like you are now 10 years from now? NO. You absolutely won’t be.

Edited April 27, 2021 by The Governor

[daz28]

13 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Just for the record, when I told you guys about “The war on fatties” I never said that it was in Biden’s infrastructure bill. I just said that legislation was already drawn up and ready to go at some point, meaning 5-7 years from now.

 

Everyone acted like they had never heard the argument before.

 

Will you be eating beef like you are now 10 years from now? NO. You absolutely won’t be.

Trying to take beef away from Americans would be like trying to take away cigs and alcohol.  Never gonna happen.  See prohibition.  

[Governor]

Just now, daz28 said:

Trying to take beef away from Americans would be like trying to take away cigs and alcohol.  Never gonna happen.  See prohibition.  

Cigarettes are a bad example. Tobacco usage has dropped drastically over the last 10 years. We want people to consume less, not consume none.

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Trying to take beef away from Americans would be like trying to take away cigs and alcohol.  Never gonna happen.  See prohibition.  

Personally, I think we need to annihilate the dairy industry before we tackle beef. That stuff is bad news and kills the most people and puts the biggest strain on the HC system.

 

“Milk does the body good” might be the biggest lie ever told to the American people.

[daz28]

1 minute ago, The Governor said:

Cigarettes are a bad example. Tobacco usage has dropped drastically over the last 10 years. We want people to consume less, not consume none.

The government didn't cut smoking rates, cancer did.  Nutrition awareness has already been tried, and were still a very obese country.  It's engrained into our economy so much that you can't help one without hurting the other.  People want tasty food.  it's that simple. 

[Governor]

10 minutes ago, daz28 said:

The government didn't cut smoking rates, cancer did.  Nutrition awareness has already been tried, and were still a very obese country.  It's engrained into our economy so much that you can't help one without hurting the other.  People want tasty food.  it's that simple. 

Of course they did. They made them 12-20 dollars a pack. People decided that they’d rather use that money elsewhere and smoking dropped immediately. That’s how you change behaviors. Taxation.

 

Chef Jim can still have a greasy burger but it will cost him 67 dollars. Over time, he will decide that the dopamine blast he gets from eating it isn’t worth 67 dollars and he’ll only do it occasionally.

Edited April 27, 2021 by The Governor

[daz28]

20 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Of course they did. They made them 12-20 dollars a pack. People decided that they’d rather use that money elsewhere and smoking dropped immediately. That’s how you change behaviors. Taxation.

 

Chef Jim can still have a greasy burger but it will cost him 67 dollars. Over time, he will decide that the dopamine blast he gets from eating it isn’t worth 67 dollars and he’ll only do it occasionally.

Sin taxes are the most incredibly stupid idea that a free country that's free of laws based on religion could ever come up with.  Just so you know cigs on the rez are less than $1 a pack, so there goes that theory.  Also, I still know people who pay the ridiculous prices anyways.  Lying politicians are the single greatest threat to our country, so maybe we should charge people $10k and a random body part to vote?????????????? 

[Governor]

12 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Sin taxes are the most incredibly stupid idea that a free country that's free of laws based on religion could ever come up with.  Just so you know cigs on the rez are less than $1 a pack, so there goes that theory.  Also, I still know people who pay the ridiculous prices anyways.  Lying politicians are the single greatest threat to our country, so maybe we should charge people $10k and a random body part to vote?????????????? 

Take a walk through NYC these days. You’ll notice thst no one is smoking. It wasn’t like that in the 90’s. It’s because they’re too expensive.

 

Now, everyone still smokes in NC. It’s a tobacco state. Why? Because they’re only $6 a pack.

[bdutton]

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, The Governor said:

 

 

Will you be eating beef like you are now 10 years from now? NO. You absolutely won’t be.

Yes I absolutely will be. 
 

1 hour ago, The Governor said:

Take a walk through NYC these days. You’ll notice thst no one is smoking. It wasn’t like that in the 90’s. It’s because they’re too expensive.

 

Now, everyone still smokes in NC. It’s a tobacco state. Why? Because they’re only $6 a pack.

Ah yes. Legislate behavior.  Hey government!  Leave me alone 

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 4/21/2021 at 4:18 PM, The Governor said:

What an amazing man that Biden is. Most successful “first 100 days” in history!

IMO, you can’t really have an honest conversation about the environment without first mentioning “meat consumption.”

 

Nothing else really matters until the “fatties” stop this behavior.

 

Regarding civil infrastructure and climate change, I would argue strongly that Biden hasn’t done NEARLY enough to “meet the moment” during his first 100 days. But ugh…whatever…I’ll save that lengthy debate for another day.

 

Being the ostentatious vegan that I am (see: my beautiful profile wallpaper!), I very much like the side debate on meat consumption that has emerged. The fat-shaming tactic isn’t the one I would go with, but you did include a quote from Mean Girls, so that makes it more than okay in my book! Let there be no doubt: those fatty omnivores hate us DIME PIECE vegans for our low BMI’s and for our glowing, phytonutrient-enriched skin!

 

You highlighted the most salient point: reducing meat intake is the best singular thing an individual can possibly do for the environment, due to the extraordinarily disproportionate amount of land/water resources consumed and greenhouse gases emitted relative to plant-based protein/calorie alternatives (legumes, grains, etc.). Same goes for dairy versus plant-based dairy alternatives (almond milk, rice milk, soy milk, cashew milk, etc.).

 

As RochesterRob explained, a regressive sin tax would not be the most desirable way to reduce meat consumption. To be clear: meat/dairy consumption is most definitely a negative environmental externality, so in principle I have no moral qualms taxing it (not to mention the animals rights component or the burden on our already sh!tty health care system). But there are so many better proposed solutions out there: cap-and-trade permit markets for the meat/dairy industries is one such method I would prefer over sin taxes, though so far I’m not 100% convinced of any particular solution. If you insist on going the sin/carbon tax route on meat consumption, you would first need to address the American food desert dilemma that plagues poor communities. The poor need viable alternatives to meat! Oh and dairy must be included in the conversation, too, because the poor in America are disproportionately minorities and minorities are disproportionately lactose intolerant.

 

Affordable lab-grown meat will be the ultimate game changer in this conversation!! I can’t wait for that day to come!! Oooh and speaking of game changers, everyone please check out all of these vegan documentaries for free on YouTube:

 

The Game Changers (2019)

Dominion (2018)

What The Health (2017)

Cowspiracy (2014)

Earthlings (2005)

 

EDIT: spelling error. It’s CIVIL infrastructure, not CIVIC.

Edited April 27, 2021 by ComradeKayAdams

[B-Man]

 

 

Former Obama Administration Scientist Trashes Biden’s Climate ‘Hysteria.’

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/04/29/bidens-climate-agenda-gets-trashed-by-obama-administration-scientist-n1443486

[Tiberius]

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The Environmental Protection Agency will propose a rule Monday aimed at sharply cutting the use and production of a class of powerful greenhouse gases used widely in refrigeration and air conditioning. The proposal marks the first time President Biden’s administration has used the power of the federal government to mandate a cut in climate pollution.

Unlike many of the administration’s other climate initiatives, there’s broad bipartisan support for curbing hydrofluorocarbons, pollutants thousands of times more potent than carbon dioxide at warming the planet. Congress agreed at the end of last year to slash the super-pollutants by 85 percent over the next 15 years as part of a broader omnibus bill.

Altogether, a global phasing down of hydrofluorocarbons, also known as HFCs, is projected to avert up to 0.5 degree Celsius (0.9 degrees Fahrenheit) of warming by the end of the century.

Widely used in refrigeration as well as residential and commercial air conditioning and heat pumps, HFCs were developed as a substitute for chemicals that depleted the Earth’s protective ozone layer. But their heat-trapping properties have helped further fuel rising temperatures.

“With this proposal, EPA is taking another significant step under President Biden’s ambitious agenda to address the climate crisis,” EPA Administrator Michael Regan said in a statement. "The phasedown of HFCs is also widely supported by the business community, as it will help promote American leadership in innovation and manufacturing of new climate-safe products. Put simply, this action is good for our planet and our economy.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/05/03/epa-climate-hfcs/

[Governor]

GenX was one of the main reasons I moved out of Wilmington, NC.

 

I drank tainted water for 5 years or so. Trump changed what qualifies as tainted during tests so it just isn’t safe there anymore. They could’ve actually fixed it. There was a reverse osmosis plan coming.

[Chef Jim]

44 minutes ago, The Governor said:

 

I drank tainted water for 5 years or so.

Ahhhhhj it all makes sense now. 😉

[Governor]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Ahhhhhj it all makes sense now. 😉

Eventually I’ll be in on that class action lawsuit just like the BP Oil Spill. Gettin PAID!

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Eventually I’ll be in on that class action lawsuit just like the BP Oil Spill. Gettin PAID!

Don’t spend your $.15 all in one place. The lawyers will be calling me after. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

25 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Eventually I’ll be in on that class action lawsuit just like the BP Oil Spill. Gettin PAID!

The tainted water game, eh?  They call that a glass action suit in the biz. 

[Governor]

2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The tainted water game, eh?  They call that a glass action suit in the biz. 

It’s the same chemical that DuPont was dumping in West Virginia. They just changed the chemical so it can’t be easily detected.

 

There’s  a newer movie about it that stars Mark Ruffalo. They did the screening in downtown Wilmington.

[Governor]

32 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Don’t spend your $.15 all in one place. The lawyers will be calling me after. 

.15? BP paid me 10k. 
 

I want 50k from DuPont!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 minutes ago, The Governor said:

It’s the same chemical that DuPont was dumping in West Virginia. They just changed the chemical so it can’t be easily detected.

 

There’s  a newer movie about it that stars Mark Ruffalo. They did the screening in downtown Wilmington.

Sorry, Mark Ruffalo is on my no-fly list.  His douche rating is too high, and I don’t much like preachy movies based on actual events as interpreted for the big screen with creative license.  I certainly don’t support them financially anymore.  
 

Now if it was Leo DiCap, I’d make an exception.  
 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/05/03/epa-climate-hfcs/

That’s the problem;  government has no clue what it is doing or it doesn’t care because it has big donors to appease. 
 

To summarize,  the thing they mandated everyone switch to, to address the ozone crisis,  accelerated the climate crisis. 👍 

 

Obviously it’s too easy to produce new chemicals without knowing the impact.

 

 Meanwhile just another example of unintended consequences from the fed. 

Edited May 4, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Tiberius]

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By Bob Henson and 

Jason Samenow

May 4, 2021 at 7:00 a.m. EDT

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The official calculation of what constitutes “normal” U.S. climate has been updated — and to virtually nobody’s surprise, it’s a warmer picture than ever before.

On Tuesday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released an updated set of climate averages for the contiguous United States based on the 30-year period from 1991 to 2020, including more than 9,000 daily reporting stations. It refers to these averages* as “climate normals,” and updates them once every decade.

Compared with previous 30-year periods, the climate has turned unambiguously warmer.

“We’re really seeing the fingerprints of climate change in the new normals,” Michael Palecki, manager of NOAA’s effort to update the climate normals, said at an April news conference. “We’re not trying to hide that. We’re in fact reflecting that.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/05/04/noaa-new-climate-normals/

15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

That’s the problem;  government has no clue what it is doing or it doesn’t care because it has big donors to appease. 
 

To summarize,  the thing they mandated everyone switch to, to address the ozone crisis,  accelerated the climate crisis. 👍 

 

Obviously it’s too easy to produce new chemicals without knowing the impact.

 

 Meanwhile just another example of unintended consequences from the fed. 

They stopped the ozone depletion and remember Acid Rain? Well, fixed that. 

 

You guys are outdated 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/05/04/noaa-new-climate-normals/

They stopped the ozone depletion and remember Acid Rain? Well, fixed that. 

 

You guys are outdated 

I remember they stopping talking about it as a crisis. 
 

I am all for environmental regulatory agencies but they should be apolitical 

Edited May 4, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Chef Jim]

9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I remember they stopping talking about it as a crisis 

 

No according to Tibs acid rain doesn't exist anymore.  

[B-Man]

 

TRUST THE MODELS. THEY’RE DONE WITH COMPUTERS, AND BY EXPERTS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by B-Man

[daz28]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I remember they stopping talking about it as a crisis. 
 

I am all for environmental regulatory agencies but they should be apolitical 

As long as greed is king, that will never happen.  They have everyone arguing about the science, when we all know cash is king.  

[SoCal Deek]

Switching gears (pardon the pun), if the Biden Administration really wants to get Americans off of fossil fuels why not start by simply regulating it so the auto companies can no longer make and sell gas powered vehicles by a certain date/year?  Let's say 2026....five years from now.  Why do anything else?  What is all the federal spending for?  Gas powered cars will slowly fade away.  After all they don't last forever.  We already have time tested electric car technology. The government passes new regulations on auto safety and emissions all the time (miles per gallon, air bags, seat belts, etc.)...what's the problem here? Just require the auto industry to change.  Next crisis?

[B-Man]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Switching gears (pardon the pun), if the Biden Administration really wants to get Americans off of fossil fuels why not start by simply regulating it so the auto companies can no longer make and sell gas powered vehicles by a certain date/year?  Let's say 2026....five years from now.  Why do anything else?  What is all the federal spending for?  Gas powered cars will slowly fade away.  After all they don't last forever.  We already have time tested electric car technology. The government passes new regulations on auto safety and emissions all the time (miles per gallon, air bags, seat belts, etc.)...what's the problem here? Just require the auto industry to change.  Next crisis?

 

Simple answer.

 

They would be voted out.............and they need that power.

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Switching gears (pardon the pun), if the Biden Administration really wants to get Americans off of fossil fuels why not start by simply regulating it so the auto companies can no longer make and sell gas powered vehicles by a certain date/year?  Let's say 2026....five years from now.  Why do anything else?  What is all the federal spending for?  Gas powered cars will slowly fade away.  After all they don't last forever.  We already have time tested electric car technology. The government passes new regulations on auto safety and emissions all the time (miles per gallon, air bags, seat belts, etc.)...what's the problem here? Just require the auto industry to change.  Next crisis?

I'll take a stab at it.  If they let the auto industry do it, and it's an infrastructure nightmare, they can take the blame, because you'll still have to buy a car.  If the Demmocrats mandate it, and it doesn't go well, they lose votes.  

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

I'll take a stab at it.  If they let the auto industry do it, and it's an infrastructure nightmare, they can take the blame, because you'll still have to buy a car.  If the Demmocrats mandate it, and it doesn't go well, they lose votes.  

I guess so, but it's just like any other new regulations.  We see them in every industry every year.  Set the regulation and mandate that the industry meet it.  In this case, it isn't hard at all.  The car companies already know how to make electric cars. They don't need to invent any new technologies.  They just need to be given time to re-set the assembly lines to produce them.  Then....the burden will fall square on the consumer to adjust their lifestyle accordingly.  It will of course limit how far you can drive without stopping to re-charge.  But once again, that's a lifestyle change.  Long family road trips will of course be out!  But nobody's daily commuting should have to change.

[daz28]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I guess so, but it's just like any other new regulations.  We see them in every industry every year.  Set the regulation and mandate that the industry meet it.  In this case, it isn't hard at all.  The car companies already know how to make electric cars. They don't need to invent any new technologies.  They just need to be given time to re-set the assembly lines to produce them.  Then....the burden will fall square on the consumer to adjust their lifestyle accordingly.  It will of course limit how far you can drive without stopping to re-charge.  But once again, that's a lifestyle change.  Long family road trips will of course be out!  But nobody's daily commuting should have to change.

Wireless refuelling lol