All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Sure🤣. It's the ADL and not that Elon is an asshat who no one x MAGA's like and trust. That 60% number. It's roughly the number of non MAGA's in the country. Buy some teslas dummies. He picked the wrong team. I actually really like the chevy electric vehicle. A friends wife has one. Really nice. https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/blazer-ev Until recently Musk was a darling of the liberal social set and hailed as a technological visionary. But since aligning against the censorship regime he's been transitioned to persona non grata. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Until recently Musk was a darling of the liberal social set and hailed as a technological visionary. But since aligning against the censorship regime he's been transitioned to persona non grata. He did some censorship for Erdogan in the Turkey elections. He picks and chooses who to censor often favoring autocrats He’s picked the wrong team. Tesla has cut prices pi$$ing off early buyers and showing weakness. Twitter is doing poorly and has nothing to do with the ADL. he was never a darling of mine Edited September 5, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: He did some censorship for Erdogan in the Turkey elections. He picks and chooses who to censor often favoring autocrats He’s picked the wrong team. Tesla has cut prices pi$$ing off early buyers and showing weakness. Twitter is doing poorly and has nothing to do with the ADL. he was never a darling of mine None of that is unique to X (Twitter). Social media platforms censor for various regimes. Google and other applications perform censorship tasks for the CCP. ISP's block external content and websites so governments can control media and messaging their subjects can receive. EU censorship rules require social media platforms to do the bidding of governments and multi-nation government entities like the EU. Or face fines and other consequences for disobedience to their rules. Social media platforms in the US work with government agencies and entities to control messaging. The problem isn't Musk, or Google, or Facebook, or ISP's. And the only reason Musk is getting called out is because he's a generally uncooperative torn in the side of the regime. The problem is authoritarian government policies and regimes. Slowly freedom of thought and expression are being strangled while everyone focuses on petty disagreements. Edited September 5, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Slowly freedom of thought and expression are being strangled while everyone focuses on petty disagreements. disinformation is not freedom of thought. I don't see the CEO's of alphabet companies personally spreading disinformation or promoting others who do. musk picked the wrong team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: None of that is unique to X (Twitter). Social media platforms censor for various regimes. Google and other applications perform censorship tasks for the CCP. ISP's block external content and websites so governments can control media and messaging their subjects can receive. EU censorship rules require social media platforms to do the bidding of governments and multi-nation government entities like the EU. Or face fines and other consequences for disobedience to their rules. Social media platforms in the US work with government agencies and entities to control messaging. The problem isn't Musk, or Google, or Facebook, or ISP's. And the only reason Musk is getting called out is because he's a generally uncooperative torn in the side of the regime. The problem is authoritarian government policies and regimes. Slowly freedom of thought and expression are being strangled while everyone focuses on petty disagreements. The censorship fascist will argue against that all day long. they support the merger of corporate and state power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: disinformation is not freedom of thought. I don't see the CEO's of alphabet companies personally spreading disinformation or promoting others who do. musk picked the wrong team. Who gets to decide what constitutes disinformation and what right do they have to decide for me what is right or wrong? What can't I just decide for myself what to believe and what not to believe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Who gets to decide what constitutes disinformation and what right do they have to decide for me what is right or wrong? What can't I just decide for myself what to believe and what not to believe? The state and the fortune 500. of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Who gets to decide what constitutes disinformation and what right do they have to decide for me what is right or wrong? What can't I just decide for myself what to believe and what not to believe? Demonstrable lies are disinformation. You seem tech savvy. There are algorithms that can easily weed those out right? There are many of them being spread by people like trump, musk and actual authoritarians. So go ahead and choose musk. I couldn't care less. Edited September 5, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Demonstrable lies are disinformation So pretty much every piece of dem/corporate theatre and narrative of the last five years? Edited September 5, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: So pretty much every piece of dem theatre and narrative of the last five years? Farley, you are irredeemable. Read all the propaganda you desire. But with twitter revenue down 60%, you may need to look elsewhere soon. He picked the wrong team. Edited September 5, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Farley, you are irredeemable. Read all the propaganda you desire. But with twitter revenue down 60%, you may need to look elsewhere soon. He picked the wrong team. Team State/Corporate censorship for the win? amirite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Team State/Corporate censorship for the win? amirite truth for the win. lies are for losers who can't win fairly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 Quack MD might have the worst case of TDS this side of Billsfuk.c Holy hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Just now, BillsFanNC said: Quack MD might have the worst case of TDS this side of Billsfuk.c Holy hell. I'd rather have a decent human as prez and stay in Virginia. I do what I can... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 ⬆️ Nucking Futs dude... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Demonstrable lies are disinformation. You seem tech savvy. There are algorithms that can easily weed those out right? There are many of them being spread by people like trump, musk and actual authoritarians. So go ahead and choose musk. I couldn't care less. I'd suggest you approach sounds more than reasonable but I'd also argue its mostly theoretical. My major objection is a conclusion that the people running "the algorithms" are not driven by a desire to protect the truth. They're driven by self-interest. And when both those factors align it works as you might suggest. But when they don't align, it doesn't. And it doesn't many times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: I'd suggest you approach sounds more than reasonable but I'd also argue its mostly theoretical. My major objection is a conclusion that the people running "the algorithms" are not driven by a desire to protect the truth. They're driven by self-interest. And when both those factors align it works as you might suggest. But when they don't align, it doesn't. And it doesn't many times. perhaps a unaffiliated group of experts from both political sides could approve or disapprove the algorithm. it could be standardized and used across the industry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: perhaps a unaffiliated group of experts from both political sides or preferably, some group not affiliated with either side. truth doesn't have a political side. in reality that algorithm is the companies largest IP asset. Edited September 5, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Chris farley said: or preferably, some group not affiliated with either side. truth doesn't have a political side. in reality that algorithm is the companies largest IP asset. What's fun is using various unpopular topics, such as "COVID vaccines not effective" for a search against various search engines like Google or Bing and then compare how the results are ranked and displayed. You can gather some insights into how specific positive or negative source and stories are displayed and ranked or omitted by the algorithms. I expect if you had some AI powered programs you could perform enough searches to produce enough data and intelligence to more or less reverse engineer the algorithm, identify what sources, authors, and opinions are approved and which are not approved. Edited September 5, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What's fun is using various unpopular topics, such as "COVID vaccines not effective" for a search against various search engines like Google or Bing It's not that complicated. omit everything that doesn't come from a peer reviewed scientific journal. Same for Climate change. Edited September 5, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What's fun is using various unpopular topics, such as "COVID vaccines not effective" for a search against various search engines like Google or Bing and then compare how the results are ranked and displayed. You can gather some insights into how specific positive or negative source and stories are displayed and ranked or omitted by the algorithms. I expect if you had some AI powered programs you could perform enough searches to produce enough data and intelligence to more or less reverse engineer the algorithm, identify what sources, authors, and opinions are approved and which are not approved. I read an article that argued he bought Twitter just for the algorithms and data, for AI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 9 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Until recently Musk was a darling of the liberal social set and hailed as a technological visionary. But since aligning against the censorship regime he's been transitioned to persona non grata. 5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: None of that is unique to X (Twitter). Social media platforms censor for various regimes. Google and other applications perform censorship tasks for the CCP. ISP's block external content and websites so governments can control media and messaging their subjects can receive. EU censorship rules require social media platforms to do the bidding of governments and multi-nation government entities like the EU. Or face fines and other consequences for disobedience to their rules. Social media platforms in the US work with government agencies and entities to control messaging. The problem isn't Musk, or Google, or Facebook, or ISP's. And the only reason Musk is getting called out is because he's a generally uncooperative torn in the side of the regime. The problem is authoritarian government policies and regimes. Slowly freedom of thought and expression are being strangled while everyone focuses on petty disagreements. Libs can't stand that Twitter/X no longer censors for them. But Elon's got Yuck Fou money and he don't GAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 It was all just the government assisting with "content moderation"... Right King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just like the SPLC, the lemmings think that they are for fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanNC Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 The government assisting with content moderation... 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 10 hours ago, BillStime said: lmao Idiots Assuming this is correct, that there was an omission in the complaint, you believe that indicates this is a frivolous suit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Assuming this is correct, that there was an omission in the complaint, you believe that indicates this is a frivolous suit? PPP rule 1A... When assuming anything about the content of a Billsfk.c post, assume correctly that he's spectacularly wrong. - X Corp claims that Media Matters, a Washington D.C. non-profit, and Hananoki, a writer for the organization, deliberately misrepresented X's platform to damage its reputation and business relationships. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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