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11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...how YOU have escaped his throes is WELL beyond me.......

I wear a 50 cent mask.  Unlike the stooges who follow Trump. 

30 minutes ago, Putin said:

Biden doesn’t need rallies cuz it takes people to fill them ! 

Tulsa says hi! 

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2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I wear a 50 cent mask.  Unlike the stooges who follow Trump. 

Tulsa says hi! 

Im talking about a crowd of more then 2 people ! 
And if wearing mask is so safe I guess we can actually go and vote right ?? 
like we do when we go to buy our groceries?

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55 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm convinced. Sean Davis, former senior policy advisor to Rick Perry, has a solid track record of being right on the money:

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/rick-perry-criticizes-donald-trump-destroy-republican-party-120482

There’s a difference between party membership and ideological identification .  That matters. 

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Just now, SectionC3 said:

There’s a difference between party membership and ideological identification .  That matters. 

Agreed. We don't know party affiliation until the exit polls are taken. Read any good polling expert -- simply sampling according to party identification at this stage will result in a bad poll.

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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Agreed. We don't know party affiliation until the exit polls are taken. Read any good polling expert -- simply sampling according to party identification at this stage will result in a bad poll.

Agreed.  And asking how one identifies is different from asking how one is registered.  And that might explain the anomaly v 2016 that Davis notes.  

3 minutes ago, Putin said:

Im talking about a crowd of more then 2 people ! 
And if wearing mask is so safe I guess we can actually go and vote right ?? 
like we do when we go to buy our groceries?

We could.  And we can vote absentee, which is by mail, just like Trump!  If we can golf, then we can vote in person, right??

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7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Agreed.  And asking how one identifies is different from asking how one is registered.  And that might explain the anomaly v 2016 that Davis notes.  

We could.  And we can vote absentee, which is by mail, just like Trump!  If we can golf, then we can vote in person, right??

So we can go vote in person right ?? 
or are we going to die ? 
but feel free to add golf or Trump in your response 

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42 minutes ago, Putin said:

So we can go vote in person right ?? 
or are we going to die ? 
but feel free to add golf or Trump in your response 

Maybe both!  But the buck stops at the top.  If trump can golf he can vote in person.  He didn’t, and he has no non-hoax ground upon which to challenge absentee voting.  And neither do you! 

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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm convinced. Sean Davis, former senior policy advisor to Rick Perry, has a solid track record of being right on the money:

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/rick-perry-criticizes-donald-trump-destroy-republican-party-120482

 

Is there anything more predictable than a leftist using 'shoot the messenger' as their primary way to argue a point?

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

What makes you think I'm a leftist?

Because I don't suffer fools posting idiotic takes on polling like this Sean Davis?

 

Because leftists  always make lazy posts like yours. No original thought. Just "I don't like the guy's message, so I'll mock the guy and not the message."

 

Lazy, leftist, predictable.

 

But hey...it doesn't completely mean you're a leftist. Maybe you're a Canadian, which is even lazier than being a leftist. Or maybe leftists aren't left ENOUGH for you, and you're more of a Che guy.

 

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33 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Maybe both!  But the buck stops at the top.  If trump can golf he can vote in person.  He didn’t, and he has no non-hoax ground upon which to challenge absentee voting.  And neither do you! 

 

thanks for trying I know it’s not easy to give a straight answer 

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32 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Because leftists  always make lazy posts like yours. No original thought. Just "I don't like the guy's message, so I'll mock the guy and not the message."

 

Lazy, leftist, predictable.

 

But hey...it doesn't completely mean you're a leftist. Maybe you're a Canadian, which is even lazier than being a leftist. Or maybe leftists aren't left ENOUGH for you, and you're more of a Che guy.

 

Yep, that's me with the Che poster on my wall.

Seriously -- some responses are snarky, some serious. After the initial snark, if you scroll up you'll see a well-informed exchange between me and another poster about why Sean Davis has thrown an extraordinarily lazy take on polling and sampling error up on his twitter. So it makes sense to point out that perhaps this is because he is a hack -- a hack who previously helped work on policy for Rick Perry that was in absolute opposition to that other "Death of the Republican Party" guy who got the nomination, only to see him start churning out geez-I-wish-it-were-true polling "analysis."

Enough explanation for you?

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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yep, that's me with the Che poster on my wall.

Seriously -- some responses are snarky, some serious. After the initial snark, if you scroll up you'll see a well-informed exchange between me and another poster about why Sean Davis has thrown an extraordinarily lazy take on polling and sampling error up on his twitter. So it makes sense to point out that perhaps this is because he is a hack -- a hack who previously helped work on policy for Rick Perry that was in absolute opposition to that other "Death of the Republican Party" guy who got the nomination, only to see him start churning out geez-I-wish-it-were-true polling "analysis."

Enough explanation for you?

 

You're definitely showing growth.

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Trump’s nightmare is coming true: Two ‘blue wall’ states aren’t even close

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala D. Harris speaks to a participant during a roundtable in Milwaukee on Sept. 7.
Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala D. Harris speaks to a participant during a roundtable in Milwaukee on Sept. 7. (Kerem Yucel/AFP/Getty Images)
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Public polling for the presidential election shows tight races, with former vice president Joe Biden ahead in North Carolina (1 percentage point), Florida (2.4), Texas (about 1 point) and President Trump ahead in Georgia (by less than 2 points). Before going further, let’s appreciate what rotten results these are for Trump. He is performing much worse than any GOP nominee since 1976. (It would be as if Biden had not nailed down Connecticut.) In Georgia, a Republican has not done this poorly since 1992. For Trump to be struggling with what should be slam-dunk states at this stage in the race is a sign for him and his supporters that something is really wrong.

What is even more remarkable is that Biden does not remotely need to win any of them. That he is even competitive in these states suggests he is running well above Hillary Clinton’s 2016 performance. He could lose all of them and still not break a sweat in winning the electoral college.

 

The states that are not really close at all are Michigan and Wisconsin, where Biden leads by averages of 7.5 and 6.8 percentage points, respectively. If Biden wins those states, as seems increasingly likely, even after Trump’s racial scare-mongering in Kenosha, Wis., he would need only one of the following to win (assuming everything else falls as it did in 2016): Pennsylvania (where Biden is up by nearly 5 points); Arizona (where Biden is up by about 5 points); plus a single delegate from Nebraska’s second congressional district; Florida; North Carolina; or Georgia.

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Put differently, unless Trump can reverse the trajectory of the race in Michigan and Wisconsin, he has to win practically every other competitive state. What is remarkable, however, is how badly he is doing in Wisconsin, once thought to be the hardest of the three critical Rust Belt states (along with Michigan and Pennsylvania) for Biden to win.

The latest CNN poll, in which Biden leads by 10 points among likely voters in Wisconsin, is revealing. “Biden is widely viewed as more apt to unite the country (55% to 36%) and handle racial inequality in the US (55% to 38%). He is more trusted by a 13-point margin on the coronavirus outbreak (54% to 41%),” CNN reports. “He is more often seen as having a clear plan to solve the country’s problems (49% to 43%) and has the edge on keeping Americans safe from harm (50% to 45%).” On what is supposed to be Trump’s strongest issue, the economy, it is a statistical tie. Even after Trump’s bashing of Biden as low energy or mentally slow (“projection” really is a thing), the candidates are within the margin of error on stamina and sharpness.

According to the CNN poll, Biden has huge leads among women (24 points), college graduates (28 points), White college graduates (27 points), independents (28 points) and moderates (46 points). He even leads among non-college graduates by 1 point. Trump’s leads among the strongest segments of his base are weak — among men, 3 points, and White non-college graduates, 8 points, and are not nearly enough to make up for his huge deficits elsewhere.

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