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Just now, BillStime said:

I can’t imagine why 

 

 

I can tell you exactly why.  They lost their attempt to seal the evidence, and they don't want that giant poop stain on their public record.  

 

https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-az-centers-around-only-180-votes-attorneys-say/75-b9583623-418e-463d-9434-695d55a0a352

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9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

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Don't for a second underestimate the monster they are going to build if/after he leaves.  If you add up all the Republican pundits and add 1,000 it will still be less than the machine Trump could create if he chooses to.  

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22 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Do you think that having Joe Biden as the alternative had anything do with that?

 

Of course it did.  More importantly, the "R" beside Trump's name had much more to do with that.  It's a false narrative that there are 70+ million Trump cultists in the US.

 

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1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Do you think that having Joe Biden as the alternative had anything do with that?

If it was somebody like Bernie Sanders it would've been 80 million for Trump.  The Democrats avoided political annihilation by uniting behind Biden in the primaries after the South Carolina primary before Super Tuesday.

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13 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Why is this a problem?  Several reasons.  It prohibits the peaceful transition of power which is a staple of our democracy and makes us different than other countries.  It is slowing down the transition making it harder for the new administration to hit the ground running on January 20th. 

 

That's not what Joe says.

 

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"Well, first of all, we are already beginning the transition. We're well under way," Biden said. "And the ability for the administration in any way by failure to recognize our win does not change the dynamic at all and what we're able to do ... We're going to be going, moving along, in a consistent manner, putting together our administration, White House, and reviewing who we're going to pick for the Cabinet positions. And nothing is going to stop that." 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-transition-trump-administration-cooperation/

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3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

It's not a big deal.  Biden was the VP and is well prepared.  People are just used to a peaceful transition of power (hell even Obama had Trump at the White House a couple of days after the election) and we pry aren't getting that.

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The idea out of right wing crazies yesterday and this morning is to pressure state legislatures in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia to not certify the election results because of "widespread fraud". 

 

They want the election results tossed, with neither Biden or Trump reaching 270. In that situation, apparently state delegates in the house would elect the next president and the GOP holds a 28-22 advantage there. 

 

If Trump begins holding rallies next week with this as his talking point, this will be the end of democracy in the US if his plan is successful. 

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1 hour ago, jrober38 said:

The idea out of right wing crazies yesterday and this morning is to pressure state legislatures in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia to not certify the election results because of "widespread fraud". 

 

They want the election results tossed, with neither Biden or Trump reaching 270. In that situation, apparently state delegates in the house would elect the next president and the GOP holds a 28-22 advantage there. 

 

If Trump begins holding rallies next week with this as his talking point, this will be the end of democracy in the US if his plan is successful. 

 

Putin couldn't be happier.

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Just now, BillStime said:

 

Putin couldn't be happier.

 

Trump is currently running the same playbook most successful dictators ran to secure power. 

 

He's currently in the "undermine election results" phase, with the next phase being to establish himself as a dictator. After that, there will be no reason to hold any elections whatsoever. 

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