“Cancel” / Knee-Jerk Culture of 2020 and beyond

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

So you’re saying what we’re seeing here, people losing their livelihoods for having a different opinions, has been going on for years?  You don’t see any more extreme use of the tactic the past 5 or so years? 

Must be nice to be this oblivious to the world around you. 

More extreme in the last 5 years yes.  For an obvious reason.

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

More extreme in the last 5 years yes.  For an obvious reason.

Wait so now it’s more extreme?  Are you confused because you sound confused. 
 

And what do you attribute this increase in the cancel culture to?  

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Wait so now it’s more extreme?  Are you confused because you sound confused. 
 

And what do you attribute this increase in the cancel culture to?  

Yes , it’s more ridiculous now than ever before.  And stupider than before.  And meaningless.  Perhaps obtuse would be a more apt description of your conduct here. 
 

[Chef Jim]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Yes , it’s more ridiculous now than ever before.  And stupider than before.  And meaningless.  Perhaps obtuse would be a more apt description of your conduct here. 
 

But you said or was a myth.  Obtuse?  Me think not. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Warning for the dems from election results in Britain.............

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

21 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

We know.......

 

Explain that to @BillStime   This appears to be something else we can add to his long list of things he doesn't understand. 

I don't think our left-leaning friends will ever admit that cancel culture exists on the left.  Its an exercise in futility to engage them in that effort.  
To admit the left has power to harm others through cancel culture is to admit the left wields powers assigned to the oppressor and therefore is the oppressor.  This would conflict with the perpetual victim narrative and invalidate their entire belief system.  Therefore, leftist cancel culture cannot possibly exist and it is just a false narrative created by the right to further assault them.  Psychologically I think its what's called "cognitive dissonance.   

[oldmanfan]

21 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I don't think our left-leaning friends will ever admit that cancel culture exists on the left.  Its an exercise in futility to engage them in that effort.  
To admit the left has power to harm others through cancel culture is to admit the left wields powers assigned to the oppressor and therefore is the oppressor.  This would conflict with the perpetual victim narrative and invalidate their entire belief system.  Therefore, leftist cancel culture cannot possibly exist and it is just a false narrative created by the right to further assault them.  Psychologically I think its what's called "cognitive dissonance.   

Cancel culture is a nonsense term used to try and inflame the right wing base.  In reality, both political persuasions do this crap.  They try and influence businesses to bend to their political will.  It has gone on for years and years.  It is not some new thing that only the left wing does, look at the list I posted earlier where right wing nut jobs tried to close down companies like the NFL and many others.

 

Businesses will always do what they feel helps their bottom line the most.  If it means adopting a more right wing position, they will do so.  If it means adopting a more left wing position, they will do so.

 

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[All_Pro_Bills]

39 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Cancel culture is a nonsense term used to try and inflame the right wing base.  In reality, both political persuasions do this crap.  They try and influence businesses to bend to their political will.  It has gone on for years and years.  It is not some new thing that only the left wing does, look at the list I posted earlier where right wing nut jobs tried to close down companies like the NFL and many others.

 

Businesses will always do what they feel helps their bottom line the most.  If it means adopting a more right wing position, they will do so.  If it means adopting a more left wing position, they will do so.

 

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I'm not talking about business boycotts or political influence.  That's an entirely different thing.  I'm talking about leftist attacks that are personalized and targeted to specific individuals.  Attacks that seek to ruin people's lives.  Coerce their employers to fire them.  Cause them tangible and personal harm.  Attacks driven by some belief that their "safe spaces" are being violated.  There's a big difference between the two.  

Its about exerting power over the livelihoods of people that dare to oppose their views.  People like the lone editor or writer at the NYT's or other papers that dare to write or publish an article or interview someone expressing views the mob doesn't approve.  Its about controlling what people can do, what people can say, and what people can think.  Its a dangerous threat to democracy and free expression.  And pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it disappear.  Frankly, I'm growing tired of anyone that continues to give these mentally weak and emotionally immature "victims" a pass.  My guess is they were spoiled little brats as children that mommy and daddy didn't have the ability or the stomach to discipline and now they've grown into spoiled adult brats.  

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm not talking about business boycotts or political influence.  That's an entirely different thing.  I'm talking about leftist attacks that are personalized and targeted to specific individuals.  Attacks that seek to ruin people's lives.  Coerce their employers to fire them.  Cause them tangible and personal harm.  Attacks driven by some belief that their "safe spaces" are being violated.  There's a big difference between the two.  

Its about exerting power over the livelihoods of people that dare to oppose their views.  People like the lone editor or writer at the NYT's or other papers that dare to write or publish an article or interview someone expressing views the mob doesn't approve.  Its about controlling what people can do, what people can say, and what people can think.  Its a dangerous threat to democracy and free expression.  And pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it disappear.  Frankly, I'm growing tired of anyone that continues to give these mentally weak and emotionally immature "victims" a pass.  My guess is they were spoiled little brats as children that mommy and daddy didn't have the ability or the stomach to discipline and now they've grown into spoiled adult brats.  

Yea okay bro 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm not talking about business boycotts or political influence.  That's an entirely different thing.  I'm talking about leftist attacks that are personalized and targeted to specific individuals.  Attacks that seek to ruin people's lives.  Coerce their employers to fire them.  Cause them tangible and personal harm.  Attacks driven by some belief that their "safe spaces" are being violated.  There's a big difference between the two.  

Its about exerting power over the livelihoods of people that dare to oppose their views.  People like the lone editor or writer at the NYT's or other papers that dare to write or publish an article or interview someone expressing views the mob doesn't approve.  Its about controlling what people can do, what people can say, and what people can think.  Its a dangerous threat to democracy and free expression.  And pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it disappear.  Frankly, I'm growing tired of anyone that continues to give these mentally weak and emotionally immature "victims" a pass.  My guess is they were spoiled little brats as children that mommy and daddy didn't have the ability or the stomach to discipline and now they've grown into spoiled adult brats.  

And I'm saying that works both ways, on the right and the left, and that I detest it regardless.  I am an independent, very conservative when it comes to fiscal and law and order policies, much more liberal when it comes to social policies.  Why so many people get all hot and bothered about people of different colors or gender identity and such and try to marginalize them is beyond me.  And when such folks then fight back and demand their rights and apply political pressure to do so, I understand.  But it goes too far sometimes.

 

I'll give you an example in my town right now.  The local high school hired a diversity and inclusion officer, mainly in response to minority students feeling bullied and harassed at school.  The school also has wrestled with how to accommodate transgender students and instituted a policy where students should use a restroom of the gender they identify with.  Fine by me there.  A student objected to this based on her religious beliefs (also fine by me, we all have a right to our opinions), and then a transgender student started going after her on social media, telling her she should be killed for her attitude and such.  That is definitively NOT all right by me, and as much as I support the transgender community that student should be disciplined severely for threatening another student.

 

The bottom line in all this is simple:  people are more concerned with yelling about things than listening and learning about the other side.  

[Chef Jim]

20 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Yea okay bro 

You go one that you keep referring to over and over again.  This is like a Globtrotters game where you say “Look!!  The Generals scores 20 points!!”    Sure did but they still got there asses kicked. 

[716er]

Odd that many become more popular after they are "cancelled"

 

Irony or evidence cancel culture is a BS term?

 

You decide

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Yea okay bro 

How are the two of these images even remotely connected? 

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

 

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

Yea okay bro 

You continue to meet my low expectations with your responses.  If you are incapable of presenting an intelligent argument to support your views or counter mine then silence might be the correct approach. 

Edited May 10, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

You continue to meet my low expectations with your responses.  If you are incapable of presenting an intelligent argument to support your views or counter mine then silence might be the correct approach. 

 

So, let me get this straight - here is your quote:

 

I'm talking about leftist attacks that are personalized and targeted to specific individuals.  Attacks that seek to ruin people's lives. 

And I respond with an image of Colin Kaepernick - who was attacked by the right - and you don't LIKE IT?

 

Too damn bad.

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by BillStime

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

And I'm saying that works both ways, on the right and the left, and that I detest it regardless.  I am an independent, very conservative when it comes to fiscal and law and order policies, much more liberal when it comes to social policies.  Why so many people get all hot and bothered about people of different colors or gender identity and such and try to marginalize them is beyond me.  And when such folks then fight back and demand their rights and apply political pressure to do so, I understand.  But it goes too far sometimes.

 

I'll give you an example in my town right now.  The local high school hired a diversity and inclusion officer, mainly in response to minority students feeling bullied and harassed at school.  The school also has wrestled with how to accommodate transgender students and instituted a policy where students should use a restroom of the gender they identify with.  Fine by me there.  A student objected to this based on her religious beliefs (also fine by me, we all have a right to our opinions), and then a transgender student started going after her on social media, telling her she should be killed for her attitude and such.  That is definitively NOT all right by me, and as much as I support the transgender community that student should be disciplined severely for threatening another student.

 

The bottom line in all this is simple:  people are more concerned with yelling about things than listening and learning about the other side.  

It’s interesting the lengths we feel compelled  to go to get to the point where we state emphatically that a person who threatens to kill another should be disciplined severely.  Seems it should be a strait-forward expulsion and that’s that. 
 

Time for one bathroom, multiple stalls and a come as you are approach to 1s, 2s and as necessary and politically correct, 3s.  

Edited May 10, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

It’s interesting the lengths we feel compelled  to go to get to the point where we state emphatically that a person who threatens to kill another should be disciplined severely.  Seems it should be a strait-forward expulsion and that’s that. 
 

Time for one bathroom, multiple stalls and a come as you are approach to 1s, 2s and as necessary and politically correct, 3s.  

I would agree with expulsion.

[B-Man]