K-9 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Buftex said: I generally like Paul Hamilton...but I just have to ask, how would he know this? How would anyone know this, unless one of the owners was going around saying this. I am not going to defend the Pegulas handling of the two teams, they have made plenty of errors...but I think sometimes people read a lot into things, trying to make sense of things, and then run with them as fact. Unless the Bills were hemorrhaging money (like the Sabres most likely are) why would they regret giving so much power to Beane and McDermott? It’s all conjecture on Hamilton’s part, as is most of what he says. Listen carefully to his questions at the pressers and his conjecture comes flying through in the form of the questions he asked. In a courtroom it’s called a leading question, in a sports interview it’s called a predetermined point of view. There’s a reason why players can’t stand him. He’s just not an honest broker in their eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: I don't see why any mention of Skinner necessitates this crusade. Skinner has just as many positive +/- seasons as Eichel for whatever that's worth. If you’re looking for a Skinner crusade, a mirror would be a good start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, 4merper4mer said: If you’re looking for a Skinner crusade, a mirror would be a good start. Go find all my Skinner posts and count them. I would be shocked if I have 1/10th as many as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Go find all my Skinner posts and count them. I would be shocked if I have 1/10th as many as you. Then you’d be shocked. A high percentage of my Skinner posts are replies to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Id be a lot more excited about this if it were the 2022 or 2023 draft classes. This draft looks terrible. I’m not even sure there’s really even a defined #1 pick or even top 3 in this draft (so watch the Sabres win the #1 pick), but at least it increases the Sabres odds at winning #1 overall when they inevitably suck again in the future (especially if they trade Eichel). I am willing to bet the Sabres have a few more #1 pick years coming up. 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: Great to see. They need him back so very badly. Good timing too with Hutton hurt. The Sabres would’ve had to sign another goalie because of the new rules about having to have 3 goalies at all times this season. Why do they need him back? They need the #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: I don't see why any mention of Skinner necessitates this crusade. Skinner has just as many positive +/- seasons as Eichel for whatever that's worth. With the advent of more advanced analytic tools to measure a player’s productivity in the ice, +/- has become an archaic stat that nobody puts much stock into nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: With the advent of more advanced analytic tools to measure a player’s productivity in the ice, +/- has become an archaic stat that nobody puts much stock into nowadays. Agreed, but I’d be surprised if a single advanced analytic was any kinder to Skinner than +/-. They are all designed to dig deeper, and the deeper you dig with him, the uglier it gets. 7 minutes ago, TBBills said: I am willing to bet the Sabres have a few more #1 pick years coming up. Why do they need him back? They need the #1 pick. Where does Seattle figure in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: I am willing to bet the Sabres have a few more #1 pick years coming up. Why do they need him back? They need the #1 pick. The draft rules are changing to limit the number of #1 picks allowed to 2 times in a 5 year span. Thankfully it doesn’t kick in until next year though, because this year would be a horrible year to waste one of the 2 allowed #1 overall picks. This year the #1 pick is meaningless. It’s about the weakest draft I can remember. There’s not really even a defined #1 guy, or even top 3. There’s 1/2 a dozen+ guys that you could make an argument for and not be wrong. Owen Power (defenseman) is probably the most commonly listed player in the #1 spot but I don’t really think he’s anything special. The whole top of the draft is pretty much defenseman and none look like anything all that special. Next year and the year after the top of the draft looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Then you’d be shocked. A high percentage of my Skinner posts are replies to you. Start here. From page 36 to current you have at least 10:1 posts about Skinner. On page 41, I actually agreed with you that hes dogging it on defense and ineffective. In zero of my posts have I argued that Skinner is some savior who belongs on top line. Go back to page 33 and you'll most of my posts on the topic have been critical of Jeff. My participation in this thread mainly starts around page 25 when the season started. You don't know what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Owen Power (defenseman) is probably the most commonly listed player in the #1 spot but I don’t really think he’s anything special. The whole top of the draft is pretty much defenseman and none look like anything all that special. Not a generational talent like Dahlin? (end sarcasm) The guy who intrigues me is the forward from Michigan, Beniers. He may not be classic #1 pick talent, but "you get what you get, and you don't get upset" is what we say in our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Agreed, but I’d be surprised if a single advanced analytic was any kinder to Skinner than +/-. They are all designed to dig deeper, and the deeper you dig with him, the uglier it gets. That’s a fair point, but every player on the team with enough ice time to fairly analyze is screwing the pooch this season. There are several players who deserve to be scratched more than Skinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: That’s a fair point, but every player on the team with enough ice time to fairly analyze is screwing the pooch this season. There are several players who deserve to be scratched more than Skinner. Skinner is not the entire problem. Far from it. I’ve never claimed that. I’m sure there are other players with horrible metrics. Many of them are young. Few if any have careers as long and counterproductive as Skinner. Okposo may be one but you can see the effort in his game. Skinner’s effort needs improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/31-thoughts-nashville-move-ryan-ellis-instead-mattias-ekholm/ Quote 22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week. Hopefully it includes changes to the pro scouting staff this time! Outside of a handful of acquisitions our pro scouting has been atrocious. I was shocked no changes were made to the pro side when they fired 1/2 the scouting staff. Looks like Adams is still evaluating everything/everyone in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Tim Peel (the ref) was just fired by the NHL for this. problem isn’t what he said, it’s that he said it on a hot mic. every ref in the NHL calls makeup calls and the NHL knows it (and has even encouraged it). Edited March 24, 2021 by BillsFan4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: Tim Peel (the ref) was just fired by the NHL for this. problem isn’t what he said, it’s that he said it on a hot mic. every ref in the NHL calls makeup calls and the NHL knows it (and has even encouraged it). Every ref indeed. Firing a ref for doing what fans have witnessed forever won’t change a thing. The NHL is a joke in so many ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Excellent piece from Five Thirty Eight today. The author suggests the Sabres have been below league average since early 2013. Ever since, over a span of 632 games (or eight years, one month and 23 days), the Sabres have been solidly below average at best. Worst losing skid in N. American men's pro sports--all of them! LOL https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everything-that-could-go-wrong-for-the-buffalo-sabres-has-gone-wrong/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/bettman-nhl-salary-cap-will-remain-flat-near-flat-immediate-future/ Quote During a press conference Wednesday, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman was asked when the league's new media rights deal with ESPN would have an impact on the NHL's salary cap. In response, Bettman said the salary cap will likely remain stagnant as part of the four-year collective bargaining agreement extension with the NHLPA. "As part of that, the salary cap is basically going to be flat until we recover the overpayments through the escrow that we've built up both in the return to play from last season, which obviously had to be concluded under different circumstances, and this season we're obviously... there's a major escrow building up because of the fact that there's no attendance," Bettman said. sounds like the salary cap may stay flat for potentially the next (up to) 4 years, even with the new mega TV deal. Salary cap space is going to be The premium asset in the NHL the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Peel looks a lot older than 54 imo... https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/sports/2021/03/24/nhl-ref-s-career-over-after-he-s-heard-on-hot-mic-saying-he-wanted-to-give-predators-a-penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Excellent piece from Five Thirty Eight today. The author suggests the Sabres have been below league average since early 2013. Ever since, over a span of 632 games (or eight years, one month and 23 days), the Sabres have been solidly below average at best. Worst losing skid in N. American men's pro sports--all of them! LOL https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everything-that-could-go-wrong-for-the-buffalo-sabres-has-gone-wrong/ When you factor in playing in a league with 30 or more teams, I believe the last 10 years of Buffalo Sabres hockey has to be the worst, or very close to the worst, franchise in any North American major sport in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beast said: When you factor in playing in a league with 30 or more teams, I believe the last 10 years of Buffalo Sabres hockey has to be the worst, or very close to the worst, franchise in any North American major sport in history. Wonder if we can get a banner hung for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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