teef Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, brooklynbill said: I don't need you to respect what I choose to do. I could careless how you feel. We can agree to disagree you are very evolved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: That's what it will come down to won't it? Now players who stand will be viewed as silent and complicit (even if they support their teammates). That's actually not the point I was making at all. I would expect the players I named to kneel if kneeling is a "thing" because I think they have personal/family reasons to "get it". Dawson Knox, for example, has black younger brothers. I would actually expect players to prefer that their fellow players NOT kneel if they don't "feel it". Whether or not they're viewed as complicit, I would expect to be based on what else they say and do and not whether or not they make that gesture. 28 minutes ago, Beast said: I get what you are saying but I don't have to repect kneelers, and I won't respect kneelers but I also realize that it is their right to kneel. If that is the attitude (not "I don't choose to kneel" but "I don't respect kneelers") then I would believe that would be regarded as complicit and not supporting teammates. But I ain't in the locker room so I don't know. That's just my sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Beast said: I get what you are saying but I don't have to repect kneelers, and I won't respect kneelers but I also realize that it is their right to kneel. If that is the attitude (not "I don't choose to kneel" but "I don't respect kneelers") then I would believe that would be regarded as complicit and not supporting teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: That's what it will come down to won't it? Now players who stand will be viewed as silent and complicit (even if they support their teammates). 100%, unless you conform you will be labeled and canceled. Either follow the herd or there will be consequences. The ability to think for one's self is nonexistent anymore. Or, at the very least, you'll have to apologize out the ass and beg for forgiveness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Tesla03 said: and no one cares about people who think kneeling during the anthem is "disrespectful" because it isn't ... your opinions are invalid. I didn't say that I felt it was personally disrespectful. I said that some people do. If you wanted to start a conversation like Kaep originally claimed it probably doesn't make sense to start that way. Obviously it's too deep for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Needle said: I didn't say that I felt it was personally disrespectful. I said that some people do. If you wanted to start a conversation like Kaep originally claimed it probably doesn't make sense to start that way. Obviously it's too deep for you. Almost 90% of these types aren't even remotely interested in conversation. They use buzzwords/phrases, with absolutely zero potential discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, brooklynbill said: The arrogance. Sorry you don't get to decide how I protest. I will do so how I see fit not to your approval or opinion. I don't tell you how to manage your apathy Whoa, Son, slow down and read what I actually wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Woah, don't hold back, Tell us how you Really Feel! Whatever one's opinion of PPP may be, the point is: "Scott's House, Scott's Rules" If Scott feels the discussion spurred by Brees and Fromm's comments is appropriate in TSW at this time, that's how it's gonna be. Provided it stays civil and more or less topical. https://twitter.com/scarecrowbar/status/1270030842241392641/photo/1 The feedback from Coach Tuesday is fascinating, especially in light of the subject matter being discussed. I don't look to the NFL or pro sports in general for any great life lessons. I think as a rule, professional and elite athletes live substantially different lives than the average fan. They often show incredible commitment to the mundane. They are driven. They are used to having their @$$es kissed over an extended period of time, and that's not a bad thing necessarily, it just is. There certainly can be an entitlement mentality if its allowed to grow. The issue with Jake Fromm for me is that while young when he sent the message, he was old enough to know he wanted to play in the NFL. Regardless of what is in his heart, there wasn't much going on in his head. Compare that with the controversy over a 14 or 15 years old JA tweet, imo they are not even in the same stratosphere. The outcome of the Fromm controversy will be determined one way or the other. I'm a believer in second chances, in acknowledging I have no idea knew one way or the other "who" he really is. Seems like LoRax has opined from the football side of things, thats good enough for me, so time to move on for me. As for the comments made by Coach T, it's fascinating to me that he would launch into a tirade of angry and hateful language to paint posters on PPP as, well, hateful and angry. Interestingly, painting folks with a broad brush, without consideration as to their character or life experiences is directly out of the playbook of hate groups everywhere. Personally, I'll keep a good thought for him and not judge him so harshly. Edited June 9, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whoa, Son, slow down and read what I actually wrote. do you think that poster is actually being genuine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbill Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whoa, Son, slow down and read what I actually wrote. 19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whoa, Son, slow down and read what I actually wrote. I did and responded in kind. If it was not the response you desired then please ignore, as I will you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, brooklynbill said: I did and responded in kind. If it was not the response you desired then please ignore, as I will you I think his ignore button is bigger than yours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, brooklynbill said: Makes me question the "process". Do the Bills do thorough back ground checks including social media? This was not the first issue with QB text messages. They might have trouble checking cell phone texts between ex girlfriends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, brooklynbill said: I did and responded in kind. If it was not the response you desired then please ignore, as I will you Then, and I say this in the kindest possible way: you might wish to investigate ways to improve your reading comprehension. It may possibly make you experience your life as less hostile and confrontational Or not. I don't have a desire for any particular response except one indicating some effort in actually reading and comprehending what I wrote. 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They might have trouble checking cell phone texts between ex girlfriends. Has the source been established as an actual ex girlfriend, or is that just the assumption? It seemed like a text between two bro-types But yes, social media investigations by teams can not include SMS or private emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Has the source been established as an actual ex girlfriend, or is that just the assumption? It seemed like a text between two bro-types But yes, social media investigations by teams can not include SMS or private emails. "Silly Billy" is bro style?? Edited June 9, 2020 by LB3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: "Silly Billy" is bro style?? A point, but my question still remains. Has the source been established as an actual ex girlfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: A point, but my question still remains. Has the source been established as an actual ex girlfriend Haven't seen anything one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Has the source been established as an actual ex girlfriend, or is that just the assumption? It seemed like a text between two bro-types But yes, social media investigations by teams can not include SMS or private emails. I could care less to be honest but the point was like you said it's impossible to investigate private cell phone messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 "Respecting the flag" continues to be an empty talking point which was invented and used to avoid uncomfortable discussion for the actual reasons of Kaepernick's protest. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: "Respecting the flag" continues to be an empty talking point which was invented and used to avoid uncomfortable discussion for the actual reasons of Kaepernick's protest. Yup, its empty to people who hold it as a symbol with deep meaning. But if we say it stands for racial injustice that absolutely must be acknowledged. No double standard. Edited June 9, 2020 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Beast said: I get what you are saying but I don't have to repect kneelers, and I won't respect kneelers but I also realize that it is their right to kneel. Are you this outspoken against people celebrating the confederate flag? 35 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: "Respecting the flag" continues to be an empty talking point which was invented and used to avoid uncomfortable discussion for the actual reasons of Kaepernick's protest. The right will never run out of excuses for why we should ignore and invalidate calls for injustice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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