4_kidd_4 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Putin said: I can’t speak for everyone but ( when it comes to Bills ) I care what Jim thinks he’s a freakin legend in my book I think he still wears his letterman jacket around town and will gladly tell you about his four touchdowns in the city championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 When I watched the video of him saying this, that line from the Wedding Singer kept playing through my head. "Now get my Van Halen T-Shirt off before you jinx the band!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It's year 4 for this regime. If they aren't a Super Bowl contender by now when do you expect them to be? The years don't mean much if you don't have the initial cap space to sign anyone decent at the start. The Bills needed to draft their QB, build the line, retool the defense. The 90's Bills started to be build in 1986 and gradually got better as they added better players. Even though they already had Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly and Andre Reed. Along with trading the Colts, Rams for Biscuit. 4-12 in 86, to 7-8 in 87. The Bills really took off when they added RB Thurman Thomas in the draft in 1988, went 12-4. Still, only went 9-7 in 1989 and that roster was loaded with 4 HoFers. It wasn't until their 5th season that the Bills went to the SB with all those stars. Currently the Bills don't have a Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, and their 2019 defense was a top five unit because of a great secondary. They need a better pass rush. The Bills don't have any pro bowlers on the line, at RB, at WR, at QB just yet. They don't have a Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed. Nor a Kent Hill, Jim Ritcher, Will Wolford. After this season I would expect to see changes for the offensive line, pass rush and probably a new offensive coordinator. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you comparing the way a Bills team was built almost 35 years go to now? It’s not 1986 anymore... it doesn’t take 4 years to rebuild a team. There are numerous examples of teams going from worst to Super Bowl contender within 1-2 years..... The Bills added a pro bowler in Diggs and who was the Chiefs RB last season? They should be a legitimate super bowl contender this year. Anything less is a disappointment. I don't see it that way simply because the Bills didn't draft a Patrick Mahomes and they don't have anyone anywhere near as good Andy Reid setting up the offense, calling plays. The man is an offensive genius AND he has previously built a superbowl team. The Bills don't have a WR like Tyreek Hill or a TE like Travis Kelce. John Harbaugh, been there, done that. This will be Bill O'Brian's seventh season as an NFL HC of the Texans. Josh Allen was a known project that was supposed to sit for a season or partial season and instead was thrown into the fire because the guy they thought was good enough to start the season at QB wasn't even good enough to be a an NFL backup QB. I love Josh Allen, but he is not nearly as developed as he should be going into his third season. The main reason in my view is that the Bills OC thought Nathan Peterman was good enough...that guy didn't see that Frank Gore was failing after the half way point in 2018. He also underutilized a very good RB for most of the 2019 for some unknown reason. Meanwhile putting that young, inexperienced QB under the gun far, far too many times. That 2017 Bills O line lost a pro bowl LG and a pro bowl center and because of cap issues replaced them with bums for 2018. Allen running for his life a lot that year. So, the OC starts calling run plays to take advantage of the QB's running ability. That same season, fading RB's, no real receiving corps, bad line. 2019, mostly new O line save for the LT who is average, upgrade at C, rookie at RT and two journeymen at guards. Upgrades at receivers and RB's. That offense was ranked 23rd in points, 24th in yards. So, what was the problem and why wasn't this offense blowing up those bad teams instead of squeaking by them? Considering the quality of talent the 2019 offense faced they should have been much, much better. The offensive line was simply not good enough, 43 QB scrambles which puts Allen at 4th in the NFL. 12th in QB hits and if Allen wasn't so elusive it would have been far more for a non running QB. 5th in the NFL with being blitzed 201 times. Combine this with the number of drops by the receivers. The Bills line not good enough in the red zone to move the ball on the ground. There should have been more Buffalo Bills games like the Cowboys, Broncos, Dolphins. You go back and look at the stats and nearly every time the Bills offense ran the ball well all season. Along with running more than throwing, they usually won and that young, inexperienced QB had a good productive game. Bottom line: I see holes in this 2020 roster. Dire need of a superstar pass rusher and that 90's Bills SB team had two with Smith and Bennett. I'm not sold on the current left side of the Bills O line even being close to what those 90 Bills had in three pro bowlers and an all pro. Not to mention that the right side at G, T are even questionable to be starters. Lastly, i'm not convinced that Brian Daboll is the coordinator that can take this offense to a top 15 unit. I think he has more to prove than Allen. This FO and HC are learning as they go and are doing great job so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 12:00 PM, Royale with Cheese said: He’s right. Let's focus on actually beating the Patriots, at least once, before we set our sights on the division. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 51 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Let's focus on actually beating the Patriots, at least once, before we set our sights on the division. You double dip the chip don’t you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: You double dip the chip don’t you? Pees in the punchbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Pees in the punchbowl. Dude....you know that's you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Dude....you know that's you. D= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 12:32 PM, Gugny said: Anyone who doesn't think this is a Super Bowl caliber team isn't paying attention. And you can feel free to enjoy all the moral victories you want. I'm personally sick of them. We are into year 4 of the Process. Time to show me the mother ***** baby. Players don't get rings for winning the division and one playoff game. They shouldn't be happy with that and nether should fans. Win the ***** Super Bowl. Period. Playoff Caliber ! My opinion is different than most i bet . I want to be in the playoffs for the next 5 years. Bills did it before. Made it to the Big Game 4 times This time will be the charm though. : ) Gotta be in It to Win It Lets Go Buffalo ! 21 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Our receivers group as a whole has been lacking for two consecutive seasons, our QB play is slowly getting better, ( a bit to slow to my liking but I get impatient in my old age) and PM is stunningly good at this point in his short career, it will be be a season of comparisons of past and present performances amongst all the contending teams, sure hope Josh and the ball catchers sync up quickly... it will make all the difference imo. I feel it is that simple. if the pass game raises it's level two notches ( i believe it will btw) The whole team is raised a bar. and good things start happening all over the field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 12 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: yeah, like 3/5 of the O line goes on IR in September... that's what I call "something's wrong".. that'd do it yeah I get that its a fan board with lots of season ticket holders, but with that schedule and last year being an injury free fluke occurance, people are way out over their skis at this point Nice analogy PT ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 12 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: yeah, like 3/5 of the O line goes on IR in September... that's what I call "something's wrong".. that'd do it yeah I get that its a fan board with lots of season ticket holders, but with that schedule and last year being an injury free fluke occurance, people are way out over their skis at this point Nice analogy PT ! it is not a now or never choice btw. ! Let's enjoy the ride up the roller coaster for once : D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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