Orlando Buffalo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, DrW said: What you have linked there is a commentary on some biased site; it is not a scientific study. The guy has his own agenda (look him up on Wikipedia) and cherry-picks scientific papers that show the lack of protection by masks. The cited papers themselves are legit (peer-reviewed and published in a scientific journal). However, there are significantly more papers that come to the opposite conclusion. To judge for yourself, go to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ and do your own search. PubMed indexes all scientific peer-reviewed journals in the medical and life sciences. As you have stated the papers are legit and come to a completely different conclusion of a science that has "been decided". Mask are to protect everyone not wearing the mask and many people defeat the purpose of masks by touching them after touching dirty surfaces. I do wear a mask but it is not nearly as important as social distancing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: As you have stated the papers are legit and come to a completely different conclusion of a science that has "been decided". Mask are to protect everyone not wearing the mask and many people defeat the purpose of masks by touching them after touching dirty surfaces. I do wear a mask but it is not nearly as important as social distancing. Nobody can prevent you from listening just to voices confirming your point of view. Edited July 4, 2020 by DrW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 3:11 PM, B-Man said: REDSTATE‼️‼️???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, DrW said: Nobody can prevent you from listening just to voices confirming your point of view. The facts speak for the themselves. It's in the data. It's no accident that deaths are down even though cases are up. Doctors don't listen to trolls on message boards or MSM. Doctors prescribe medicine that will help their patients and they adjust their strategy as they learn. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, realtruelove said: The facts speak for the themselves. It's in the data. It's no accident that deaths are down even though cases are up. Doctors don't listen to trolls on message boards or MSM. Doctors prescribe medicine that will help their patients and they adjust their strategy as they learn. Thank goodness. You missed the point. I responded to a post discussing masks. Do you really think that there are many doctors who tell their patients that masks are useless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, DrW said: Nobody can prevent you from listening just to voices confirming your point of view. You stated it is legitimate studies and simply stated the guy has a bias, which from what I read is not conservative but liberal. I am not stating it is the be all end all but these must be considered when the newer studies are not double blind or peer reviewed fully. In medicine I follow science but even full doctors can disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrW said: You missed the point. I responded to a post discussing masks. Do you really think that there are many doctors who tell their patients that masks are useless? Do you think we should should mandate masks moving forward to prevent catching and spreading the flu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, realtruelove said: Do you think we should should mandate masks moving forward to prevent catching and spreading the flu? As long as a vaccine is available, I do not think it is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxyb6K5bTqAhV5lnIEHX6ADBgQFjADegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhub.jhu.edu%2F2016%2F05%2F03%2Fmedical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death%2F&usg=AOvVaw0LY1UUeahy0d877tLaKsFn Roughly 250,000 people die from medical malpractice annually... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TH3 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Good Lord....do you Trump taint lickers ever google the guys you quote? This dudes employer had to pay a $12 million fine for his fraudulent practices.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Reality Check said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxyb6K5bTqAhV5lnIEHX6ADBgQFjADegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhub.jhu.edu%2F2016%2F05%2F03%2Fmedical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death%2F&usg=AOvVaw0LY1UUeahy0d877tLaKsFn Roughly 250,000 people die from medical malpractice annually... Yikes! I’m wearing a MASK next time I go anywhere near a doctor! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, TH3 said: Good Lord....do you Trump taint lickers ever google the guys you quote? This dudes employer had to pay a $12 million fine for his fraudulent practices.... His employer. LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, TH3 said: Good Lord....do you Trump taint lickers ever google the guys you quote? This dudes employer had to pay a $12 million fine for his fraudulent practices.... He was so popular of a surgeon that he could not keep up with demand so his hospital set up a unit where he was doing 4 surgeries at once where he was bouncing from one to the next. He was not sued for poor results but people paid the hospital a premium for him and got a different doctor because he is exceptional. Dude is currently the head of surgery at one of the top 100 hospitals in the USA but please tell me about how unqualified he is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: He was so popular of a surgeon that he could not keep up with demand so his hospital set up a unit where he was doing 4 surgeries at once where he was bouncing from one to the next. He was not sued for poor results but people paid the hospital a premium for him and got a different doctor because he is exceptional. Dude is currently the head of surgery at one of the top 100 hospitals in the USA but please tell me about how unqualified he is Oh, the hypocrisy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: He was so popular of a surgeon that he could not keep up with demand so his hospital set up a unit where he was doing 4 surgeries at once where he was bouncing from one to the next. He was not sued for poor results but people paid the hospital a premium for him and got a different doctor because he is exceptional. Dude is currently the head of surgery at one of the top 100 hospitals in the USA but please tell me about how unqualified he is He was sued for fraud....and lost...because he LIED to his patients. So a Fox News Prostrate surgeon is an expert on pandemics? He literally just tweeted “POTUS has done everything right in response to the pandemic” Please tell me how qualified this tweet is...... Edited July 6, 2020 by TH3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TH3 said: He was sued for fraud....and lost...because he LIED to his patients. So a Fox News Prostrate surgeon is an expert on pandemics? He literally just tweeted “POTUS has done everything right in response to the pandemic” Please tell me how qualified this tweet is...... He is the head of surgery at Lenox Hill- to state he is a Fox News talking head is like saying Obama is some basketball fan- it is either done to be humorous, as ESPN did it, or astoundingly stupid. I do disagree that Trump has done everything right since he clearly should have stopped Cuomo from putting the sick back in with the most likely to die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 7:56 PM, Reality Check said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxyb6K5bTqAhV5lnIEHX6ADBgQFjADegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhub.jhu.edu%2F2016%2F05%2F03%2Fmedical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death%2F&usg=AOvVaw0LY1UUeahy0d877tLaKsFn Roughly 250,000 people die from medical malpractice annually... Shut the country down NOW! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: He is the head of surgery at Lenox Hill- to state he is a Fox News talking head is like saying Obama is some basketball fan- it is either done to be humorous, as ESPN did it, or astoundingly stupid. I do disagree that Trump has done everything right since he clearly should have stopped Cuomo from putting the sick back in with the most likely to die. You may want to update your information. Samadi is now at St. Francis on Long Island. https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/embattled-surgeon-dr-david-samadi-has-a-new-gig-on-long-island/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 55 minutes ago, B-Man said: HARSH, BUT FAIR: Democrats and Media to Blame for Countless COVID-19 Deaths After Anti-Hydroxychloroquine Hysteria. Yeah...well...HCQ will kill you deader than COVID. So there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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