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6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I’ll let the market set itself there. In my mind he’s just a rich man’s Shaq. Time will tell. Certainly not what Clowney expected. He got so hyped in college he lost sight of reality. I’m in for a fair deal. 

The fact that Shaq Lawson got signed before him is hilarious. He completely way overvalued himself and now he’s paying the price for that. Take what is offered to you and don’t B word or complain

13 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Don’t like this guys attitude and even on a 1 year deal I’m hesitant 

I think he’s gonna have to humble himself by taking  a 1-2 year vet minimum deal, he thought he was hot ***** and overvalued himself only for it to fall back on his face. Miami reportedly offered him 16 to 20,000,000,000 a year he wanted 25 to 30 a year, Miami told him good luck lol. 

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I'm still one of those who would like to add him. I think he'd be very, very good in our D. 

Why is Star a villain in every friggin thread?  Is the virus his fault too?   The guy does what he is supposed to do and is good in the room.  Geez.

15 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

 

I think he’s gonna have to humble himself by taking  a 1-2 year vet minimum deal, he thought he was hot ***** and overvalued himself only for it to fall back on his face. Miami reportedly offered him 16 to 20,000,000,000 a year he wanted 25 to 30 a year, Miami told him good luck lol. 

 

Vet minimum? No way. He will take a below his market value deal.... but he wouldn't play for vet minimum.

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Vet minimum? No way. He will take a below his market value deal.... but he wouldn't play for vet minimum.

At this point he might not have a choice. It seems like his market is dying down every day. I’m sure he probably wishes he would’ve shut up and taken what Miami offered him. Cause the other teams

offers from what I’ve heard haven’t been able to match up to Miami’s first offer. Again he overvalued himself and now he’s starting to see the harsh reality of doing that

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There are many people on here that no way more than I’ll ever know about how all of this works but I’d be shocked if the Bills haven’t offered Clowney some pretty sizable money and then would cut Trent Murphy. What’s the downside? What’s the $ delta? Don’t they still have plenty of cap space? Seems like a no brainer and the Bills (a contender) would seem to be the ideal fit.

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10 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

At this point he might not have a choice. It seems like his market is dying down every day. I’m sure he probably wishes he would’ve shut up and taken what Miami offered him. Cause the other teams

offers from what I’ve heard haven’t been able to match up to Miami’s first offer. Again he overvalued himself and now he’s starting to see the harsh reality of doing that

Vet minimum dude? WTF?

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2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Vet minimum dude? WTF?

Call me crazy but it seems that’s the direction he’s heading plus on top of the fact that he got his bell rung last year in the playoffs and has a injury history. If I’m Buffalo I’m not offering him anymore than a 2 year 13 million deal

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Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Call me crazy but it seems that’s the direction he’s heading plus on top of the fact that he got his bell rung last year in the playoffs and has a injury history. If I’m Buffalo I’m not offering him anymore than a 2 year 13 million deal

You wouldn’t offer him more than Trent Murphy’s contract?

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4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You wouldn’t offer him more than Trent Murphy’s contract?

No I wouldn’t. To me Clowney has an on and off switch. While he a good player he had the Benifits of playing on some real talented Houston Defenses. He was ok with Seattle but notice how Seattle is not chasing him to bring him back, I remember when this guy was being deemed a draft bust after 2 years into the NFL. At the end of it he just strikes me as the type of Player that after you pay him what he wants he’ll most likely not show up and will regress. 

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Would love to see a 1 year prove it deal around $16 million. The DE room would be solid.

 

DE - Jerry Hughes - Mario Addison

DT - Ed Oliver - Harrison Philips - Quinton Jefferson

DT - Star L. - Vernon Butler

DE - Jadeveon Clowney - Trent Murphy

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18 minutes ago, wppete said:

Would love to see a 1 year prove it deal around $16 million. The DE room would be solid.

 

DE - Jerry Hughes - Mario Addison

DT - Ed Oliver - Harrison Philips - Quinton Jefferson

DT - Star L. - Vernon Butler

DE - Jadeveon Clowney - Trent Murphy

2 years, that would be stupid to sign him for 1 year 16 million, especially if he goes right back into free agency the next year in 21. Might as well keep Murphy, plus we have some upcoming free agents that need contract extensions, the biggest one is White

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26 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

2 years, that would be stupid to sign him for 1 year 16 million, especially if he goes right back into free agency the next year in 21. Might as well keep Murphy, plus we have some upcoming free agents that need contract extensions, the biggest one is White

Stupid?  To add one of the better DEs in the league on a one year deal that won’t affect our salary cap going forward......
 

might as well keep a Murphy, a player that isn’t nearly as good......
 

you say it’s dumb to sign a one year contract....then allude to the fact that we have upcoming free agents to sign.....

 

 

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

At this point he might not have a choice. It seems like his market is dying down every day. I’m sure he probably wishes he would’ve shut up and taken what Miami offered him. Cause the other teams

offers from what I’ve heard haven’t been able to match up to Miami’s first offer. Again he overvalued himself and now he’s starting to see the harsh reality of doing that

 

There is still a loooooong way from there and vet minimum. I agree he will end up taking less than Miami offered. But vet minimum for Clowney (player between 1 and 7 years) is $675,000 a year. If you think that is the best offer he is getting you are mad. 

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25 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Stupid?  To add one of the better DEs in the league on a one year deal that won’t affect our salary cap going forward......
 

might as well keep a Murphy, a player that isn’t nearly as good......
 

you say it’s dumb to sign a one year contract....then allude to the fact that we have upcoming free agents to sign.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Completely agree. Some people don't get the fact that McBeane is going all in this year for the Super Bowl. This is the opportunity.

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30 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Stupid?  To add one of the better DEs in the league on a one year deal that won’t affect our salary cap going forward......
 

might as well keep a Murphy, a player that isn’t nearly as good......
 

you say it’s dumb to sign a one year contract....then allude to the fact that we have upcoming free agents to sign.....

 

 

 

 

 

We do and I’d rather not waste 16 million on a 1 year rental

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12 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

We do and I’d rather not waste 16 million on a 1 year rental

Mr Pegula? Is that you? Hows it a waste if you have no other 2020 free agents in the wings? You can’t rollover cap space year to year.

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3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Mr Pegula? Is that you? Hows it a waste if you have no other 2020 free agents in the wings? You can’t rollover cap space year to year.

 

Err, yes you can. I mean it wouldn't stop me trying to sign Clowney on a 1 year deal because I really do not like our edge situation as it stands. But you can roll unused cap over. 

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6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Mr Pegula? Is that you? Hows it a waste if you have no other 2020 free agents in the wings? You can’t rollover cap space year to year.

I think you are able to do this

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18 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

We do and I’d rather not waste 16 million on a 1 year rental


So you’d rather spend 16 mill on a multi year deal and make it impossible to resign our own free agents next year?

 

The guys we might be looking to extend are Tre, Dawkins and milano.  Say we spend that 16 mill a year on them.....how much better does that make us in 2020?  It doesn’t.

 

Adding a player on a 1 year deal makes the team better for 2020 AND still allows us to resign everyone we want going forward. 
 

signing a different player on a 2 year 16 mill a year contract makes it so we won’t be able to sign all of the guys we want.  
 

it’s really not rocket science. 
 

Bills with Clowney >>>>>>> Bills without Clowney.  
 

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

it doesn’t matter much cause Clowney is talking with Cleveland and they are apparently offering him a really good deal. I’m not a Clowney fan I think we could find better in the draft


 

just wondering who you think will be better?

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