egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: My question? Why did he even catch the ball to begin with? Players just move away a lot of times now and let it bounce in the end zone. Seems there is no good reason to even touch the ball as a returner if you are not planning to bring it out. To practice catching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: wow, what part of that did you need to edit? lol Whatever Mr. WEO, I'm pissed off today. Usually the next day I'm over it, just so tired of the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s not new at all. It is new. Never happened in the 80's or 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Real McNasty said: Whatever Mr. WEO, I'm pissed off today. Usually the next day I'm over it, just so tired of the BS. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: I thought all scoring plays were reviewed no?? This was not a scoring play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) The rule wording is clear. You must put your knee on the ground or lay down AND show no further intent of advancing the ball to give yourself up. Throwing the ball to the ref doesn’t satisfy the rule requirements. Anyone remember when Tre has the pick at the end of the cincy game? He gave himself up, and one of the determining factors in that was that we went to the ground. You can’t just stand there and say “safe”. The rule is the rule. The mysterious “backup refs” frantically running onto the field pissed me off then, and piss me off even more now. John Parry with his “cooler heads prevailing” and “common sense” statements are crazy. Almost as irritating as the 5 quarters of JJ Watt ballwashing we had to endure. Edited January 5, 2020 by Sig1Hunter 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, egd said: This was not a scoring play. Had to challenge to overturn. Not sure if even reviewable by coaches though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Say a punt returner catches a ball at the 10 yard line and shows no signal of a fair catch yet catches the ball and just stands there without being tackled. 2 seconds later he turns and tosses the ball to the ref and the ball hits the ground, is that a live ball? or did he intend to give up the ball? It's a damn live ball and the same as what happened yesterday. Bills got screwed once again and it directly affected the outcome of the game, it's really getting old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: As i said in the other thread. 100% chance that every NFL ST coach is showing this to his team, telling his returner to ALWAYS TAKE A EFFIN KNEE!!! Texans lucked out and avoided the TD, or safety. At the time, I said McD should've blown up, that Bellichek would have done so. Mistake by McD in my book. Yep, mistake by a young coach not knowing the rules. Edited January 5, 2020 by egd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, egd said: It is new. Never happened in the 80's or 90's. Returners routinely took a knee in the EZ to give selves up. It’s not really new 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, egd said: This was not a scoring play. It was ruled one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It was ruled one No, it was ruled he gave himself up after a conference. Only if the officials rule a score on the field is there a review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: John Parry with his “cooler heads prevailing” and “common sense” statements are crazy. Almost as irritating as the 5 quarters of JJ Watt ballwashing we had to endure. that was bizarre. They kept repeating it like students reading off of a chalkboard in some dystopian classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, egd said: No, it was ruled he gave himself up after a conference. Only if the officials rule a score on the field is there a review. It was signaled as a TD. It was subsequently overturned. It may not have been a booth review but many refs were conferencing on the field and they overturned the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, egd said: No, it was ruled he gave himself up after a conference. Only if the officials rule a score on the field is there a review. It was live and ruled a TD. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It was signaled as a TD. It was subsequently overturned. It may not have been a booth review but many refs were conferencing on the field and they overturned the call. Yes, the officials are allowed to do that. But a review is only done after they indicate a score as their official decision.. Just now, Real McNasty said: It was live and ruled a TD. What are you talking about? The officials are allowed to change their minds after a conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, egd said: Yes, the officials are allowed to do that. But a review is only done after they indicate a score as their official decision.. The officials are allowed to change their minds after a conference. They’re allowed to pick up the flag, but the R made the initial call correctly. He was overruled after pleading by the sideline committee to not do that to the home Texans in a playoff game. Total crap ruling for the sake of allowing the home team to save face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, egd said: Yes, the officials are allowed to do that. But a review is only done after they indicate a score as their official decision.. The officials are allowed to change their minds after a conference. I could be wrong but I have only seen ruled TD's overturned by the review booth? Some side squabble conference and "intent" crap is the first I've seen to remove what was ruled a TD by the Head Ref. There were no flags on the field for the refs to discuss. Edited January 5, 2020 by Real McNasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, egd said: This was not a scoring play. Bills scored a touchdown. The ruling on the field initially was a touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: "This doesn't FEEL right, so let's just call it a touchback." Feelings are not facts. And of course later in the same game, common sense went straight out the window when it came to deciding to flag Ford for a “crackback” block in a critical situation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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