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Josh Hamilton (MLB) Faces Felony After Allegedly Assaulting 14-Year-Old Daughter


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"... She fell to the floor, from which he lifted her, threw her over his shoulder and carried her to her bedroom.

 

The girl said at this point she was telling Hamilton, "I'm sorry.'' Upon reaching her bedroom door, he tossed the teen onto her bed, pressed her face onto the mattress and began hitting her legs with an open hand and closed fist.

 

She said that after he finished striking her, he told her, "I hope you go in front of the f---ing judge and tell him what a terrible dad I am so I don't have to see you anymore and you don't have to come to my house again.''

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27968802/ex-ranger-josh-hamilton-faces-felony-charge-injury-child

 

 

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15 minutes ago, thebug said:

What an asshat! 

 

It certainly looks that way. I’m not absolving him of anything, but it’s FAR more complicated than that. It’s just sad from every angle you can possibly look at it. 

 

I’ll just leave it at that and let others thrash it about. 

 

4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

He hates himself. 

 

I think he hates the demons within himself. That’s different. 

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1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

It certainly looks that way. I’m not absolving him of anything, but it’s FAR more complicated than that. It’s just sad from every angle you can possibly look at it. 

 

I’ll just leave it at that and let others thrash it about. 

 

 

I think he hates the demons within himself. That’s different. 

Don’t care how complicated it is. You treat your child like that, you are an asshat. 

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2 minutes ago, thebug said:

Don’t care how complicated it is. You treat your child like that, you are an asshat. 

Of course. That is 100% correct. 

 

Did you ever stop to wonder how it got that awful? It’s NOT an excuse, but there may be an explanation. 

 

It can be VERY complicated. That doesn’t make it right by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve seen some crazy stuff, and I get how convoluted life can become. Trust me there. 

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2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

Mental illness left untreated and drug abuse at the core. 

 

One often leads to the other. It’s sad, and often people who have not been exposed in any way fail to comprehend the reality and frequency of this problem. 

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12 minutes ago, Augie said:

Of course. That is 100% correct. 

 

Did you ever stop to wonder how it got that awful? It’s NOT an excuse, but there may be an explanation. 

 

It can be VERY complicated. That doesn’t make it right by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve seen some crazy stuff, and I get how convoluted life can become. Trust me there. 

Do you just reply to people to agree and disagree to make yourself heard?  

 

Yeah, we have all seen and been through a lot of *****. He’s an asshat regardless. 

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5 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

One often leads to the other. It’s sad, and often people who have not been exposed in any way fail to comprehend the reality and frequency of this problem. 

A lot of people don't understand that his mental illness and drug addiction is a lifelong battle that will always plague him. Some people who have this mental health problem are fortunate to get the necessary help and be able to live a reasonable life. There are people who have had medical help but still are overwhelmed with this everlasting disease. It's a complicated problem that for those unfortunate to have this problem are never fully relieved of the problem. 

7 minutes ago, thebug said:

Do you just reply to people to agree and disagree to make yourself heard?  

 

Yeah, we have all seen and been through a lot of *****. He’s an asshat regardless. 

If you had a family member who had this problem maybe you would have more empathy and compassion for those who suffer from this tormenting illness. 

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2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

A lot of people don't understand that his mental illness and drug addiction is a lifelong battle that will always plague him. Some people who have this mental health problem are fortunate to get the necessary help and be able to live a reasonable life. There are people who have had medical help but still are overwhelmed with this everlasting disease. It's a complicated problem that for those unfortunate to have this problem are never fully relieved of the problem. 

If you had a family member who had this problem maybe you would have more empathy and compassion for those who suffer from this tormenting illness. 

Really? You know me? You know my experiences? He’s an asshat regardless of circumstances. Period! 

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2 minutes ago, thebug said:

 Do you just reply to people to agree and disagree to make yourself heard?  

 

Yeah, we have all seen and been through a lot of *****. He’s an asshat regardless. 

 

Umm, what does this even mean? 

 

Yes, I reply to make a point where I feel it’s valid. Do you not do the same thing? 

 

Maybe you should talk less and listen more. What he did (as I understand it) is absolutely horrific. MY point was you might want to try to look into the WHY.  The WHY does not excuse anything, and he needs to face the piper on this......but I try to understand the WHY.  

 

Unfortunately, I have WAY more knowledge about addiction and related behavior than I ever wanted to have. I just like to put EVERYTHING in it’s proper perspective. You still pay your dues for wrongdoings, but see it in a full and open way. 

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4 minutes ago, thebug said:

Really? You know me? You know my experiences? He’s an asshat regardless of circumstances. Period! 

 

All I really know about you is your wife has huge boobs. That’s as classy as it gets. You lose any sense of credibility you might have earned after that. Your opinion beyond that moment is meaningless, and your views on mental health and addiction are beyond worthless. 

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Just now, Augie said:

 

All I really know about you is your wife has huge boobs. That’s as classy as it gets. You lose any sense of credibility you might have earned after that. Your opinion beyond that moment is meaningless, and your views on mental health and addiction are beyond worthless. 

Take a hike. That was a joke! Move along you are a waste of time. 

I wonder if all you bleeding hearts would feel the same if this guy worked at the 7-11? Maybe then you would have more concern for the young lady? Oh, wait, he’s a “hero.”

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Just now, thebug said:

Take a hike. That was a joke! Move along you are a waste of time. 

I’m right here. I don’t waste a lot of time on pointless nonsense, but if you think I’m going anywhere because of you and your nonsense......

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11 minutes ago, thebug said:

Take a hike. That was a joke! Move along you are a waste of time. 

I wonder if all you bleeding hearts would feel the same if this guy worked at the 7-11? Maybe then you would have more concern for the young lady? Oh, wait, he’s a “hero.”

 

You are embarrassing yourself. I don’t care if he’s the NFL MVP or janitor at the local middle school. It’s about mental health and addiction. Feel free to rant to your heart’s content now. 

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Just now, Augie said:

 

You are embarrassing yourself. I don’t care if he’s the NFL MVP or janitor at the local middle school. It’s about mental health and addiction. Feel free to rant to your heart’s content now. 

Really? You forget, it’s also about that young girl. Feel free to continue to make excuses for him. 

 

You seem to think you are the only one with experience in the area. Wrong! 

23 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Umm, what does this even mean? 

 

Yes, I reply to make a point where I feel it’s valid. Do you not do the same thing? 

 

Maybe you should talk less and listen more. What he did (as I understand it) is absolutely horrific. MY point was you might want to try to look into the WHY.  The WHY does not excuse anything, and he needs to face the piper on this......but I try to understand the WHY.  

 

Unfortunately, I have WAY more knowledge about addiction and related behavior than I ever wanted to have. I just like to put EVERYTHING in it’s proper perspective. You still pay your dues for wrongdoings, but see it in a full and open way. 

Absolute arrogance and ignorance in this post. 

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7 minutes ago, thebug said:

Really? You forget, it’s also about that young girl. Feel free to continue to make excuses for him. 

 

You seem to think you are the only one with experience in the area. Wrong! 

Absolute arrogance and ignorance in this post. 

 

Please expound....you amuse me. 

 

I have said there is NO excuse and it’s horrific behavior. I just tried to look at the other side of the equation. What else is involved here? Oh, are we too shallow to consider that? It doesn’t make it right, but what is the full picture? 

 

So please ramble all night on this. 

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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Please expound....you amuse me. 

 

I have said there is NO excuse and it’s horrific behavior. I just tried to look at the other side of the equation. What else is involved here? Oh, are we too shallow to consider that? It doesn’t make it right, but what is the full picture? 

 

So please ramble all night on this. 

You are right! He’s the victim. I shall shed a tear for him....

You have so much experience, beyond anyone else’s comprehension. That kid probably deserved it anyway! 

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5 hours ago, JohnC said:

 

If you had a family member who had this problem maybe you would have more empathy and compassion for those who suffer from this tormenting illness. 

I have even more compassion for family members of mentally ill addicts.

 

I know a married couple for more than 50 years. We grew up together. I cannot say enough good things about these two. They are loving, caring, kind, brilliant, spiritual, very successful, wonderful people. They don't even drink, let alone anything else. Their daughter is a heroin addict. She has been clean for 5 years but I saw the toll that it took on these fantastic people. At one point it looked like a matter of time before their daughter (who I love and held as a newborn baby) would OD and die. Everyone is doing GREAT now, but I still sense an uneasiness from the parents. It is just so sad.

 

What Hamilton did to his daughter is inexcusable. He needs to go to jail, hopefully for a long time. He threw away a chance to be the very best hitter in baseball. He could have been Ted Williams/Stan Musial great imo but again, I have far less sympathy for him than I do for his daughter and I ask God to soothe her.

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5 hours ago, thebug said:

Really? You forget, it’s also about that young girl. Feel free to continue to make excuses for him. 

 

You seem to think you are the only one with experience in the area. Wrong! 

Absolute arrogance and ignorance in this post. 

I am not a moderator and have no right to tell you what to post. This is clear, right?

 

I think that perhaps you and Augie might be on the same page more than you might think. I have seen his posts for years and like most posters, I  agree with some and disagree with others.  

 

I get the impression that you have lived through you share of hard times. So have I, whereas I have seen more evil and ugliness than most could ever imagine, ever. Augie has lived through some times that I would not wish on my worst enemy. He is not asking for anything but the man deserves some room if you will.

 

Thank you if you will at least consider this.

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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have even more compassion for family members of mentally ill addicts.

 

I know a married couple for more than 50 years. We grew up together. I cannot say enough good things about these two. They are loving, caring, kind, brilliant, spiritual, very successful, wonderful people. They don't even drink, let alone anything else. Their daughter is a heroin addict. She has been clean for 5 years but I saw the toll that it took on these fantastic people. At one point it looked like a matter of time before their daughter (who I love and held as a newborn baby) would OD and die. Everyone is doing GREAT now, but I still sense an uneasiness from the parents. It is just so sad.

 

What Hamilton did to his daughter is inexcusable. He needs to go to jail, hopefully for a long time. He threw away a chance to be the very best hitter in baseball. He could have been Ted Williams/Stan Musial great imo but again, I have far less sympathy for him than I do for his daughter and I ask God to soothe her.

You have misinterpreted my comments on this subject. Nothing I have said suggest that Hamilton shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. The point that Augie and I are making is that mental illness and addiction are complicated issues. Expressing a degree of empathy for a person who has had a lifelong battle with these demons isn't making an argument to excuse his horrific actions.  

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3 hours ago, JohnC said:

You have misinterpreted my comments on this subject. Nothing I have said suggest that Hamilton shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. The point that Augie and I are making is that mental illness and addiction are complicated issues. Expressing a degree of empathy for a person who has had a lifelong battle with these demons isn't making an argument to excuse his horrific actions.  

Sorry John. I did not mean to imply any different.

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3 hours ago, JohnC said:

You have misinterpreted my comments on this subject. Nothing I have said suggest that Hamilton shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. The point that Augie and I are making is that mental illness and addiction are complicated issues. Expressing a degree of empathy for a person who has had a lifelong battle with these demons isn't making an argument to excuse his horrific actions.  

 

Exactly.  Calling the guy an asshat for his actions is appropriate.  Understanding that there are underlying issues, including addiction and mental illness - that are very likely behind his actions -  is also appropriate.

 

The lack of empathy in this country, generally speaking, is very troubling.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

It's one thing to ruin your life and adversely impact the lives of your family members because of your demons.  It's another to beat the ***** out of your kid.

 

Eh, it was just her legs.

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19 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Eh, it was just her legs.

 

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article236857638.html

 



Hamilton threw a full water bottle at his daughter that hit her in the chest, according to the girl’s account contained in an arrest warrant affidavit prepared by a Keller police detective.

 

While yelling and using profanity, Hamilton grabbed the chair where the girl had her feet propped up and pulled it from under her. Hamilton threw the chair and while she was able to mostly dodge it, she was hit her leg, according to the affidavit. The chair broke.

 
 

Hamilton is also accused of grabbing his daughter by the shoulders and pulling her from a chair. She fell to the ground and landed on her hip, which she said left a bruise. Hamilton picked her up from the floor, threw her over his shoulder and carried her to her room, where he hit her in the legs and back, the affidavit said.

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