Buffalo Sabres and NHL: 2019/20: Sabres season officially over. Draft lottery June 26th

[K-9]

Eichel is skating just fine. But whatever it was that prevented him from taking face offs for a couple games has definitely effected his shot. He’s lost his fast ball from the looks of things; no pace on his wrister at all.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Eichel is skating just fine. But whatever it was that prevented him from taking face offs for a couple games has definitely effected his shot. He’s lost his fast ball from the looks of things; no pace on his wrister at all.

 

Yeast Infection?

[K-9]

17 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Yeast Infection?

I might suspect that if it were another player, but Eichel is the last one in that team to come down with that.

[plenzmd1]

 

[Greybeard]

On 3/5/2020 at 8:49 AM, K-9 said:

By refusing to pay ROR’s $7m bonus BEFORE he was traded, TPegs totally destroyed the market for any decent return, so I’d say most of that bad trade can be attributed directly to Sabres ownership as a result.

            I have a hard time believing a guy who has payed out as much as TPegs has for coaches sitting a couch would B word about paying 7M for an asset.  What is that a week at the pumps.

          Teams only have so many assets.  It really doesn't make sense for Pegs or Botts, however I can see Botts not wanting to take cap hit of $7M, as it affects his ability to manage the team payroll.

23 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Don't  get me started on the probity of having a statue downtown of a guy who died driving 110MPH  while on a whisky, lude, amphetimine and lord knows what else concoction, and only by the grace of God somehow did not kill someone else. 

           Probity!!  That's the first time I have ever seen that used in a sentence. +++++

[May Day 10]

So apparently the Sabres are likely going to have cap penalties next season as Dahlin and Jokiharyu are going to get performance kickers this year.

 

 

At least we got Simmonds who 'has experienced games in March' and Frolik sitting there in the press box.  

 

 

Magically, everything will be great next year though because Fantasy Hockey or something.

[K-9]

20 minutes ago, Greybeard said:

            I have a hard time believing a guy who has payed out as much as TPegs has for coaches sitting a couch would B word about paying 7M for an asset.  What is that a week at the pumps.

          Teams only have so many assets.  It really doesn't make sense for Pegs or Botts, however I can see Botts not wanting to take cap hit of $7M, as it affects his ability to manage the team payroll.

Be that as it may, JBotts was in a hurry to get the deal done before ROR’s $7m bonus came due in that July. ROR’s cap hit was gonna come off the books, regardless, after he was dealt, so I don’t see that as a factor at all. For whatever reason, the Sabres didn’t want to pay out $7m for a player that was out the door and that limited the number of potential trade partners.
 

It makes more sense to me that TPegs wondered why he should give a guy $7m for nothing than it does for JBotts to deliberately limit his options. Just because TPegs is made of money and has had to spend a ton on fired coaches, which is strictly a function of a coach’s contract btw, doesn’t mean he isn’t willing to save $7m when he can. 

[shrader]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Be that as it may, JBotts was in a hurry to get the deal done before ROR’s $7m bonus came due in that July. ROR’s cap hit was gonna come off the books, regardless, after he was dealt, so I don’t see that as a factor at all. For whatever reason, the Sabres didn’t want to pay out $7m for a player that was out the door and that limited the number of potential trade partners.
 

It makes more sense to me that TPegs wondered why he should give a guy $7m for nothing than it does for JBotts to deliberately limit his options. Just because TPegs is made of money and has had to spend a ton on fired coaches, which is strictly a function of a coach’s contract btw, doesn’t mean he isn’t willing to save $7m when he can. 

 

And I can definitely see a scenario where a guy doesn't want to be the one to pay the bonus purely out of spite.

 

And that Ristolainen video upthread?  That was hilarious.

[plenzmd1]

22 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

So apparently the Sabres are likely going to have cap penalties next season as Dahlin and Jokiharyu are going to get performance kickers this year.

 

 

At least we got Simmonds who 'has experienced games in March' and Frolik sitting there in the press box.  

 

 

Magically, everything will be great next year though because Fantasy Hockey or something.

I have not listened to the Bots interview on GR from yesterday, but did read some excerpts on Twitter...and its kinda scary on these two points

 

1) Scoring chances and expected goals are subjective...prolly why Risto is still here. Bots sounds like he does not believe in advanced numbers, or they have numbers internally that don't agree with the public numbers. Either way, scary to think this guy only goes by "eye test"

2) Wants to resign Simmonds????Are you kidding me?

 

[May Day 10]

 

The team is restricted by the cap.  All teams are.  There are certain ways to spend money to improve your team that is un-capped, such as picking up that bonus.  I dont get why they do favors for other teams such as absorb Hunwick's contract to do Pittsburgh a favor, but balk at OReilly's bonus.  Either way, its a failure.  Our 'no financial mandates owner' decided to place a critical financial mandate at a poor time.... or the GM made an historically bad move.... or a combination of both.  

Edited March 6, 2020 by May Day 10

[shrader]

36 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I have not listened to the Bots interview on GR from yesterday, but did read some excerpts on Twitter...and its kinda scary on these two points

 

1) Scoring chances and expected goals are subjective...prolly why Risto is still here. Bots sounds like he does not believe in advanced numbers, or they have numbers internally that don't agree with the public numbers. Either way, scary to think this guy only goes by "eye test"

2) Wants to resign Simmonds????Are you kidding me?

 

 

Please listen to the interview.  I don't know whether or not it will give you some clarifications on your two points, but it's definitely better than just basing your opinion on a couple twitter excerpts.

[plenzmd1]

5 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Please listen to the interview.  I don't know whether or not it will give you some clarifications on your two points, but it's definitely better than just basing your opinion on a couple twitter excerpts.

good point, and  why i said have not listened, certainly understand context is important on some these quotes. 

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

So apparently the Sabres are likely going to have cap penalties next season as Dahlin and Jokiharyu are going to get performance kickers this year.

 

 

At least we got Simmonds who 'has experienced games in March' and Frolik sitting there in the press box.  

 

 

Magically, everything will be great next year though because Fantasy Hockey or something.

Would you say they're trending up?

[plenzmd1]

one of the greats has passed

 

For guys of my age, i still see him and the Flower flying up and down the ice...almost mythical with that grey hair of his. 

[Greybeard]

10 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

one of the greats has passed

 

For guys of my age, i still see him and the Flower flying up and down the ice...almost mythical with that grey hair of his. 

              He played in the shadow of his brother and he wasn't that big, but that guy took ***** from no one.  I loved those 60's Hab's teams.

[GG]

Stolen from Sabrespace.  Btw, it's now 48 games and 5 regulation wins!

 

 

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, GG said:

Stolen from Sabrespace.  Btw, it's now 48 games and 5 regulation wins!

 

 

Impressive

[Rockpile233]

I went last night and, as always, thoroughly enjoyed the intermission videos highlighting the 06 run and the bumper ball hockey soccer game.

 

 

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

good point, and  why i said have not listened, certainly understand context is important on some these quotes. 

 

Attached is a link of Paul Hamilton on WGR. This is a 12 minute link. The last part of the segment Paul H. reports that the GM's strategy to rebuild the team still revolves around the "draft and develop" approach as the centerpiece of the upgrading of the roster.  This link is informative as to what the GM's mindset is toward rebuilding the roster. If you only want to listen to a portion of it the 9 min to the end of the segment is the most interesting.  

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-06-paul-hamilton-with-howard-and-jeremy

[K-9]

2 hours ago, GG said:

Stolen from Sabrespace.  Btw, it's now 48 games and 5 regulation wins!

 

 

Ouch. That says a lot more about mentally weak players than it does their talent level. Every year, post all star break when the games get tighter as teams gear up for the stretch and get into playoff mode, this team crumbles. That’s gonna be a lot harder to fix than just by adding new players.