The_Dude Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cory-booker-other-2020-dem-presidential-hopefuls-introduce-federal-marijuana-legalization-bill First, no conservative can make a conservative argument for the government, without congress, arbitrarily making a non-lethal, non-habit forming FLOWER illegal. Second, if republicans don’t do an about-face, and get on the right side of this now, then 2020 will be bad. If my vote comes down to conservative policies and righting a great injustice, my vote and many others will be in jeopardy. The dominos are falling, get right NOW. Edited February 28, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 While I agree with legalization, I think the Dems are mis-calculating here. There are still a lot people who just pass on grass and will be turned off by this. You can't seriously suggest you'd vote for Pocahontas or Cammy over Trump because of weed laws that are mostly ignored anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, KD in CA said: While I agree with legalization, I think the Dems are mis-calculating here. There are still a lot people who just pass on grass and will be turned off by this. You can't seriously suggest you'd vote for Pocahontas or Cammy over Trump because of weed laws that are mostly ignored anyway. Public opinion nationwide is in favor of legalization. Gen Z and millennials overwhelmingly support legalization. I think it’s a huge issue. I’m a warhawk conservative and I’m fed up with the only thing that calms me down being illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, KD in CA said: While I agree with legalization, I think the Dems are mis-calculating here. There are still a lot people who just pass on grass and will be turned off by this. You can't seriously suggest you'd vote for Pocahontas or Cammy over Trump because of weed laws that are mostly ignored anyway. Lots of folks who don't smoke know someone suffering from cancer who does, and swears by it. I don't think this is the end-all-be-all issue for most, but I think it's a mistake to say it couldn't move the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Golden Goat said: Lots of folks who don't smoke know someone suffering from cancer who does, and swears by it. I don't think this is the end-all-be-all issue for most, but I think it's a mistake to say it couldn't move the needle. Yes, but I think you've still got a couple generations of older people (who vote in high numbers) in those battleground states that have never tried it and would be opposed. I still think it's a net negative issue nationwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 I really think that if Trump gets ahead of this, it’ll discourage some from voting against him as much as it will for some to vote for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Like stoners vote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: Like stoners vote... Koko, see my points. And clearly stoners vote. Weed is legal in some way in nearly half the nation. Further, like I said, it’ll encourage some voters (liberal stoners) to not vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: While I agree with legalization, I think the Dems are mis-calculating here. There are still a lot people who just pass on grass and will be turned off by this. You can't seriously suggest you'd vote for Pocahontas or Cammy over Trump because of weed laws that are mostly ignored anyway. Your "Custodian of Western Civilization" in action, ladies and gents. Let's give The_Dude a great big round of applause. Pretty sure the history books will label "I'm voting for the person that lets me get high" as the moment the Great American Experiment failed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Your "Custodian of Western Civilization" in action, ladies and gents. Let's give The_Dude a great big round of applause. Pretty sure the history books will label "I'm voting for the person that lets me get high" as the moment the Great American Experiment failed. Oh man I must have pissed in your Cheerios real good. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 if someone is going to cast their vote solely on the basis of whether or not a candidate is for or against pot, they should not be voting, at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Foxx said: if someone is going to cast their vote solely on the basis of whether or not a candidate is for or against pot, they should not be voting, at all. I’m not saying that’s what I’m going to do, but with all due respect lady, I can’t count the number of doors I’ve kicked in, and the number of combat missions I’ve done for this country. I’m entitled to vote however I see fit, and it’s my opinion that the votes of veterans should count for more than the votes of non-veterans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 you know if you get caught buying that stuff, by law you will no longer be able to indulge your other fetish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, /dev/null said: you know if you get caught buying that stuff, by law you will no longer be able to indulge your other fetish Right....cause i totally comply with gun laws as it is now. BTW, nice gun. OD green, my favorite color. Free floating barrel with an acog. Value of that piece is $2000. Nice gun. Edited March 1, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I’m not saying that’s what I’m going to do, but with all due respect lady, I can’t count the number of doors I’ve kicked in, and the number of combat missions I’ve done for this country. I’m entitled to vote however I see fit, and it’s my opinion that the votes of veterans should count for more than the votes of non-veterans. you got kicked out of the army, didn't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: you got kicked out of the army, didn't you. Fox, I like you, don’t attack my honor or integrity. I did NOT get “kicked out.” I was the perfect soldier. I joined at 18. I was an E5 by 21. I received the highest ratings on my non commissioned officer evaluation reports. I had a colonel come down from battalion and tried to convince me to re-up before I got out, but my mind was made up by then. I was the perfect soldier. Always early. Always smarter. Always professional. And always afraid of ***** up. Fear makes a soldier. My DD214 is perfect. And, after surgery I’m considering a return, not active but to the guard, with a commission. Edited March 1, 2019 by The_Dude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 35 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Fox, I like you, don’t attack my honor or integrity. I did NOT get “kicked out.” I was the perfect soldier. I joined at 18. I was an E5 by 21. I received the highest ratings on my non commissioned officer evaluation reports. I had a colonel come down from battalion and tried to convince me to re-up before I got out, but my mind was made up by then. I was the perfect soldier. Always early. Always smarter. Always professional. And always afraid of ***** up. Fear makes a soldier. My DD214 is perfect. And, after surgery I’m considering a return, not active but to the guard, with a commission. let me guess, addadictomy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, Foxx said: let me guess, addadictomy? Rotator cuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, The_Dude said: I’m not saying that’s what I’m going to do, but with all due respect lady, I can’t count the number of doors I’ve kicked in, and the number of combat missions I’ve done for this country. I’m entitled to vote however I see fit, and it’s my opinion that the votes of veterans should count for more than the votes of non-veterans. Your habit of calling posters here some sort of female designation is insulting to females. While there may be a rare occasion to make fun of someone like Justin Trudeau or Michelle Obama and refer to them as girls, it is over the line to randomly call everyone you disagree with a lady or some type of female. If I was a female I'd kick your ass for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Foxx said: if someone is going to cast their vote solely on the basis of whether or not a candidate is for or against pot, they should not be voting, at all. Really? Why? Freedom says you are wrong. Democracy works because no one can think for everyone else. Let the people decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Really? Why? Freedom says you are wrong. Democracy works because no one can think for everyone else. Let the people decide Don't worry about everyone else, take a small step and start thinking for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Don't worry about everyone else, take a small step and start thinking for yourself. I do. I'm not a Fox news watching, Trump zombie, cultist like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Your habit of calling posters here some sort of female designation is insulting to females. While there may be a rare occasion to make fun of someone like Justin Trudeau or Michelle Obama and refer to them as girls, it is over the line to randomly call everyone you disagree with a lady or some type of female. If I was a female I'd kick your ass for doing so. Youre a man and you can’t kick my ass. You think a drop in testosterone will help? Also, I’m fairly certain Foxx is a ma’am. Edited March 1, 2019 by The_Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 hours ago, The_Dude said: Public opinion nationwide is in favor of legalization. Gen Z and millennials overwhelmingly support legalization. I think it’s a huge issue. I’m a warhawk conservative and I’m fed up with the only thing that calms me down being illegal. Among likely voters? Gen Z and millennials are usually sitting on their couch on Election Day while their disapproving grandparents are voting. And much like the popular vote, it doesn’t matter how many in CA or New England approve of it; only matters in about ten battleground states. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, The_Dude said: ... Also, I’m fairly certain Foxx is a ma’am. you're right, i have been outed. i am a lesbian trapped in a man's body. i am trying out for the Olympics as we speak... Edited March 1, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: you're right, i have been outed. i am a lesbian trapped in a man's body. i am trying out for the Olympics as we speak... Ah. Well, for some reason I thought you were a lady. All apologies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 17 hours ago, The_Dude said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cory-booker-other-2020-dem-presidential-hopefuls-introduce-federal-marijuana-legalization-bill First, no conservative can make a conservative argument for the government, without congress, arbitrarily making a non-lethal, non-habit forming FLOWER illegal. Second, if republicans don’t do an about-face, and get on the right side of this now, then 2020 will be bad. If my vote comes down to conservative policies and righting a great injustice, my vote and many others will be in jeopardy. The dominos are falling, get right NOW. How is society enhanced by legalization of marijuana? Will highway traffic deaths rise? Will law enforcement costs rise? Will use of other more dangerous drugs also rise? Are there health risks for long term use and what will that cost both users and non-users? Will academic and work performance fall? Don't give me the alcohol argument. I'm interested in knowing if legalizing this is a net negative or net positive for our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The resident stoner with anger issues says it's non-lethal and non-habitual? Once again, the biggest argument against legalization is its proponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Youre a man and you can’t kick my ass. You think a drop in testosterone will help? Also, I’m fairly certain Foxx is a ma’am. Well, it evens things out for you a little bit. Gives you a smidgeon of a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: How is society enhanced by legalization of marijuana? Will highway traffic deaths rise? Will law enforcement costs rise? Will use of other more dangerous drugs also rise? Are there health risks for long term use and what will that cost both users and non-users? Will academic and work performance fall? Don't give me the alcohol argument. I'm interested in knowing if legalizing this is a net negative or net positive for our society. Well, let’s make alcohol illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The resident stoner with anger issues says it's non-lethal and non-habitual? Once again, the biggest argument against legalization is its proponents. His birthday Is coming up and I understand he's registered here at Bob's Gun Shop & Paraphernalia: https://www.thrillist.com/vice/gun-shaped-pipes-robert-mickelsen-weapons-of-peace Just a sampling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Well, let’s make alcohol illegal. I think you just made the case against weed legalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I think you just made the case against weed legalization. I think you just made a case against freedom. 51 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The resident stoner with anger issues says it's non-lethal and non-habitual? Once again, the biggest argument against legalization is its proponents. While funny, you’re lackinh in substance. Again. If you’d like to debate the merits, let’s roll. If you’d like to poke fun from behind the safety of your computer screen, I’m not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I think you just made a case against freedom. While funny, you’re lackinh in substance. Again. If you’d like to debate the merits, let’s roll. If you’d like to poke fun from behind the safety of your computer screen, I’m not interested. would you recommend firing a weapon while drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I think you just made a case against freedom. Having weed illegal because it's bad for us (allegedly) is the definition of the nanny state. I love to see these personal responsibility freedom types on here being against it. LOL. I don't like drunks but I don't think alcohol should be illegal. Bottom line is the people want it, it's just the politicians with pockets lined with pharmaceutical and alcohol industry and private prisons money that don't want it. In almost every state they have let the voters decide it's passed. Edited March 1, 2019 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: would you recommend firing a weapon while drinking? Would I recommend it? No. Would I do it? In the right environment, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Would I recommend it? No. Would I do it? In the right environment, yes. so then if extrapolated out, you would fire a weapon while stoned, in the right environment of course. out of curiosity, what is, 'the right environment'? what is the wrong environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: so then if extrapolated out, you would fire a weapon while stoned, in the right environment of course. out of curiosity, what is, 'the right environment'? what is the wrong environment? The right environment would be me, Jack, guns n ammo, and 1000 acres of nothing. Also, have you been high? You know it’s not like you’re halucinating, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Having weed illegal because it's bad for us (allegedly) is the definition of the nanny state. I love to see these personal responsibility freedom types on here being against it. LOL. I don't like drunks but I don't think alcohol should be illegal. Bottom line is the people want it, it's just the politicians with pockets lined with pharmaceutical and alcohol industry and private prisons money that don't want it. In almost every state they have let the voters decide it's passed. actually, the ever expanding nanny-state is running out of revenue sources and making pot legal is just another blatant money grab to line their coffers. do you honestly think they care what the plebs want? Edited March 1, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just a friendly reminder that the use of cannabis plants as mind-altering drugs originates in the Islamic world. By all means, let's start the introduction of Islamic law and culture with legalizing marijuana, right @The_Dude? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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