aristocrat Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Bill Parcells,Bud Grant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Defense CAN win championships...but in todays NFL...it usually doesn't. One or two great defensive performance in the last decade do not prove defense wins championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 And everyone is looking for the next Mcvay... he got schooled big time tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I admit I was wrong about defense not mattering anymore, but Goff was exposed today. He is not a great QB. He is a good QB who can be enhanced by a great coach. He missed a lot of throws today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I feel like if the saints played in this game, they woulda won by 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I feel like people are going to make up a bunch of ***** to try and prop up their theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: I feel like people are going to make up a bunch of ***** to try and prop up their theories. When was the last time a number one offense won the super bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: And everyone is looking for the next Mcvay... he got schooled big time tonight. Belichick made him look like a chump. A complete Stanley Steamer of a coaching job by Mcvay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I admit I was wrong about defense not mattering anymore, but Goff was exposed today. He is not a great QB. He is a good QB who can be enhanced by a great coach. He missed a lot of throws today. I agree to a certain extent. Goff isn’t as bad as he looked tonight. I fully put this 100% on McVay. He was out coached all game. Goff is productive in that scheme, problem is the patriots knew the scheme in and out and mr creative apparently didn’t have anything new to run. We have seen lots of great quarterbacks look like trash when they get hit repeatedly and while Goff isn’t great by any means he never stood a chance. He got blasted all game long. I have watched quite a few ram games this year and that just didn’t look like the same team. Barely no screen passes, all the non stop play actions when everyone in the stadium knew they weren’t gonna run the ball. Did they even have a tight end? Never seen Everett or Higbee that game. Cant check down to the running backs when they’re swallowed up in play action. Just a terrible game plan by mcvay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Defense CAN win championships...but in todays NFL...it usually doesn't. One or two great defensive performance in the last decade do not prove defense wins championships. All the lols 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: When was the last time a number one offense won the super bowl? I'm a defense wins championships kind of guy. I'm also too lazy to check on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Rc2catch said: I agree to a certain extent. Goff isn’t as bad as he looked tonight. I fully put this 100% on McVay. He was out coached all game. Goff is productive in that scheme, problem is the patriots knew the scheme in and out and mr creative apparently didn’t have anything new to run. We have seen lots of great quarterbacks look like trash when they get hit repeatedly and while Goff isn’t great by any means he never stood a chance. He got blasted all game long. I have watched quite a few ram games this year and that just didn’t look like the same team. Barely no screen passes, all the non stop play actions when everyone in the stadium knew they weren’t gonna run the ball. Did they even have a tight end? Never seen Everett or Higbee that game. Cant check down to the running backs when they’re swallowed up in play action. Just a terrible game plan by mcvay True, but man was Cooks open for a loooong time on that end zone pass. That should have been an easy six. I saw Goff late and not there at all on a lot of open receivers. Painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I admit I was wrong about defense not mattering anymore, but Goff was exposed today. He is not a great QB. He is a good QB who can be enhanced by a great coach. He missed a lot of throws today. Tonight was on McVay. 100%. Pure and simple. His gamplan sucked. His play calling sucked. His adjustments sucked. Of anything Goff was held back tonight by a complete coaching bottle job. McVay was like a deer in headlights. He froze. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Defense wins... but why is it never the same defenses, but usually the same offenses? hopefully Allen gets good so fans don’t have to fall back on the “defense” belief to help compesate for never having an offense. hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: Tonight was on McVay. 100%. Pure and simple. His gamplan sucked. His play calling sucked. His adjustments sucked. Of anything Goff was held back tonight by a complete coaching bottle job. McVay was like a deer in headlights. He froze. I agree that McVay got schooled. Belichick just strengthened his argument as more important than Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Tonight was on McVay. 100%. Pure and simple. His gamplan sucked. His play calling sucked. His adjustments sucked. Of anything Goff was held back tonight by a complete coaching bottle job. McVay was like a deer in headlights. He froze. Bb has done it too many times to blame on Mcvay. Did it against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Tonight was on McVay. 100%. Pure and simple. His gamplan sucked. His play calling sucked. His adjustments sucked. Of anything Goff was held back tonight by a complete coaching bottle job. McVay was like a deer in headlights. He froze. Players still play the game. Goff missed an easy 6 and then threw an absolutely horrible INT with the game on the line. McVay wasn't good but Goff sucked. Edited February 4, 2019 by CoudyBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: When was the last time a number one offense won the super bowl? Not sure about that, but I do know the number of points scored to win the last decade of Superbowls was really high...41, 34, 24 ,28, 43, 34, 21, 31, 31, 27. Of those, 7 of those games had offenses that were lead by likely Hall of fame QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Vegetables Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 It seems like it depends on the time of season for defenses to dominate. The refs throw a lot of unnecessary flags in the regular season (especially early weeks) that heavily favors the offense. The playoffs prove to be the opposite, as we’ve seen multiple non-call situations that give the defenses the edge and opportunity to play aggressive. I have no stats to back this up and I’m in favor of letting the players play, just observations from watching games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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